All these kids getting Computer Science degrees

[shiner]

This is why I'm a Business Management major- those punks are gonna work for ME.

Hope you aren't like some of the managers I've been around. We were in a meeting some months back and the network engineers were complaining about various departmental managers getting pissed and yelling at them because the managers weren't getting their port connections made as quickly as they would like. The guys were trying to explain that the reason for the delay was because cable had not been run to the new building and that the cabling contractor was working as fast as they could. One of the upper management types then said "well why can't we go ahead and make the ports hot before the cable is installed?" I faked getting a page so I could leave the room and not laugh in the guys face.

 

[smp]

You bring up a good point, and although I was too lazy to read the thread in it's entirety, I think that this is a result of "bribery" .. we're taught ever since we were kids to do things for rewards .. scooby snacks . cookies etc etc ... People will do anything for money and yeah, it's gonna take the love right out of it, but fvck them. They're gonna be miserable and useless, only problem is that the reputation of CS majors as a whole and computer nerds period will wane.

edit:

<--- has a degree in fine art

 

[Fulcrum]

CS may be still be one of the fastest growing fields, but it seems to me that even with this being the case supply will still exceed demand. There are SO many CS majors out there. Also, many people have this idea that every job in the CS field pays $75,000-$100,000+ plus a year. That is not the case as many of you in the field should know. Glad I didn't get my degree in CS like everyone told me to. It's a great field if you love the work, but I knew that it was not for me.

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
if youre a good programmer you will have no problem finding a job. if you're stupid or suck then it wil be hard.

Lol Ameesh. I had a feeling you'd come in here and say something like that Must you rub it in to the rest of the software guys here who don't work for a multi-billion dollar company which didn't undergo any severe layoffs?

Job security is a meaningless indication of one's intelligence level and skills. You work at Microsoft, I at Intel. We have the highest level of job security in the tech industry. Yet a couple of my co-workers are about the dumbest engineers I have ever met.

Some of the brightest EE/CS majors I know got laid off during the .com bust and are jobless right now. Some of these are Berkeley phd students who can't find a job! Are they less competent than you and I? Surely not. So I wouldn't rush out and place myself on a pedastool just yet

 

[Maverick]

Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI
This is why I'm a Business Management major- those punks are gonna work for ME.

LOL! Yeah cuz you know most managers get hired straight outta college and have people working for them right away. They NEVER hire from within the ranks

I was one of the generic CS majors but honestly I liked working a lot better than school. I'm a much more successful programmer at the workplace than I ever was in school.

 

[Koing]

The CS field in England is getting bigger and more popular but not to really crazy proportioins and that you can't get a job when you come out.

Everyone wants experience though and that did bother me first of all. But you got to start somewhere so you work a lesser job until you have 3-5 years then you can move on with that experience if you want.

I was lucky and I am getting a scholarship from my local council and that also gives me a summer job for the years that I am in University (starting CS in 5 weeks) so thats about 3 or 4 summers of experience with a company. This will no doubt look good on my CV the bigger the company is. I might stay on at the company if I like working there. I find out which company it is out of these ones:

Autodesk - BAA - BOC Gases - BP - Business Link Surrey - Canon - Courage Trust - Dalloz Safety - Dept. of Trade and Industry - John & Freda Coleman Trust - Engineering Council - Esso - Halliburton Brown & Root - Kvaerner Oil & Gas - MDL - Mott MacDonald - Nokia - ntl - Nuffield Foundation - Philips Research Laboratories - Phillips Petroleum Company - Rhopoint - Surrey County Council - Wall's Ice Cream - WhiteOaks Consultancy - Worshipful Company of Engineers - Zeneca Agrochemicals

Around about the 10th of September when dish out the cash £1000 to me each year of Uni.

 

[Mucman]

Tell me about it! I am barely getting through CS since the influx of computer geek wannabes! So many people I go to class with hate what they are learning. It drives me crazy. All they care about is the money.

 

[tigerwannabe]

yup, computers & programming are in-demand fields, but i doubt anyone's gonna graduate out of college & start making $40,000+ a year. i've been in the biz close to 10 years now & hiring practices really haven't changed. everyone is looking to hire programmers & techs with 5+ years of experience. the jobs are there but most aren't for entry-level people. jobs in any profession seem tough to find. sad for those graduating soon

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Ameesh
if youre a good programmer you will have no problem finding a job. if you're stupid or suck then it wil be hard.

