Am I Good or Evil

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Stunt
100 employees?! yikes, no wonder they went out of business.

No factory should be larger than 50 employees for such a specified product.

Bahahahaha :laugh:

This coming from a guy working so fervently on "eliminating" good employees. :roll:

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Stunt
100 employees?! yikes, no wonder they went out of business.

No factory should be larger than 50 employees for such a specified product.

Bahahahaha :laugh:

This coming from a guy working so fervently on "eliminating" good employees. :roll:

If you can make the same or more with less these employees become non-value added and therefore disposable.

If a company continues to reduce costs, there's no reason for it to go out of business. Even with the opening of the Chinese markets. There's so much capital involved in closing shop, constructing in Asia, training new workers, storing inventories for shipment, shipping cost, spoilage rates, domestic warehousing, distrobution centres, insanely huge lead times and product flexibility...it's really quite astounding our companies cannot compete.

 

[yllus]

Business is not inherently good or evil. It is business, and its purpose is to maximize profit. That is accomplished in every single way possible. That's all there is to it.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Originally posted by: yllus
Business is not inherently good or evil. It is business, and its purpose is to maximize profit. That is accomplished in every single way possible. That's all there is to it.

 

[chambersc]

OP is good in my book. Capitalism is the way to go.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Stunt
100 employees?! yikes, no wonder they went out of business.

No factory should be larger than 50 employees for such a specified product.

Bahahahaha :laugh:

This coming from a guy working so fervently on "eliminating" good employees. :roll:

If you can make the same or more with less these employees become non-value added and therefore disposable.

If a company continues to reduce costs, there's no reason for it to go out of business. Even with the opening of the Chinese markets. There's so much capital involved in closing shop, constructing in Asia, training new workers, storing inventories for shipment, shipping cost, spoilage rates, domestic warehousing, distrobution centres, insanely huge lead times and product flexibility...

it's really quite astounding our companies cannot compete.

Then stop treating employees like they are pieces of meat and start treating them for what they really are, the heart of a Company and the Country.

 

[SampSon]

You're most likely not worth what they are paying you.
Evil is subjective.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Stunt
100 employees?! yikes, no wonder they went out of business.

No factory should be larger than 50 employees for such a specified product.

Bahahahaha :laugh:

This coming from a guy working so fervently on "eliminating" good employees. :roll:

If you can make the same or more with less these employees become non-value added and therefore disposable.

If a company continues to reduce costs, there's no reason for it to go out of business. Even with the opening of the Chinese markets. There's so much capital involved in closing shop, constructing in Asia, training new workers, storing inventories for shipment, shipping cost, spoilage rates, domestic warehousing, distrobution centres, insanely huge lead times and product flexibility...

it's really quite astounding our companies cannot compete.

Then stop treating employees like they are pieces of meat and start treating them for what they really are, the heart of a Company and the Country.

Lets say you decide to build a house. You have the option of hiring a team of 20 carpenters who each use a hammer, or you can hire a team of 5 guys with nail guns and get the same job done in less time, for cheaper.

You would opt for the team of 20? Why not hire 100 people with rocks instead of hammers?
Improving efficiency is how humans survive and progress; I don't know how you can complain about companies going under AND complain about reduced labour content.

When you go shopping, do you look for the most expensive products with the most labour input?

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: SampSon
You're most likely not worth what they are paying you.
Evil is subjective.

How do you figure that?

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Stunt
100 employees?! yikes, no wonder they went out of business.

No factory should be larger than 50 employees for such a specified product.

Bahahahaha :laugh:

This coming from a guy working so fervently on "eliminating" good employees. :roll:

If you can make the same or more with less these employees become non-value added and therefore disposable.

If a company continues to reduce costs, there's no reason for it to go out of business. Even with the opening of the Chinese markets. There's so much capital involved in closing shop, constructing in Asia, training new workers, storing inventories for shipment, shipping cost, spoilage rates, domestic warehousing, distrobution centres, insanely huge lead times and product flexibility...

it's really quite astounding our companies cannot compete.

Then stop treating employees like they are pieces of meat and start treating them for what they really are, the heart of a Company and the Country.

Lets say you decide to build a house. You have the option of hiring a team of 20 carpenters who each use a hammer, or you can hire a team of 5 guys with nail guns and get the same job done in less time, for cheaper.

