All you Clinton Haters

[Jhhnn]

This explains it all. You are utterly clueless as to how our government is being run and you put way too much faith in the main stream media. And if there was really useful obstructionism by republicans in congress there would have been no way in hell Trump would have been nominated. Sadly. his nomination is nothing more that a big FU to establishment republicans. The establishment is the problem and the establishment is made up of powerful democrats and powerful republicans.

You once again rely on false equivalency, this time between the political parties.

 

[Starbuck1975]

This. She has been a target of fatman Newt since the day she dared step out of the kitchen and be so bold as to have a mere opinion over real issues, let alone engage in policy--a first for a FLOTUS. (The bulk of Eleanor's good work was done post-FLOTUS).

Prior to Hillary, all that was expected of a first lady was to model dresses and transmit national security and policy advice from your astrologer to your demented husband.

The FLOTUS is not an elected official nor a cabinet appointment. There are certainly instances of first ladies transcending the role to take on pet projects or causes, but policy is something else entirely.

It has nothing to do with gender. Hillary as FLOTUS entered into the policy realm and expected to wield the power of a position that doesnt exist.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Oh, please. The fact remains that Comey & the FBI never accused her of lying. If you contend that they have, quote & link.

I already provided the link from Politifact. Did you read it? Comey effectively said that Hillary Clinton lied when she said that there was no classified information sent or received. Are you actually denying this? If so, please explain your rationale.

Here it is for easy reference.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...y-clintons-wrong-claim-fbi-director-comey-ca/

 

[MongGrel]

The FLOTUS is not an elected official nor a cabinet appointment. There are certainly instances of first ladies transcending the role to take on pet projects or causes, but policy is something else entirely.

It has nothing to do with gender. Hillary as FLOTUS entered into the policy realm and expected to wield the power of a position that doesnt exist.

The Nancy Reagan reference appears to have went right over the head.

Has nothing to do with Hillary currently at any rate.

 

[soulcougher73]

Her face?

 

[MongGrel]

I already provided the link from Politifact. Comey effectively said that Hillary Clinton lied when she said that there was no classified information sent or received. Are you actually denying this? If so, please explain your rationale.

Your own personal bubble you live in is pretty enormous, your still ranting about Comey.

What's next, more Benghazi ?

 

[fskimospy]

I already provided the link from Politifact. Did you read it? Comey effectively said that Hillary Clinton lied when she said that there was no classified information sent or received. Are you actually denying this? If so, please explain your rationale.

Here it is for easy reference.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...y-clintons-wrong-claim-fbi-director-comey-ca/

Interesting how your views towards politifact change depending on if their articles tell you what you want to hear.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Interesting how your views towards politifact change depending on if their articles tell you what you want to hear.

Fuck off troll.

 

[MongGrel]

Interesting how your views towards politifact change depending on if their articles tell you what you want to hear.

Apparently.

His views on that one do fluctuate wildly.

 

[Jhhnn]

It was bill clinton who changed the banking regulations and set the banks on a path to crash.

the crash just "happened" to happen under a Republican president.

Clinton & a Repub Congress. He wasn't pushing for it. They were.

It was the GWB admin in their oversight role that failed to properly regulate banks. They did so for ideological reasons, so-called self regulated banking, an oxymoron if ever there was one. They actively promoted the creation of bad debt & toxic securities as a package deal-

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/22/hiding-behind-the-invisible-hand/

 

[Starbuck1975]

The Nancy Reagan reference appears to have went right over the head.

Has nothing to do with Hillary currently at any rate.

Apparently so. I see no reference to Nancy Reagan in the sequence of posts i referred to.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Her face?

Her voice.

Her worn, insincere and practiced smile.

 

[zinfamous]

It was bill clinton who changed the banking regulations and set the banks on a path to crash.

the crash just "happened" to happen under a Republican president.

Bill Clinton merely polished off what Reagan began. If you think Clinton was the big deregulator, then you have another think coming.

Repealing Glass-Steagall was a big deal, at least it seems like a big deal. There is a pretty solid piece of reality that shows that the repeal of the act didn't influence the crisis to any real degree, because the major culprits: Bear Stearns, Lehman, Goldman, and AIG were never hindered by the application of that Act--they would have behaved just as poorly (and criminally) if the act had never been repealed. The savings that people lost weren't really tied to the types of banks that GS regulated.