Lol Ameesh. I had a feeling you'd come in here and say something like that Must you rub it in to the rest of the software guys here who don't work for a multi-billion dollar company which didn't undergo any severe layoffs?

Job security is a meaningless indication of one's intelligence level and skills. You work at Microsoft, I at Intel. We have the highest level of job security in the tech industry. Yet a couple of my co-workers are about the dumbest engineers I have ever met.

Some of the brightest EE/CS majors I know got laid off during the .com bust and are jobless right now. Some of these are Berkeley phd students who can't find a job! Are they less competent than you and I? Surely not. So I wouldn't rush out and place myself on a pedastool just yet

im not trying to rub anything in anyones face, all im saying is if your good at what your doing finding a job is not that hard, granted it might not be a great job but a job would be defintly easy to find. as for people who work for .com's i have no sympathy for them, they choose to go there because the salaries were high and they knew that it was risky, if or when the lost there jobs they should have been prepared. hell there were a bunch of .com's in the LA area that i could have made well into 6 figures but it wasnt the highest priority on my list. and for berkley phd students well... i'd rather not get into but suffice it to say that business are realizing that profit is more important then altrusitic intentions but the hippies at berkley havent realized this.

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Ameesh
if youre a good programmer you will have no problem finding a job. if you're stupid or suck then it wil be hard.

Lol Ameesh. I had a feeling you'd come in here and say something like that Must you rub it in to the rest of the software guys here who don't work for a multi-billion dollar company which didn't undergo any severe layoffs?

Job security is a meaningless indication of one's intelligence level and skills. You work at Microsoft, I at Intel. We have the highest level of job security in the tech industry. Yet a couple of my co-workers are about the dumbest engineers I have ever met.

Some of the brightest EE/CS majors I know got laid off during the .com bust and are jobless right now. Some of these are Berkeley phd students who can't find a job! Are they less competent than you and I? Surely not. So I wouldn't rush out and place myself on a pedastool just yet

im not trying to rub anything in anyones face, all im saying is if your good at what your doing finding a job is not that hard, granted it might not be a great job but a job would be defintly easy to find. as for people who work for .com's i have no sympathy for them, they choose to go there because the salaries were high and they knew that it was risky, if or when the lost there jobs they should have been prepared. hell there were a bunch of .com's in the LA area that i could have made well into 6 figures but it wasnt the highest priority on my list. and for berkley phd students well... i'd rather not get into but suffice it to say that business are realizing that profit is more important then altrusitic intentions but the hippies at berkley havent realized this.

LOL., another stab at Berkeley ey?
I mentioned Bekeley phd's because I have friends in the EE/CS phd program there, and you and I both know that Berkeley's EE/CS program is one of the best in the world. Most Silicon Valley companies and people who know the high-tech field will hire a Berkeley EE/CS grad over a Stanfurd grad any day.

So its a good indication of the hiring climate in Silicon Valley.

You worked in the industry for a couple years... which means you got great job offers easily when you entered the field. Well, that was true for everyone at that time. The climate has changed dramatically now, and even the best students from the best schools aren't getting job offers left and right like the students of years past.

Be a little tactful... its all I'm saying. You're up in Redmond Washington where there were practically no layoffs. I'm in the heart of Silicon Valley which definitely represents what the rest of the industry is seeing... and I know what the job climate is like.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Ameesh
if youre a good programmer you will have no problem finding a job. if you're stupid or suck then it wil be hard.

Lol Ameesh. I had a feeling you'd come in here and say something like that Must you rub it in to the rest of the software guys here who don't work for a multi-billion dollar company which didn't undergo any severe layoffs?

Job security is a meaningless indication of one's intelligence level and skills. You work at Microsoft, I at Intel. We have the highest level of job security in the tech industry. Yet a couple of my co-workers are about the dumbest engineers I have ever met.

