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Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?

Because they do it over and over and over and eventually, you run out of words... and the respect of common folks.

Look at the amount of ridicule the term "African-American" gets.

How many words are Asians going to go through before they reach that point? Who knows. The point is, words can only hurt you if you let them.
i always saw changes in the terms representing a culture moving on and making strides in becoming socially accepted by the general public. moving from oriental to asian or asian american helps people rid the perpetual foreigner tag and just be part of the population.
The "general public"? The general public of what? In china the "general public" is of asian descent. In africa the "general public" is of negro descent. So is YOUR view of the "general public" in the world, white anglo saxon? That view is the pure embodiment of "racism". You may want to examine that and change your angle.

Just changing the terminology hardly represents the progression of a culture. It only represents the "general public's" urge to feel politically correct. Truly just putting a candy coating over a base of sh!t.
 
respek da mighty AZN iight

"The "general public"? The general public of what? In china the "general public" is of asian descent. In africa the "general public" is of negro descent. So is YOUR view of the "general public" in the world, white anglo saxon? That view is the pure embodiment of "racism". You may want to examine that and change your angle. "

Actually no, that's just ignorance and not racism. It's what happens when you live under a rock.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?

Because they do it over and over and over and eventually, you run out of words... and the respect of common folks.

Look at the amount of ridicule the term "African-American" gets.

How many words are Asians going to go through before they reach that point? Who knows. The point is, words can only hurt you if you let them.
i always saw changes in the terms representing a culture moving on and making strides in becoming socially accepted by the general public. moving from oriental to asian or asian american helps people rid the perpetual foreigner tag and just be part of the population.
The "general public"? The general public of what? In china the "general public" is of asian descent. In africa the "general public" is of negro descent. So is YOUR view of the "general public" in the world, white anglo saxon? That view is the pure embodiment of "racism". You may want to examine that and change your angle.

Just changing the terminology hardly represents the progression of a culture. It only represents the "general public's" urge to feel politically correct. Truly just putting a candy coating over a base of sh!t.
Well I guess i'm mainly speaking about the general American public, mix of all sorts of different cultures. Thought that's what we were talking about all along.

And its not just the terminology. I'm not saying it represents the whole movement. Maybe a better term would be symbolizes.

 
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?

Because they do it over and over and over and eventually, you run out of words... and the respect of common folks.

Look at the amount of ridicule the term "African-American" gets.

How many words are Asians going to go through before they reach that point? Who knows. The point is, words can only hurt you if you let them.
i always saw changes in the terms representing a culture moving on and making strides in becoming socially accepted by the general public. moving from oriental to asian or asian american helps people rid the perpetual foreigner tag and just be part of the population.
The "general public"? The general public of what? In china the "general public" is of asian descent. In africa the "general public" is of negro descent. So is YOUR view of the "general public" in the world, white anglo saxon? That view is the pure embodiment of "racism". You may want to examine that and change your angle.

Just changing the terminology hardly represents the progression of a culture. It only represents the "general public's" urge to feel politically correct. Truly just putting a candy coating over a base of sh!t.
Well I guess i'm mainly speaking about the general American public, mix of all sorts of different cultures. Thought that's what we were talking about all along.

And its not just the terminology. I'm not saying it represents the whole movement. Maybe a better term would be symbolizes.
The american public represents a minority in the world population. Why would the american view be more important than the rest of the worlds? It seems you have a very narrow view of race and race relations.
So if it's a mix of all different cultures, does that not say that all cultures are largely racist, even when combined?

Words hardly symbolize a movement. A movement is symbolized and quantified by its actions.
 
I don't find Oriental offensive.

beloved patriot, I can find offensive.

I can use oriental to descrbe myself. Usually when I think oriental, I think Chinese more often than not..

Asians can include a broad peoples, Chinese, Indians, Laotians, Filipinos, Thais, Koreans, Japanese, Taiwanese, etc. Pretty much anyone from the continent Asia except for a few which are visibly distinct and could be attributed as Caucasians (Russians, for example)

Anyway, this is how I feel, so if you don't agree... <(^)> to ya. 😛 Everyone has their own way and you can't convince them all.

 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?

Because they do it over and over and over and eventually, you run out of words... and the respect of common folks.

Look at the amount of ridicule the term "African-American" gets.

How many words are Asians going to go through before they reach that point? Who knows. The point is, words can only hurt you if you let them.
i always saw changes in the terms representing a culture moving on and making strides in becoming socially accepted by the general public. moving from oriental to asian or asian american helps people rid the perpetual foreigner tag and just be part of the population.
The "general public"? The general public of what? In china the "general public" is of asian descent. In africa the "general public" is of negro descent. So is YOUR view of the "general public" in the world, white anglo saxon? That view is the pure embodiment of "racism". You may want to examine that and change your angle.

Just changing the terminology hardly represents the progression of a culture. It only represents the "general public's" urge to feel politically correct. Truly just putting a candy coating over a base of sh!t.
Well I guess i'm mainly speaking about the general American public, mix of all sorts of different cultures. Thought that's what we were talking about all along.

And its not just the terminology. I'm not saying it represents the whole movement. Maybe a better term would be symbolizes.
The american public represents a minority in the world population. Why would the american view be more important than the rest of the worlds? It seems you have a very narrow view of race and race relations.
So if it's a mix of all different cultures, does that not say that all cultures are largely racist, even when combined?

Words hardly symbolize a movement. A movement is symbolized and quantified by its actions.
Well before you take on the world, you have to look at what's going on close to home.
 
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