That being said, it is obvious that more regulation is necessary and we would still be better off with GS in place than without, as unrestrained capitalism is a real evil. It pleases me that you, as a dedicated conservative, understand this.

 

[MongGrel]

Fuck off troll.

Her voice.

Her worn, insincere and practiced smile.

Your comments seem to be digressing to grade school level.

 

[zinfamous]

Apparently so. I see no reference to Nancy Reagan in the sequence of posts i referred to.

Prior to Hillary, all that was expected of a first lady was to model dresses and transmit national security and policy advice from your astrologer to your demented husband.

It's right there^

 

[OrByte]

HRC was getting "swift boated" before Kerry was swift boated

Bhengazi
Emails
Clinton Foundation
...all swiftboating meaningless noisy FUD.

Sorry GOP, enjoy the next 8 years of HRC in charge

 

[Jhhnn]

I already provided the link from Politifact. Did you read it? Comey effectively said that Hillary Clinton lied when she said that there was no classified information sent or received. Are you actually denying this? If so, please explain your rationale.

Here it is for easy reference.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...y-clintons-wrong-claim-fbi-director-comey-ca/

"Effectively said" is pure spin into being something you want to hear. That's like Cheney's "pretty much confirmed" bullshit. Comey is a straight shooter who never claimed that Clinton was lying. If he had, you'd have a quote, but you don't. What you have is bullshit.

 

[fskimospy]

Fuck off troll.

DSF when Politifact doesn't say what he wants to hear:

"Mostly True"??? WTF? West Point's own website uses the term "full scholarship" and Politifact explicitly states this in their article. Politico, I understand their MO...but Politifact flailing about over a matter of incredibly trivial semantics and twisting it is something to behold and gives one more than a little insight into the true lack of objectivity of this organization.

I'm shocked that DSF thinks they lack objectivity one minute and then in the next is citing them as a valid source. Your hypocrisy is on hilarious display once again.

 

[Jhhnn]

The FLOTUS is not an elected official nor a cabinet appointment. There are certainly instances of first ladies transcending the role to take on pet projects or causes, but policy is something else entirely.

It has nothing to do with gender. Hillary as FLOTUS entered into the policy realm and expected to wield the power of a position that doesnt exist.

She expected to wield the power granted to her by her husband, the president. When he said "go ahead & work on this (insert issue here) & tell me what you can come up with" she did just that. He delegated executive prerogatives to her.

 

[BurnItDwn]

DoubleTrouble & Starbuck nailed it.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's right there^

Probably too young to get the reference.

 

[openwheel]

Fanatics of the Republican Party have thrown everything at Hilary and she is still standing.

If her body count is really 95 and she can get away with it, then she deserves to the POTUS. LOL at these idiotic GOP fans.

The biggest problem of the GOP is their base, they are a bunch of fanatics, literally. McCain is a great moderate who lost because he brown nosed to the republican base, same as Romney. It is really sad, now the Republican base is trotting out Trump, what a bunch of idiots.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

DSF when Politifact doesn't say what he wants to hear:



I'm shocked that DSF thinks they lack objectivity one minute and then in the next is citing them as a valid source. Your hypocrisy is on hilarious display once again.

Look you low-life weasel...I never said that Politifact was the end-all and be-all unquestionable authority on all issues political and when I disagreed with that particular analysis you quoted, I specifically said why. I don't know why you feel so compelled to troll me at every opportunity, but your incessant butthurt and trolling is getting damn old. Please fuck off and take your insecurity and unresolved psychological issues with you.


^^^ This, preceded in the same thread by this, merits at least this warning. I hope you can eventually see how ridiculously overboard you went in response to two relatively tame posts, not to mention that YOU reported one of them!

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

"Effectively said" is pure spin into being something you want to hear. That's like Cheney's "pretty much confirmed" bullshit. Comey is a straight shooter who never claimed that Clinton was lying. If he had, you'd have a quote, but you don't. What you have is bullshit.

This is called lying in my world.

Gowdy: "Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her emails either sent or received. Was that true?"

Comey: "That’s not true."

Gowdy: "Secretary Clinton said, ‘I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.’ Was that true?"

Comey: "There was classified material emailed."​

lie 2 (l&#299
n.
1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
2. Something meant to deceive or mistakenly accepted as true: learned his parents had been swindlers and felt his whole childhood had been a lie.

 

[bshole]

Interesting how your views towards politifact change depending on if their articles tell you what you want to hear.

That isn't exactly a rebuttal though....