Some of the brightest EE/CS majors I know got laid off during the .com bust and are jobless right now. Some of these are Berkeley phd students who can't find a job! Are they less competent than you and I? Surely not. So I wouldn't rush out and place myself on a pedastool just yet

im not trying to rub anything in anyones face, all im saying is if your good at what your doing finding a job is not that hard, granted it might not be a great job but a job would be defintly easy to find. as for people who work for .com's i have no sympathy for them, they choose to go there because the salaries were high and they knew that it was risky, if or when the lost there jobs they should have been prepared. hell there were a bunch of .com's in the LA area that i could have made well into 6 figures but it wasnt the highest priority on my list. and for berkley phd students well... i'd rather not get into but suffice it to say that business are realizing that profit is more important then altrusitic intentions but the hippies at berkley havent realized this.

LOL., another stab at Berkeley ey?
I mentioned Bekeley phd's because I have friends in the EE/CS phd program there, and you and I both know that Berkeley's EE/CS program is one of the best in the world. Most Silicon Valley companies and people who know the high-tech field will hire a Berkeley EE/CS grad over a Stanfurd grad any day.

So its a good indication of the hiring climate in Silicon Valley.

You worked in the industry for a couple years... which means you got great job offers easily when you entered the field. Well, that was true for everyone at that time. The climate has changed dramatically now, and even the best students from the best schools aren't getting job offers left and right like the students of years past.

Be a little tactful... its all I'm saying. You're up in Redmond Washington where there were practically no layoffs. I'm in the heart of Silicon Valley which definitely represents what the rest of the industry is seeing... and I know what the job climate is like.

i graduated college in 2001, the climate wasnt much different. if you recall the economy dove at the end of 1999. and again if you went to work for a .com you knew what you were getting into, i dont have any sympathy for those people.

 

[BD2003]

Damn, what is with the holier than thou attitude? I bet if you got laid off you'd go and blame the economy like everyone else. Sounds like a classic case of an attribution error.

 

[DougK62]

People make too big of a deal about this. Believe me, it's NOT just the IT industry that's struggling! With few exceptions, everyone is. We've gotten too adjusted to the big tech boom of the mid-late 90s. Now the field is leveling out like all fields and everyone is running around scared. IT isn't going away. If you are good at what you do and enjoy it, you will be able to find a job. And please don't tell me that there are SOOOO many CS graduates these days because it simply isn't true. Sure, there's more than there has been in the past, but CS is something new - you have to expect it to grow. Just compare the number of CS graduates to education and business graduates - THOSE are the degrees that everyone gets

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Ameesh
if youre a good programmer you will have no problem finding a job. if you're stupid or suck then it wil be hard.

Lol Ameesh. I had a feeling you'd come in here and say something like that Must you rub it in to the rest of the software guys here who don't work for a multi-billion dollar company which didn't undergo any severe layoffs?

Job security is a meaningless indication of one's intelligence level and skills. You work at Microsoft, I at Intel. We have the highest level of job security in the tech industry. Yet a couple of my co-workers are about the dumbest engineers I have ever met.

Some of the brightest EE/CS majors I know got laid off during the .com bust and are jobless right now. Some of these are Berkeley phd students who can't find a job! Are they less competent than you and I? Surely not. So I wouldn't rush out and place myself on a pedastool just yet

im not trying to rub anything in anyones face, all im saying is if your good at what your doing finding a job is not that hard, granted it might not be a great job but a job would be defintly easy to find. as for people who work for .com's i have no sympathy for them, they choose to go there because the salaries were high and they knew that it was risky, if or when the lost there jobs they should have been prepared. hell there were a bunch of .com's in the LA area that i could have made well into 6 figures but it wasnt the highest priority on my list. and for berkley phd students well... i'd rather not get into but suffice it to say that business are realizing that profit is more important then altrusitic intentions but the hippies at berkley havent realized this.

LOL., another stab at Berkeley ey?
I mentioned Bekeley phd's because I have friends in the EE/CS phd program there, and you and I both know that Berkeley's EE/CS program is one of the best in the world. Most Silicon Valley companies and people who know the high-tech field will hire a Berkeley EE/CS grad over a Stanfurd grad any day.

So its a good indication of the hiring climate in Silicon Valley.

