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was wrong with being racer? I love being racer!
The "general public"? The general public of what? In china the "general public" is of asian descent. In africa the "general public" is of negro descent. So is YOUR view of the "general public" in the world, white anglo saxon? That view is the pure embodiment of "racism". You may want to examine that and change your angle.Originally posted by: sleepmachine
i always saw changes in the terms representing a culture moving on and making strides in becoming socially accepted by the general public. moving from oriental to asian or asian american helps people rid the perpetual foreigner tag and just be part of the population.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.
Crap.
The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.
Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
Because they do it over and over and over and eventually, you run out of words... and the respect of common folks.
Look at the amount of ridicule the term "African-American" gets.
How many words are Asians going to go through before they reach that point? Who knows. The point is, words can only hurt you if you let them.
Well I guess i'm mainly speaking about the general American public, mix of all sorts of different cultures. Thought that's what we were talking about all along.Originally posted by: SampSon
The "general public"? The general public of what? In china the "general public" is of asian descent. In africa the "general public" is of negro descent. So is YOUR view of the "general public" in the world, white anglo saxon? That view is the pure embodiment of "racism". You may want to examine that and change your angle.Originally posted by: sleepmachine
i always saw changes in the terms representing a culture moving on and making strides in becoming socially accepted by the general public. moving from oriental to asian or asian american helps people rid the perpetual foreigner tag and just be part of the population.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.
Crap.
The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.
Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
Because they do it over and over and over and eventually, you run out of words... and the respect of common folks.
Look at the amount of ridicule the term "African-American" gets.
How many words are Asians going to go through before they reach that point? Who knows. The point is, words can only hurt you if you let them.
Just changing the terminology hardly represents the progression of a culture. It only represents the "general public's" urge to feel politically correct. Truly just putting a candy coating over a base of sh!t.
The american public represents a minority in the world population. Why would the american view be more important than the rest of the worlds? It seems you have a very narrow view of race and race relations.Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Well I guess i'm mainly speaking about the general American public, mix of all sorts of different cultures. Thought that's what we were talking about all along.Originally posted by: SampSon
The "general public"? The general public of what? In china the "general public" is of asian descent. In africa the "general public" is of negro descent. So is YOUR view of the "general public" in the world, white anglo saxon? That view is the pure embodiment of "racism". You may want to examine that and change your angle.Originally posted by: sleepmachine
i always saw changes in the terms representing a culture moving on and making strides in becoming socially accepted by the general public. moving from oriental to asian or asian american helps people rid the perpetual foreigner tag and just be part of the population.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.
Crap.
The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.
Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
Because they do it over and over and over and eventually, you run out of words... and the respect of common folks.
Look at the amount of ridicule the term "African-American" gets.
How many words are Asians going to go through before they reach that point? Who knows. The point is, words can only hurt you if you let them.
Just changing the terminology hardly represents the progression of a culture. It only represents the "general public's" urge to feel politically correct. Truly just putting a candy coating over a base of sh!t.
And its not just the terminology. I'm not saying it represents the whole movement. Maybe a better term would be symbolizes.
Well before you take on the world, you have to look at what's going on close to home.Originally posted by: SampSon
The american public represents a minority in the world population. Why would the american view be more important than the rest of the worlds? It seems you have a very narrow view of race and race relations.Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Well I guess i'm mainly speaking about the general American public, mix of all sorts of different cultures. Thought that's what we were talking about all along.Originally posted by: SampSon
The "general public"? The general public of what? In china the "general public" is of asian descent. In africa the "general public" is of negro descent. So is YOUR view of the "general public" in the world, white anglo saxon? That view is the pure embodiment of "racism". You may want to examine that and change your angle.Originally posted by: sleepmachine
i always saw changes in the terms representing a culture moving on and making strides in becoming socially accepted by the general public. moving from oriental to asian or asian american helps people rid the perpetual foreigner tag and just be part of the population.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.
Crap.
The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.
Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
Because they do it over and over and over and eventually, you run out of words... and the respect of common folks.
Look at the amount of ridicule the term "African-American" gets.
How many words are Asians going to go through before they reach that point? Who knows. The point is, words can only hurt you if you let them.
Just changing the terminology hardly represents the progression of a culture. It only represents the "general public's" urge to feel politically correct. Truly just putting a candy coating over a base of sh!t.
And its not just the terminology. I'm not saying it represents the whole movement. Maybe a better term would be symbolizes.
So if it's a mix of all different cultures, does that not say that all cultures are largely racist, even when combined?
Words hardly symbolize a movement. A movement is symbolized and quantified by its actions.