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Alright, new P4 rig

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hellfreeze

Golden Member
So I've been hired on another mission to build a rig. This time, it needs to be a bit higher grade to last 4-5 years (general internet browsing). Please tell me what you guys think.

Intel Pentium 4/ 3.0E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - Retail

Geil Value Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-148-032&amp;depa=1">
Seagate 200GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model ST3200822A, OEM</a>

ANTEC Black Performance Series II SOHO File Server Tower ATX Case with 400W Power Supply, Model "SX1040BII"

Now I'm not sure as to the mobo. I'm looking at the following. What do you guys recommend?

Intel "D865GBFL" i865G Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL

MSI "865G NEO2-PLS" i865G Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAI

Thanks for the help. I'm looking foward to not upgrading this rig for a few years (might add video card and stuff later on, but yeah)
 
You'll have to wait for a response from someone with experience with the 865Gs overclocking capabilities and/or that board in particular so^
 
Originally posted by: Solitude
Hey DaPunisher,

According to toms, MSI NeoV2 Platinum, http://www6.tomshardware.com/m...rd/20030707/index.html, has ownage on all the boards of 865PE/875 but u have to shell the $$$ for it. Is it worth it?
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I can't say as I haven't used any of the latest Intel chipsets. I tend to take Tom's with a grain of salt anymore so my suggestion is start a new topic asking for advice as to which 865/875P Chipset based boards everyone is having great results with 🙂 You should first use the search function though as there are doubtless recent threads on the topic 😉
 
The ASUS P4C800 offers good performance for socket 478 processors with the i875 chipset. It overclocks quite well to boot.

I personally have the ASUS P4P800-E with the i865 chipset. They're basically the same, except for the chipset. The P4P800 is a cheaper solution with the older chipset, whereas the P4C800 is the more expensive of the two with the newer of the two chipsets.

Either one will suit you just fine. As for the MSI board, I'm not sure. You'll have to get advice from someone who owns one. I've never dealt with MSI. Good luck!
 
Originally posted by: Travis6586
The ASUS P4C800 offers good performance for socket 478 processors with the i875 chipset. It overclocks quite well to boot.

I personally have the ASUS P4P800-E with the i865 chipset. They're basically the same, except for the chipset. The P4P800 is a cheaper solution with the older chipset, whereas the P4C800 is the more expensive of the two with the newer of the two chipsets.

Either one will suit you just fine. As for the MSI board, I'm not sure. You'll have to get advice from someone who owns one. I've never dealt with MSI. Good luck!
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i was actually looking at the ASUS. i have one at home and it pwns...considering it's like 2-3 years old (i've got an old p4 1.6ghz. but it still pwns)
 
If you want 4-5 years, I doubt intel is the way to go. I'd buy a 3000+ 939 and a board for it, then overclock to 3800+ speeds.
 
I would never buy MSI. Both my boards had serious issues. Here's the board you intend to buy cathing fire http://forums.anandtech.com/me...7&amp;threadid=1368419

Nope, Abit, Asus and DFI is where it's at....check out the reviews for IS7 cheap and probably one of the best clocker boards ever.

Oh and get the C pentium... faster, cooler, and uses less power clock for clock... and will clock the same on air.
 
I enjoy overclocking with my msi 865pe neo2 LS (about $80 on pricewatch). It has a northbride fan, which isn't noisy, like some. It has a host of overclocking settings in the bios. Only negatives are lack of raid, and onboard firewire. I'm running my 2.8c at 3640 (260 fsb) with a sparkle 300w power supply. I suggest this board with a 9200se (about $35 at newegg). I use a 9600se celistica ($60), and it's the first ati card I've used that has fast writes enabled and agp 8x with directx 9 support. It may require a bios flash to run a prescott. I've flashed mine twice using the live update msi program with windows running, and it worked great. I strongly suggest a "c" p4 anyway if you're serious about overclocking. Prescott's tend to run warmer. I use a stock Intel copper heatsink with mine, and also recommend a zalman "fan mate 1" to reduce the fan rpms to 2500 at idle. I hate noise.
 
Originally posted by: o1die
I enjoy overclocking with my msi 865pe neo2 LS (about $80 on pricewatch). It has a northbride fan, which isn't noisy, like some. It has a host of overclocking settings in the bios. Only negatives are lack of raid, and onboard firewire. I'm running my 2.8c at 3640 (260 fsb) with a sparkle 300w power supply. I suggest this board with a 9200se (about $35 at newegg). I use a 9600se celistica ($60), and it's the first ati card I've used that has fast writes enabled and agp 8x with directx 9 support. It may require a bios flash to run a prescott. I've flashed mine twice using the live update msi program with windows running, and it worked great. I strongly suggest a "c" p4 anyway if you're serious about overclocking. Prescott's tend to run warmer. I use a stock Intel copper heatsink with mine, and also recommend a zalman "fan mate 1" to reduce the fan rpms to 2500 at idle. I hate noise.
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You used the fanmate off of a Zalman HSF on a Intel hsf?? Thanks for the idea gotta try that I have my fanmate just lying around collecting dust might as well put it to good use.
 