You would opt for the team of 20? Why not hire 100 people with rocks instead of hammers?
Improving efficiency is how humans survive and progress; I don't know how you can complain about companies going under AND complain about reduced labour content.

When you go shopping, do you look for the most expensive products with the most labour input?

Don't fault Dmmcowen for being stuck in the old mindset. He cannot succeed through his business logic -- it's social darwinism.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: Howard
Business is business. Don't let dmcowen tell you otherwise.

Businesses should do whatever possible to make money as long as it is legal.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Howard
Business is business. Don't let dmcowen tell you otherwise.

Businesses should do whatever possible to make money as long as it is legal.

That's how we have it now it's just that we have to constantly update what "legal" actions are and aren't.

BTW, I agree 100% with you.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Howard
Business is business. Don't let dmcowen tell you otherwise.

Businesses should do whatever possible to make money as long as it is legal.

Originally posted by: Stunt
Lets say you decide to build a house. You have the option of hiring a team of 20 carpenters who each use a hammer, or you can hire a team of 5 guys with nail guns and get the same job done in less time, for cheaper.

You would opt for the team of 20? Why not hire 100 people with rocks instead of hammers?
Improving efficiency is how humans survive and progress; I don't know how you can complain about companies going under AND complain about reduced labour content.

When you go shopping, do you look for the most expensive products with the most labour input?

Finish the story.

Of course I'd hire the 5 Americans with nail guns but today's businesses hire 5 illegals.

I'm sure you would support that.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Howard
Business is business. Don't let dmcowen tell you otherwise.

Businesses should do whatever possible to make money as long as it is legal.

Originally posted by: Stunt
Lets say you decide to build a house. You have the option of hiring a team of 20 carpenters who each use a hammer, or you can hire a team of 5 guys with nail guns and get the same job done in less time, for cheaper.

You would opt for the team of 20? Why not hire 100 people with rocks instead of hammers?
Improving efficiency is how humans survive and progress; I don't know how you can complain about companies going under AND complain about reduced labour content.

When you go shopping, do you look for the most expensive products with the most labour input?

Finish the story.

Of course I'd hire the 5 Americans with nail guns but today's businesses hire 5 illegals.

I'm sure you would support that.

It's progress. I'd use it 'till it was made illegal. How nice of you to change the debate once you're wrong.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Howard
Business is business. Don't let dmcowen tell you otherwise.

Businesses should do whatever possible to make money as long as it is legal.

Originally posted by: Stunt
Lets say you decide to build a house. You have the option of hiring a team of 20 carpenters who each use a hammer, or you can hire a team of 5 guys with nail guns and get the same job done in less time, for cheaper.

You would opt for the team of 20? Why not hire 100 people with rocks instead of hammers?
Improving efficiency is how humans survive and progress; I don't know how you can complain about companies going under AND complain about reduced labour content.

When you go shopping, do you look for the most expensive products with the most labour input?

Finish the story.

Of course I'd hire the 5 Americans with nail guns but today's businesses hire 5 illegals.

I'm sure you would support that.

It's progress. I'd use it 'till it was made illegal. How nice of you to change the debate once you're wrong.

How nice of you to admit in public how you hate America.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Howard
Business is business. Don't let dmcowen tell you otherwise.

Businesses should do whatever possible to make money as long as it is legal.

Originally posted by: Stunt
Lets say you decide to build a house. You have the option of hiring a team of 20 carpenters who each use a hammer, or you can hire a team of 5 guys with nail guns and get the same job done in less time, for cheaper.

You would opt for the team of 20? Why not hire 100 people with rocks instead of hammers?
Improving efficiency is how humans survive and progress; I don't know how you can complain about companies going under AND complain about reduced labour content.

When you go shopping, do you look for the most expensive products with the most labour input?

Finish the story.

Of course I'd hire the 5 Americans with nail guns but today's businesses hire 5 illegals.

I'm sure you would support that.

It's progress. I'd use it 'till it was made illegal. How nice of you to change the debate once you're wrong.

How nice of you to admit in public how you hate America.

You're one grumpy old man. I LOVE your logical fallacies. I suggest that you take a look at American History -- we are how we are through exploitation and oppression.