You worked in the industry for a couple years... which means you got great job offers easily when you entered the field. Well, that was true for everyone at that time. The climate has changed dramatically now, and even the best students from the best schools aren't getting job offers left and right like the students of years past.

Be a little tactful... its all I'm saying. You're up in Redmond Washington where there were practically no layoffs. I'm in the heart of Silicon Valley which definitely represents what the rest of the industry is seeing... and I know what the job climate is like.

i graduated college in 2001, the climate wasnt much different. if you recall the economy dove at the end of 1999. and again if you went to work for a .com you knew what you were getting into, i dont have any sympathy for those people.

Thats fine that you don't have sympathy for the dotcommers. I could care less myself.

But I'm not going into a thread full of wide-eyed college kids who know very little about the industry and say something like "if you're stupid, then its hard" What you said is somewhat funny, but also tactless considering that you're not facing what they're facing.

Come down to the Valley and interview for my group in Intel. I would place money that you wouln't get an offer. Not trying to be facetious, just pointing out that the ease with which you found a job is no longer there.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: BD2003
Damn, what is with the holier than thou attitude? I bet if you got laid off you'd go and blame the economy like everyone else. Sounds like a classic case of an attribution error.

oh for fvck sake, all im saying its not as dreadful as all these people are making it out to be, there is still work out there, it may not be the 100k job of your dreams but it you can still find stuff. If there wasnt any work the us wouldnt be issuing so many h-1b visas.

blaming the economy doesnt solve anything, be proactive about solving your problem, i wish all of you out there looking for work the very best of luck. it may be hard but i assure you there is stuff out there.

 

[CubicZirconia]

Ok, so if CS isn't the field to get into, what is?

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Ameesh
if youre a good programmer you will have no problem finding a job. if you're stupid or suck then it wil be hard.

Lol Ameesh. I had a feeling you'd come in here and say something like that Must you rub it in to the rest of the software guys here who don't work for a multi-billion dollar company which didn't undergo any severe layoffs?

Job security is a meaningless indication of one's intelligence level and skills. You work at Microsoft, I at Intel. We have the highest level of job security in the tech industry. Yet a couple of my co-workers are about the dumbest engineers I have ever met.

Some of the brightest EE/CS majors I know got laid off during the .com bust and are jobless right now. Some of these are Berkeley phd students who can't find a job! Are they less competent than you and I? Surely not. So I wouldn't rush out and place myself on a pedastool just yet

im not trying to rub anything in anyones face, all im saying is if your good at what your doing finding a job is not that hard, granted it might not be a great job but a job would be defintly easy to find. as for people who work for .com's i have no sympathy for them, they choose to go there because the salaries were high and they knew that it was risky, if or when the lost there jobs they should have been prepared. hell there were a bunch of .com's in the LA area that i could have made well into 6 figures but it wasnt the highest priority on my list. and for berkley phd students well... i'd rather not get into but suffice it to say that business are realizing that profit is more important then altrusitic intentions but the hippies at berkley havent realized this.

LOL., another stab at Berkeley ey?
I mentioned Bekeley phd's because I have friends in the EE/CS phd program there, and you and I both know that Berkeley's EE/CS program is one of the best in the world. Most Silicon Valley companies and people who know the high-tech field will hire a Berkeley EE/CS grad over a Stanfurd grad any day.

So its a good indication of the hiring climate in Silicon Valley.

You worked in the industry for a couple years... which means you got great job offers easily when you entered the field. Well, that was true for everyone at that time. The climate has changed dramatically now, and even the best students from the best schools aren't getting job offers left and right like the students of years past.

Be a little tactful... its all I'm saying. You're up in Redmond Washington where there were practically no layoffs. I'm in the heart of Silicon Valley which definitely represents what the rest of the industry is seeing... and I know what the job climate is like.

i graduated college in 2001, the climate wasnt much different. if you recall the economy dove at the end of 1999. and again if you went to work for a .com you knew what you were getting into, i dont have any sympathy for those people.

Thats fine that you don't have sympathy for the dotcommers. I could care less myself.

But I'm not going into a thread full of wide-eyed college kids who know very little about the industry and say something like "if you're stupid, then its hard" What you said is somewhat funny, but also tactless considering that you're not facing what they're facing.

