well, does that really matter? I mean, when you can fork over 2g for a camera, chances are you got 2 or more spare stand-alone flash sitting around.
well, does that really matter? I mean, when you can fork over 2g for a camera, chances are you got 2 or more spare stand-alone flash sitting around.
Original 5D didn't have pop-up flash either.
I'd rather have the better viewfinder over the dinky pop-up flash. I never use pop-up flash anyway, and certainly don't in a professional shoot - which is what people buying this camera will use it for.
If it DID have pop-up flash, I'd say that would be weaksauce.
internal flash is essentially useless when you get into event photography tho. try using that at a wedding... I personally don't see it's benefit unless you're in a bind. And if you're using a 5D (or any camera) in a professional manner, you'll most likely have a way to get external lighting. But hey, that's just my opinion.
What do you have now?
I think it's unreasonable to expect the MK2 to do sports well when the 5D series was more like a dumbed down 1Ds instead of 1D.
It's out of my price range but I ain't knocking it neither, it's obviously a superb still camera.
To get a jack of all trades camera on the canon side I will be looking at the used 1D MK2/3 market.
It's out of my price range but I ain't knocking it neither, it's obviously a superb still camera.
To get a jack of all trades camera on the canon side I will be looking at the used 1D MK2/3 market.
Adding an external flash is necessary if you want to have any sort of good range and fill flash ability. A built in flash isn't going to be any good for that.
If I want to fire something off wirelessly, I just use my pocket wizards - which work far better than a flash as a controller for other flashes since they go through walls, etc. and I don't have to worry about any line of sight issues.
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The Canon 5D was a "revolution", and I think people were expecting that after 3 years Canon would have another "revolution". Instead, it looks like they created a camera that has a great sensor (like the 5D had when it came out) but a middle-of-the-road feature set.
A900: 24.6MP, 100% VF, In-Body IS, 5FPS
D700: 12MP, 8FPS, 51-point AF
5D2: $2699, 21MP, HD Video, 4FPS
Also it seems like the 5D2 will not have all 9 cross-type AF points like the 50D; only the center point will be cross-type. D700 has 15 cross-type AF points. And in 3 years, the couldn't improve the shutter-lag or blackout time.
Thrilled with the sensor. Underwhelmed with everything else. Just like the 50D release.
A900: 24.6MP, 100% VF, In-Body IS, 5FPS
D700: 12MP, 8FPS, 51-point AF
5D2: $2699, 21MP, HD Video, 4FPS
Also it seems like the 5D2 will not have all 9 cross-type AF points like the 50D; only the center point will be cross-type. D700 has 15 cross-type AF points. And in 3 years, the couldn't improve the shutter-lag or blackout time.
Thrilled with the sensor. Underwhelmed with everything else. Just like the 50D release.
Originally posted by: OdiN
It would be funny if it arrived DOA.
kinda like a dead gimp to a Sadist?
jamesbond007
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For those of you thinking about switching, is it safe to assume you don't have tens of thousands already in glass? Are you guys just the casual shooters? As a professional, I would not even consider switching to Nikon unless something really was wrong with all of the Canon bodies or if I had many defective ones or felt they were somehow unreliable. I love the 1D-Mark3s, 40D, 30D, and the 20D. They've all been great and have never given me issues. I just cannot even fathom trying to sell all the glass and Canon accessories just to get Nikon if Canon's offerings are still damn good...hell, I'd even have to get new attachments for my flash brackets! AHH!
That said, I think the 5DMK2 offers a solid upgrade from the original and at a nice price point. However, I'd personally still spring for the 1Ds3 for the full-size body (I cannot stand the half-height bodies), weather-sealing, dual card writes, and of course the AF capabilites, among other features. Yeah, it's expensive, but you can get them for around the $6,000 price point, new in box, if you know where to look...
Thanks for listening,
~Travis
That said, I think the 5DMK2 offers a solid upgrade from the original and at a nice price point. However, I'd personally still spring for the 1Ds3 for the full-size body (I cannot stand the half-height bodies), weather-sealing, dual card writes, and of course the AF capabilites, among other features. Yeah, it's expensive, but you can get them for around the $6,000 price point, new in box, if you know where to look...
Thanks for listening,
~Travis
For the first part, yes I think that's a safe assumption. I'm guessing the answer to the second part varies, though I imagine many would prefer to be called hobbyists or something.
