Allahu Akbar! Kill The Swedish Artists Now!

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Grabo

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You should be able to kill someone in self defense if they chant "Allahu akbar."

Less like 'chanting', more like 'screaming half-way hysterically', but yes, it is annoying.

The thing is that Vilks pushes buttons, everyone knows this, and I doubt the presentation he held at Uppsala University was a complete surprise to those attending it. Why don't muslims realize that this shows them in a bad light? Because they have a Big Red Button, and because they don't care - outrage will cleanse the world?

Why don't we see any 'moderate' muslims protesting this? They don't want to become martyrs? They don't exist?
 

ShawnD1

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Well yea duh because you know Christ preached violence in His teachings.

If you've ever been to church in your entire life, you'd probably know that the service starts with a reading from the old testament. At least that's how a Roman Catholic church works.

You will chase your enemies, and they shall fall by the sword before you. Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight; your enemies shall fall by the sword before you. For I will look on you favorably and make you fruitful, multiply you and confirm My covenant with you. You shall eat the old harvest, and clear out the old because of the new.

Leviticus, Chapter 26, verses 7-9
And you shall commit genocide against people who are slightly different.

I miss going to church. Wait a minute, no I don't.
 

JS80

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If you've ever been to church in your entire life, you'd probably know that the service starts with a reading from the old testament. At least that's how a Roman Catholic church works.


And you shall commit genocide against people who are slightly different.

I miss going to church. Wait a minute, no I don't.

Thank you for quoting Christ's words.

Keep digging that hole. You won't win.

PS Jesus loves you.
 

JS80

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Less like 'chanting', more like 'screaming half-way hysterically', but yes, it is annoying.

The thing is that Vilks pushes buttons, everyone knows this, and I doubt the presentation he held at Uppsala University was a complete surprise to those attending it. Why don't muslims realize that this shows them in a bad light? Because they have a Big Red Button, and because they don't care - outrage will cleanse the world?

Why don't we see any 'moderate' muslims protesting this? They don't want to become martyrs? They don't exist?

That's a paradox. Moderate : Muslim :: Peaceful : palestinian
 

ShawnD1

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Thank you for quoting Christ's words.

Keep digging that hole. You won't win.

PS Jesus loves you.

I love it when atheists like you try to tell Catholics like me what the bible says.

But those my enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring here, and slay them before me.

-Luke 19:27
Christ's own words: anyone who doesn't bow to me should be killed.
 

JS80

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I love it when atheists like you try to tell Catholics like me what the bible says.


Christ's own words: anyone who doesn't bow to me should be killed.

Ah, one of three verses in the entire NT anti-christs love to point to. Post the whole parable asshole. He was telling a story.

btw I'm protestant, the correct religion. I hope you enjoy hell with the pedophiles and murderering catholics.
 

Noobtastic

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I love it when atheists like you try to tell Catholics like me what the bible says.


Christ's own words: anyone who doesn't bow to me should be killed.

jesus was a peace-maker, mohamed was a warrior. christians were also largely persecuted and discriminated against by the romans...whereas 7th century islam began as a domineering religion from the get-go.

also note christianity had an ENLIGHTENMENT, whereas islam hasnt.

and christians continue to be persecuted in communist and muslim countries on an institutionalized level.

those who defend homicidal muslims by cherry-picking passages from the old testament are truly sad individuals.
 

ShawnD1

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btw I'm protestant, the correct religion. I hope you enjoy hell with the pedophiles and murderering catholics.
Cool, are you friends with fellow Protestant Ted Haggard? Give him some meth and he'll give you all the gay sex you can handle. Rawr!

Protestant ideology is part of why the US is seen in such a negative light by much of the world. Which group of people is absolutely convinced Jesus will return some time in the next 40 years or so? It's not the Catholics, it's not the Oriental Orthodox, it's not the East Orthodox. It's the Protestants who say that. Which group is fiercely against evolution? The Catholics in Canada accept it, the atheists in Scandinavia accept it, the Catholics in France accept it, the Eastern Orthodox countries are up in the air, and the Protestants in the US are strongly against it. Which one country has actual court battles about evolution, and what religion are they? USA and they're mostly protestants; the Catholic church officially accepts evolution.
 

TruePaige

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This isn't true at all. While Christian nations were in the dark ages, Islamic nations were at their peak. There's a reason the number system we use today is called "arabic numerals". Islamic countries were leading the world in terms of scientific development.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

Yeah, and at some point Africa was a utopia.

Point? :D

P.S. the "Arabic Numerals" were developed by an Indian.
 
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SamurAchzar

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Islam is a Medieval religion that attempts to enforce (and in many cases succeeds at enforcing) Medieval values. Not surprisingly a lot of it's followers are correspondingly primitive in parts of their mentality.

Not that Islam is alone in this, just stating a fact. Everyone knows this.

Fixed
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Cool, are you friends with fellow Protestant Ted Haggard? Give him some meth and he'll give you all the gay sex you can handle. Rawr!

Protestant ideology is part of why the US is seen in such a negative light by much of the world. Which group of people is absolutely convinced Jesus will return some time in the next 40 years or so? It's not the Catholics, it's not the Oriental Orthodox, it's not the East Orthodox. It's the Protestants who say that. Which group is fiercely against evolution? The Catholics in Canada accept it, the atheists in Scandinavia accept it, the Catholics in France accept it, the Eastern Orthodox countries are up in the air, and the Protestants in the US are strongly against it. Which one country has actual court battles about evolution, and what religion are they? USA and they're mostly protestants; the Catholic church officially accepts evolution.


What about the Protestants who don't know when Christ is returning, and accept evolution?