Come down to the Valley and interview for my group in Intel. I would place money that you wouln't get an offer. Not trying to be facetious, just pointing out that the ease with which you found a job is no longer there.

it wasnt easy for myself or my friends but we all made and we all ended up getting jobs. I wouldn't want to work for intel as a software dev but i did apply with IBM in the valley and i got two offers for silicon vally positions and one offer for a spot in Research Triangle in Carolina.

things are not that different from july of last year and now, i was one of those wide-eyed college kids. and i'm not gonna piss in their kool-aid because everyone else is.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
Ok, so if CS isn't the field to get into, what is?

if you like CS, do it, dont listen to these apocolyptic pissants trying to convince you that you'll be working at mcdonalds or something. Do what you like, everything will work out from there.

 

[satori]

You're up in Redmond Washington where there were practically no layoffs.

Well, disregarding Microsoft, Seattle's tech market is pretty bad. I believe they've got one of the highest levels of unemployment in the tech industry. I know of 2 guys that have been out of work for over a year. Both were doing Java/DB/.com stuff.

As for being a Berkeley (or Stanford, or whatever) grad with a PhD, it really depends on what you were working on. I know the company I'm currently at was trying for the longest time to get this guy from Berkeley. But, he kept turning the position down.

Come down to the Valley and interview for my group in Intel. I would place money that you wouln't get an offer. Not trying to be facetious, just pointing out that the ease with which you found a job is no longer there.

Groups at Intel >are< hiring though, right? One of my co-workers left about a month ago and interviewed for something at Intel... and his friend got it, instead. He said it took him about a month of interviewing to get 3 job offers. One of my roomies works at Sun and I know he's been interviewing a lot.

 

[gopunk]

no, it's not wise, it's stupid. i firmly hate anybody who is in cs just for the money, it really disgusts me like nothing else.

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Ameesh
if youre a good programmer you will have no problem finding a job. if you're stupid or suck then it wil be hard.

Lol Ameesh. I had a feeling you'd come in here and say something like that Must you rub it in to the rest of the software guys here who don't work for a multi-billion dollar company which didn't undergo any severe layoffs?

Job security is a meaningless indication of one's intelligence level and skills. You work at Microsoft, I at Intel. We have the highest level of job security in the tech industry. Yet a couple of my co-workers are about the dumbest engineers I have ever met.

Some of the brightest EE/CS majors I know got laid off during the .com bust and are jobless right now. Some of these are Berkeley phd students who can't find a job! Are they less competent than you and I? Surely not. So I wouldn't rush out and place myself on a pedastool just yet

im not trying to rub anything in anyones face, all im saying is if your good at what your doing finding a job is not that hard, granted it might not be a great job but a job would be defintly easy to find. as for people who work for .com's i have no sympathy for them, they choose to go there because the salaries were high and they knew that it was risky, if or when the lost there jobs they should have been prepared. hell there were a bunch of .com's in the LA area that i could have made well into 6 figures but it wasnt the highest priority on my list. and for berkley phd students well... i'd rather not get into but suffice it to say that business are realizing that profit is more important then altrusitic intentions but the hippies at berkley havent realized this.

LOL., another stab at Berkeley ey?
I mentioned Bekeley phd's because I have friends in the EE/CS phd program there, and you and I both know that Berkeley's EE/CS program is one of the best in the world. Most Silicon Valley companies and people who know the high-tech field will hire a Berkeley EE/CS grad over a Stanfurd grad any day.

So its a good indication of the hiring climate in Silicon Valley.

You worked in the industry for a couple years... which means you got great job offers easily when you entered the field. Well, that was true for everyone at that time. The climate has changed dramatically now, and even the best students from the best schools aren't getting job offers left and right like the students of years past.

Be a little tactful... its all I'm saying. You're up in Redmond Washington where there were practically no layoffs. I'm in the heart of Silicon Valley which definitely represents what the rest of the industry is seeing... and I know what the job climate is like.

i graduated college in 2001, the climate wasnt much different. if you recall the economy dove at the end of 1999. and again if you went to work for a .com you knew what you were getting into, i dont have any sympathy for those people.