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That is a relief...I frequently visit Fred Miranda, among other forums, and have to read about all the bickering and camp-switching all the time! It just drives me nuts and I cannot imagine going through all the hassle because they are tired of thier 1D-Mark3 lemon(s) or think that Nikon has a better lineup to offer. The beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder because I just, quite frankly, don't see it.
I know this is a computer-oriented forum and wanted to see/read about other pro/amateur's opinions.
I know this is a computer-oriented forum and wanted to see/read about other pro/amateur's opinions.
Originally posted by: Heidfirst
& don't forget the Sony (incl. a 35mm f1.4 option - stabilised of course
I've read numerous opinions of owners that the 35mm is vastly overpriced and needs to be updated, however.
I'll not know any time soon. If I'm spending close to a thousand on a lens in the near future, it's the 70-300G.
arrfep
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Well not tens of thousands...currently have 5D, 30D, 24-105L, 50 f1.4, 430EX. I would be okay switching because I got a good enough deal on the 5d/24-105 that I could sell it used and quite possibly end up profiting. The same goes for the 50mm because I got it used. The 30D I've had for 2.5 years so it's put its time in and I'd just eat the loss.
The thing about the 5DmkII vs. D700 is not that I think the 5DmkII is a bad camera, not by any stretch of the imagination. Just that Nikon might offer features that apply better to my shooting habits.
I've shot a couple weddings, and I love low-DOF and low-light stuff, which is why I love the 5D. It is perfect in many ways. I absolutely love the IQ, and in 4k clicks of the shutter I've never needed more resolution.
However, sometimes when I go out I like to just throw the 50mm on the body and strap it across my back. And, sometimes, I wish I had a flash. It's not feasible to bring one along. And, yes, I realize "a real photographer would never use pop-up flash," but sometimes even "real photographers" just want to get a snapshot with their friends, in the same night they want to take super awesome candle-lit candids.
I want to take my camera into questionable environments. I spent a few days in Great Smoky Mountain NP this summer and there were a few places I was afraid to take my 5D out because of splashing/dripping water. I don't think it's too much to ask for some weather-proofing, though it now appears that the mkII has gone a little further than the 40D/50D in that regard.
I shoot a lot of kids. Kids move fast. I shoot a lot in near dark. The 5D AF does not always like to work in either of these situations.
Also, shouldn't a camera that is touted as being supremely awesome in low-light have an IR focus assist? Nikons do. My Maxxum7 had one and it was awesome. For that matter, the Maxxum9 had a pop-up flash, and it was a "pro", fully weather-sealed camera.
So that's about it...I would have paid $2699 for the same 5D with full weatherproofing, 1D (or close) level AF, a pop-up flash, and an IR focus assist. Sorry for the rambling, I know I sound like a whiner. It's just that I usually do love Canon products, and I think they missed out on some things that a LOT of people wanted.
It's certainly 1 of the weaker lenses in the system (albeit that doesn't mean it's bad just not quite as good) & in the UK at least it's comparable in price to the Canon EF 35mm f1.4 L USM.Originally posted by: AndrewR
I've read numerous opinions of owners that the 35mm is vastly overpriced and needs to be updated, however.
Then there are plenty of rumours that there is a 35mm f1.4 ZA imminent & last time that I looked a 35mm f1.4 IS/VR wasn't available for Canon or Nikon
jamesbond007, there have been whole agencies switching from Canon to Nikon with all the gear changing that entails (& my understanding is that in at least some cases guys started by buying/paying for their own Nikon gear & once the rest saw the difference in results the move became official policy).
You only have to look at pictures of the last 2 Olympics to see a change in % of Canon & Nikon pro users.
Now, I'm not a pro just I guess a serious amateur (although I do get asked for photos, last time was just last weekend) but in $ terms I do have tens of thousands in gear at replacement prices. However, if I was to go Nikon (which I probably would before Canon) I might actually make a profit as I've always been pretty astute in my lens etc. purchases & I suspect that's also the case for 1 or 2 others here.
And 12800 you mean
But 12800 looks very usable. I could print 8x10's from that straight out of camera with no NR in post.
But 12800 looks very usable. I could print 8x10's from that straight out of camera with no NR in post.
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