Originally posted by: shady06
are we ever going to see an intel rig thread without someone recommending A64???
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Ya that was pretty stupid for a "(general internet browsing)" rig. I would have said a duron for $44 with a Biostar mobo with mx4 graphics for $55😉😛
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: shady06
are we ever going to see an intel rig thread without someone recommending A64???
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Ya that was pretty stupid for a "(general internet browsing)" rig. I would have said a duron for $44 with a Biostar mobo with mx4 graphics for $55😉😛
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Yeah but that's why you rock :beer: You can save people almost as much money as hot deals *if they listen* 🙂

 
😉 you too big boy😛

Seriously, no reason to buy this top of line gear for anyone that's not doing serious video work... weather that be gaming, encoding, rendering, CADing. I type my tripe, do my taxes, papers etc, on a athlon @1100mhz and it's lighting fast for those things....cheap..cool and silent too.

Edit: at work my P500 was just replaced with a P2.6...can't atell a lick of difference (unless I'm playing farcry which I should'nt be anyway)
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: shady06
are we ever going to see an intel rig thread without someone recommending A64???
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Ya that was pretty stupid for a "(general internet browsing)" rig. I would have said a duron for $44 with a Biostar mobo with mx4 graphics for $55😉😛
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Yeah but that's why you rock :beer: You can save people almost as much money as hot deals *if they listen* 🙂
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Which is the problem...most people don't. 😕

If you're set on going Intel and want to overclock...I strongly suggest the Abit AI7. It has the 865 chipset, but I've seen some great fsb overclocks with it. It's also pretty cheap compared to the IC7 and P4C. It's probably one of the cheapest boards I know of that does 3.2 vdimm. 😉
 
The 865G chipset boards typically don't overclock well because they usually have few, if any overclocking features. I got one of the MSI 865G board (mATX version) for my GF's computer and it just would not stay stable even under a mild overclock with a known good CPU.

Suggestions for hellfreeze, if the buyer has cash to burn, get the CPU you listed on the Intel board. Here are the reasons:

1) For it to "last 4-5 years" you'll want to NOT overclock it and have it run as stable as possible.

2) For "general internet browsing" just about anything works, be it P4, Celeron, A64 or Sempron. So, why not an Intel P4. The person paying you for the build may not know much about components, but an "Intel Pentium 4" should be an easy sell. Also, if the unthinkable happens and the system has problems, you can't be faulted (as easily) on your component choice.

3) The typical "general internet browsing" computer seems to collect tons of programs that run at startup. QTTask, RealTray, AOLTray, AIM, MSN Messenger, YPager, WebShots, WeatherBug, etc. I think in these cases hyperthreading would be of benefit to keep the machine running smoother.
 
Originally posted by: hellfreeze
hehe. sorry to break it to you guys, but i ended up going with the athlon 64

*teehee* 🙂
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What? You're asking these simpleton questions about processors and mobos been around for over a year but then ventured into the confusing realm of A64 with a myrid of chipsets, socket types, and confusing PR ratings w/o even starting one thread about it?
hmmm...Hasty choice but the right one😉


 
Originally posted by: Zap
The 865G chipset boards typically don't overclock well because they usually have few, if any overclocking features. I got one of the MSI 865G board (mATX version) for my GF's computer and it just would not stay stable even under a mild overclock with a known good CPU.

Suggestions for hellfreeze, if the buyer has cash to burn, get the CPU you listed on the Intel board. Here are the reasons:

1) For it to "last 4-5 years" you'll want to NOT overclock it and have it run as stable as possible.

2) For "general internet browsing" just about anything works, be it P4, Celeron, A64 or Sempron. So, why not an Intel P4. The person paying you for the build may not know much about components, but an "Intel Pentium 4" should be an easy sell. Also, if the unthinkable happens and the system has problems, you can't be faulted (as easily) on your component choice.

3) The typical "general internet browsing" computer seems to collect tons of programs that run at startup. QTTask, RealTray, AOLTray, AIM, MSN Messenger, YPager, WebShots, WeatherBug, etc. I think in these cases hyperthreading would be of benefit to keep the machine running smoother.
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thank you
 
*sigh*

so the order has been placed. here's what i got...not that anyone really cares. lol

Intel Pentium 4/ 3.0C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512KB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - Retail

ABIT "AI7" i865PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL

Crucial 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 8T - OEM

Western Digital 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD800JD, OEM Drive Only

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=27-152-032&amp;depa=1">
NEC 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Drive, Black, Model ND-3500A BK, OEM</a>

Lite-On 52X32X52 Internal EIDE CD-RW Drive Black, Model SOHR-5238S Black, OEM

Samsung Black 1.44MB 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive, Model SFD321B/LBL1, OEM Drive Only

And last, but not least, the case...

ANTEC Black Performance Series II SOHO File Server Tower ATX Case with 400W Power Supply, Model "SX1040BII"

*Sigh*

Almost makes me want to give the person my P4 1.6 ghz with 256 RAM and hope they don't notice a diff 🙂

Thanks for the help everyone. I'll be sure to let you all know how the rig goes 🙂
 
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