Originally posted by: Quintox
I love it
Did he do something a little 'illegal' by pretending he was someone else?
Originally posted by: Aflac
Stung by a scathing job reference, a South Jersey man filed a federal law suit last week claiming that Best Buy, his former employer, blackballed him.
I don't know if I've ever heard this term used.
Originally posted by: Mwilding
I find it hard to believe that any sort of HR professional would be that stupid.
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Mwilding
I find it hard to believe that any sort of HR professional would be that stupid.
you have never met a "HR professional" have you
Many - I am no fan of HR people, but they tend towards risk averse.
Pretty idiotic to generalize about the whole of HR. We save corporations tons of money, help people get jobs, mediate workplace conflicts, do your payroll, etc. And at the end of the day, we are regular people.
Edit: Seems the HR bashing has already begun...
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Mwilding
I find it hard to believe that any sort of HR professional would be that stupid.
You haven't worked with many HR Managers, have you.
The most an HR person can say when asked for a candidate reference is factual data relating to the candidate. An example might be, "Candidate worked for our company as job title from xx/xx/xxxx to xx/xx/xxxx and was voluntarily/involuntarily terminated due to X". They can also give examples from past performance reviews (e.g. "very strong technical background but has opportunities for grown with communication"), but it has to be related to facts.
The way the Best Buy woman phrased the E-mail is a definite no-no and she's probably going to lose her job over this.
ZV
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Mwilding
I find it hard to believe that any sort of HR professional would be that stupid.
you have never met a "HR professional" have you
Many - I am no fan of HR people, but they tend towards risk averse.
Pretty idiotic to generalize about the whole of HR. We save corporations tons of money, help people get jobs, mediate workplace conflicts, do your payroll, etc. And at the end of the day, we are regular people.
Edit: Seems the HR bashing has already begun...
I'm confused by both of your responses... I think Mwilding's point is exactly what Zenmervolt is saying - what HR person would be so stupid as to take the risk of giving negative information about a former employee?
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I was referring to his "I am no fan of HR people" comment with my post. My edit was made towards others in this thread.
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I was referring to his "I am no fan of HR people" comment with my post. My edit was made towards others in this thread.
Yeah, I don't get your "you have never met a "HR professional" have you?" comment (and ZV's similar comment). I agree with his point - every HR person I've ever dealt with is very "by the book." That's a major component of their job - to make sure everything happens by the book (which I believe is what you were referring to when you mentioned that they save companies a lot of money). So it's surprising to me that a district HR manager would do something that is so NOT "by the book," and over e-mail no less.
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Mwilding
I find it hard to believe that any sort of HR professional would be that stupid.
You haven't worked with many HR Managers, have you.
The most an HR person can say when asked for a candidate reference is factual data relating to the candidate. An example might be, "Candidate worked for our company as job title from xx/xx/xxxx to xx/xx/xxxx and was voluntarily/involuntarily terminated due to X". They can also give examples from past performance reviews (e.g. "very strong technical background but has opportunities for grown with communication"), but it has to be related to facts.
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I was referring to his "I am no fan of HR people" comment with my post. My edit was made towards others in this thread.
Yeah, I don't get your "you have never met a "HR professional" have you?" comment (and ZV's similar comment). I agree with his point - every HR person I've ever dealt with is very "by the book." That's a major component of their job - to make sure everything happens by the book (which I believe is what you were referring to when you mentioned that they save companies a lot of money). So it's surprising to me that a district HR manager would do something that is so NOT "by the book," and over e-mail no less.
? I never said "you have never met a 'HR professional' have you?" I think you're talking to the wrong poster.
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I was referring to his "I am no fan of HR people" comment with my post. My edit was made towards others in this thread.
Yeah, I don't get your "you have never met a "HR professional" have you?" comment (and ZV's similar comment). I agree with his point - every HR person I've ever dealt with is very "by the book." That's a major component of their job - to make sure everything happens by the book (which I believe is what you were referring to when you mentioned that they save companies a lot of money). So it's surprising to me that a district HR manager would do something that is so NOT "by the book," and over e-mail no less.
? I never said "you have never met a 'HR professional' have you?" I think you're talking to the wrong poster.
Oh shoot.