Which of the Protestants are running around threatening to kill people for drawing Jesus?

All Protestants are bad, all Muslims are killers and all Atheists want to eat your babies.

Nice.

What I believe is that all the above have their nutjob idiots, and in these forums we have our proof.
 

SamurAchzar

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This isn't true at all. While Christian nations were in the dark ages, Islamic nations were at their peak. There's a reason the number system we use today is called "arabic numerals". Islamic countries were leading the world in terms of scientific development.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

Eh, another stale debate degenerating into theological BS. It's pretty simple really: Muslims are violent on the behalf of their religion, in uniform, across different regions and backed by their supreme leaders. This is not the case with Christians, Jews or Buddhists. This is a very simple "Everyone knows this" fact, which I doubt you can dispute.

Perhaps if Christians were a bit more violent and persuasive in distributing their religion to more parts of the globe back in the old days, we wouldn't be stuck with a billion-odd Muslims now.
 

ShawnD1

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Perhaps if Christians were a bit more violent and persuasive in distributing their religion to more parts of the globe back in the old days, we wouldn't be stuck with a billion-odd Muslims now.
They did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_crusade
The First Crusade was a military expedition from 1096 to 1099 by Western Christianity to regain the Holy Lands taken by the Muslim conquest of the

There were lots of crusades. Europe was pretty much in a state of endless war against Islam.
 

MotF Bane

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What about the Protestants who don't know when Christ is returning, and accept evolution?

Which of the Protestants are running around threatening to kill people for drawing Jesus?

All Protestants are bad, all Muslims are killers and all Atheists want to eat your babies.

Nice.

What I believe is that all the above have their nutjob idiots, and in these forums we have our proof.

Don't forget, all Catholics rape little boys.
 

HumblePie

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What about the Protestants who don't know when Christ is returning, and accept evolution?

Which of the Protestants are running around threatening to kill people for drawing Jesus?

All Protestants are bad, all Muslims are killers and all Atheists want to eat your babies.

Nice.

What I believe is that all the above have their nutjob idiots, and in these forums we have our proof.

Yumm babies! Get in my belly!
 

actuarial

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those who defend homicidal muslims by cherry-picking passages from the old testament are truly sad individuals.

I cherry-pick passages not to defend Muslims, but to show the hypocrisy of Christians, and I think a lot of others do too. I am against most of the world's organized religions.

The ones that are truly sad are those that try to point out how bad Islam is to try to legitimize Christianity. "My religion's good because it's not as bad as that guy's religion, even though it was at one point".
 

Noobtastic

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This isn't true at all. While Christian nations were in the dark ages, Islamic nations were at their peak. There's a reason the number system we use today is called "arabic numerals". Islamic countries were leading the world in terms of scientific development.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

Wow, nice quote-mining. LemonLoser has tought you well, grasshopper.

The Islamic states began in the dark ages, and stayed that way. Much of their accomplishments were stolen from the people they conquered. Jews cleansed from Medina, christians converted into dhimmi status, 50+ million hindus wiped out in what is now india between the 11-14th century (one muslim conqueror demanded 100,000 heads a day).

much of today's Islamic population are descedents of those forcibly converted.

anyways, clinging to the golden age to justify islamic backwardness in the 21st century is just as retarded as defending homicidal muslims by cherry-picking quotes from the old testament.

ISLAM was inspired by christianity and jews, except the prophets claimed the jews/christians "distorted" the word of god at some point, but this of course was proven false when the dead sea scrolls were recovered (written thousands of years before islam) - which almost matched word for word the modern old testament.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahrif

islam has been proved has a truly bogus religion because it's scripture is predicated on the argument that christians and jews distorted the true bible at some point.

as stated before, this has been demolished because:

a) jews and christians hated each other, thus they could not conspire together

b) the original manuscripts of the bible have been discovered, and they almost 100% match today's modern old testament

c) jews and christians who converted into islam never spoke of any event where the texts were rewritten.


and like i said before, christianity had an enlightenment in the 18th century, islam hasn't. christians continue to be persecuted and killed at an institutionalized level in muslim and communist countries, where islam is king in 50+ nations and continues to wage imperial wars throughout the world.

christians are not flying planes into buildings, or murdering their daughters, or oppressing minorities, etc...

I cherry-pick passages not to defend Muslims, but to show the hypocrisy of Christians, and I think a lot of others do too. I am against most of the world's organized religions.
the old testament was written thousands of years before the Quran.

It was written in a time where there were NO laws and no rules of life. Humans could kill their wifes, murder their children, do as they please without punishment.

the bible essentially provided list of rules that told people how to behave in concert with god.

early christians were essentially the first progressives/ACLU lovers in history compared to everyone else.

yeah, of course some of the allegorical passages of the bible could be interpretated as hate speech, but you must appreciate the historical context.

the quran, on the other hand, was written 2,000+ years before the original books of the old testament.

you cannot compare the two as one was written in a time of no laws and rules, whereas the other was written in a time where civilization had already been established and people understood right from wrong.

as far as organized religion goes, i never understood this fear of christianity and die-hard love for islam.

christianity is a progressive religion predicated on mostly charity and peace, at least today. much of today's modern charities use the bible and christianity as an outreach tool. they assist those persecuted in communisty north korea, china, and vietnam, they help christians who are being persecuted in the arab and muslim world, etc...

this is a popular movement that exists to help christians and other religion minorities:

http://www.persecution.com/

i am NOT a christian or a muslim. im not really into religion or spirutual bullshit, but i call a spade a spade.

christians aren't cutting people's heads off or murdering those who criticize them.