Thats fine that you don't have sympathy for the dotcommers. I could care less myself.

But I'm not going into a thread full of wide-eyed college kids who know very little about the industry and say something like "if you're stupid, then its hard" What you said is somewhat funny, but also tactless considering that you're not facing what they're facing.

Come down to the Valley and interview for my group in Intel. I would place money that you wouln't get an offer. Not trying to be facetious, just pointing out that the ease with which you found a job is no longer there.

it wasnt easy for myself or my friends but we all made and we all ended up getting jobs. I wouldn't want to work for intel as a software dev but i did apply with IBM in the valley and i got two offers for silicon vally positions and one offer for a spot in Research Triangle in Carolina.

things are not that different from july of last year and now, i was one of those wide-eyed college kids. and i'm not gonna piss in their kool-aid because everyone else is.

Calm down.
All I'm saying is that the climate is different now than it was a year ago. You're up in Washington where there's only 1 major tech company, and that company didn't lay people off.

I'm in the Valley, and I'm surrounded by jobless engineers. My own company cut 10k employees in the past 2 years. And although I survived layoffs and even got double digit raises in the past 2 years I'm not going to claim that its challenging to get a job now and that people who are jobless are stupid, and recount how many job offers I got when I was searching

I'm not discrediting you or your qualifications. So take it easy bud. Just realize and accept that you're not facing the conditions that these recent college grads are facing in the Valley.

Again if you're really confident that you can overcome hiring freezes, try to come down and interview with my group. But if you do and fail, I reserve the right to call you stupid and say you suck and tell you about how I got great offers from multiple companies

Peace

 

[Ameesh]

hey calaber i got a solution for you: DONT INTERVIEW IN THE VALLEY WHERE THERE ALREADY A BUNCH OF LAID OFF ENGINEERS, the united states is huge, orange county, austin, oklahoma,raliegh, DC, miami, new york etc. there are lot of places where computer companies are sprouting up. redmond and the valley are not the only places in the world. and who says you have to work for a computer company , i have friends that work in financial firms as programmers, i know a guy who works as a DB Admin for porsche, nearly every industry needs at least a few people who understand computers.

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: satori

You're up in Redmond Washington where there were practically no layoffs.

Well, disregarding Microsoft, Seattle's tech market is pretty bad. I believe they've got one of the highest levels of unemployment in the tech industry. I know of 2 guys that have been out of work for over a year. Both were doing Java/DB/.com stuff.

As for being a Berkeley (or Stanford, or whatever) grad with a PhD, it really depends on what you were working on. I know the company I'm currently at was trying for the longest time to get this guy from Berkeley. But, he kept turning the position down.

Come down to the Valley and interview for my group in Intel. I would place money that you wouln't get an offer. Not trying to be facetious, just pointing out that the ease with which you found a job is no longer there.

Groups at Intel >are< hiring though, right? One of my co-workers left about a month ago and interviewed for something at Intel... and his friend got it, instead. He said it took him about a month of interviewing to get 3 job offers. One of my roomies works at Sun and I know he's been interviewing a lot.

Yes groups are hiring. But there is a nominal hiring freeze for my group, DPG (Desktop Products Group). So an exceptional engineer will get hired, but it won't be easy.

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
hey calaber i got a solution for you: DONT INTERVIEW IN THE VALLEY WHERE THERE ALREADY A BUNCH OF LAID OFF ENGINEERS, the united states is huge, orange county, austin, oklahoma,raliegh, DC, miami, new york etc. there are lot of places where computer companies are sprouting up. redmond and the valley are not the only places in the world. and who says you have to work for a computer company , i have friends that work in financial firms as programmers, i know a guy who works as a DB Admin for porsche, nearly every industry needs at least a few people who understand computers.

Lol... you're so hard to have a discussion with Ameesh

Its all good though... go Windows!

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: CPA
Your question is the exact reason I got an accounting degree and then persued my CPA - I knew I could make good money with both.

I was considering a CS for a few reasons... all of which you stated. I enjoy CS work, and it's a relatively stable career field, even with just a B.S.... however, I realized that I'd be better off getting a degree in something I actually enjoy (Economics), and pursuing graduate work in that field instead.