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Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.
 
Originally posted by: ironcrotch
Okay? You buy Oriental Rugs, Oriental Art and people come from ASIA~~~!!~~!~!~~! The Orient refers to things not a place!!! If you are of ASIAN decent from ASIA, then you are ASIAN. The idea that you can refer to yourself as oriental boggless my mind.. GAHHH!!!

so let me guess, you're Oriental?
 
Hi, I'm a beloved patriot. Well not technically, since I'm not Chinese, but I don't discriminate when I'm discriminating. :thumbsup:😀
 
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?
 
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?

Because they do it over and over and over and eventually, you run out of words... and the respect of common folks.

Look at the amount of ridicule the term "African-American" gets.

How many words are Asians going to go through before they reach that point? Who knows. The point is, words can only hurt you if you let them.
 
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?
What if I want to separate myself from the negative connotations of any derogatory words?
The race card is a moot point.

 
What is wrong with oriental? Nothing. I am oriental. Asian is to broad a term, it can be a blond hair blue eyed Russian or it could be someone from India. If you do not like the term oriental then that is your problem.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?
What if I want to separate myself from the negative connotations of any derogatory words?
The race card is a moot point.
then by all means, do so. what's stopping you?

as for the race card, i agree it's used unnecessarily often but sometimes there's just no denying the fact that alot of people will always have a problem with race.
 
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?
What if I want to separate myself from the negative connotations of any derogatory words?
The race card is a moot point.
then by all means, do so. what's stopping you?

as for the race card, i agree it's used unnecessarily often but sometimes there's just no denying the fact that alot of people will always have a problem with race.
Ok, so what is the problem then?
 
Originally posted by: ironcrotch
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: ironcrotch
You guys just dont understand it! Of course it refers to the People and the Countries, but you aren't from the ORIENT. Its like saying "Hi, i'm Western Hemispherean"

Which would be correct, no?

It would be correct, but you look like a moron by saying so. It seems that it would be more appropriate to say, I'm North American, or American, etc.

That is a region, much like the orient no?
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?
What if I want to separate myself from the negative connotations of any derogatory words?
The race card is a moot point.
then by all means, do so. what's stopping you?

as for the race card, i agree it's used unnecessarily often but sometimes there's just no denying the fact that alot of people will always have a problem with race.
Ok, so what is the problem then?
problem is, some people just can't accept changes.
 
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?
What if I want to separate myself from the negative connotations of any derogatory words?
The race card is a moot point.
then by all means, do so. what's stopping you?

as for the race card, i agree it's used unnecessarily often but sometimes there's just no denying the fact that alot of people will always have a problem with race.
Ok, so what is the problem then?
problem is, some people just can't accept changes.
What are the changes? Racism has always existed, and will always exist.

 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?

Because they do it over and over and over and eventually, you run out of words... and the respect of common folks.

Look at the amount of ridicule the term "African-American" gets.

How many words are Asians going to go through before they reach that point? Who knows. The point is, words can only hurt you if you let them.
i always saw changes in the terms representing a culture moving on and making strides in becoming socially accepted by the general public. moving from oriental to asian or asian american helps people rid the perpetual foreigner tag and just be part of the population.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?
What if I want to separate myself from the negative connotations of any derogatory words?
The race card is a moot point.
then by all means, do so. what's stopping you?

as for the race card, i agree it's used unnecessarily often but sometimes there's just no denying the fact that alot of people will always have a problem with race.
Ok, so what is the problem then?
problem is, some people just can't accept changes.
What are the changes? Racism has always existed, and will always exist.
that doesn't mean we shouldn't give up fighting against it.
 
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
that doesn't mean we shouldn't give up fighting against it.
That's right, you should fight against it. Trying to get people to stop using a word IS NOT FIGHTING AGAINST RACISM. Instead it probably furthers racism by creating more ammo of words that will offend the opposite group. No if you want to fight racism, education and experiences are the keys.

 
That's like..uh..duh! We is asian because we is from asian cuntrees! Asian cuntrees=oriental cuntrees! We is like rice very much and use chopstick to feed. We yellow skin and slanteye sometimes bigeye. Aiiya!
 
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Calling someone oriental is like calling someone a great person. The word oriental is associated with many of the old stereotypes found in america's perception of asians in the late 19th-mid 20th century.

Crap.

The n word was bad, so people used negro. That was bad so we switched to colored. Then that was negative, so we switched to black. Now that's bad and we switched to afro-american... but wait, that's bad to so only african-american will do.

Allowing your perception of words to be set by the TINY minority who will use whatever word you choose in an negative manner will only mean you'll sooner or later run out of words.
If people want to separate themselves from a term with negative connotations and derogatory meanings, why is it so hard to respect that?

Because they do it over and over and over and eventually, you run out of words... and the respect of common folks.

Look at the amount of ridicule the term "African-American" gets.

How many words are Asians going to go through before they reach that point? Who knows. The point is, words can only hurt you if you let them.
i always saw changes in the terms representing a culture moving on and making strides in becoming socially accepted by the general public. moving from oriental to asian or asian american helps people rid the perpetual foreigner tag and just be part of the population.

Now that's a laugh. Asian is just as foreign as oriental to the average American.

Why not take a lesson from the black experience? Running from names doesn't make people forget the past, nor does it change their perception. Blacks have gone through 6 labels, and have gained nothing but ridicule for doing so.

Like I said before, no matter WHAT name you choose, the small minded will find a way to turn it into a negative. You'll spend your time running from names rather than simply accepting reality.
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
that doesn't mean we shouldn't give up fighting against it.
That's right, you should fight against it. Trying to get people to stop using a word IS NOT FIGHTING AGAINST RACISM. Instead it probably furthers racism by creating more ammo of words that will offend the opposite group. No if you want to fight racism, education and experiences are the keys.
Educating people about what a word means, its connotations in history, and understanding why people move on from it helps.
 
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