All-New Fifth-Generation 2007 Lexus ES Sedan Redefines Entry Luxury Segment

[dawheat]

Originally posted by: NFS4

The problem is that the TL must be all things to all people. Toyota simply has the resources to split the segment in half with the ES handling the people hauler duty and the IS taking ver the sporty role. The TL splits the two right down the middle, but is not a better handler/performer than the IS or a quiet/comfy/put you to sleep long hauler like the ES.

Me personally, if I were going for a sporty handler, I'd go straight for the IS. I could are less about the people in the back seat. I can fit in the back of my 3s Hatch just fine, so the IS shouldn't be THAT bad.

True- though a surprisingly high number of people do want a car that is competent in all areas. The result being more TLs were sold than ES330 and IS300s combined in 2005. Of course the IS250/350s will sell a heck of a lot more with the model revision, but the truth is a lot of people want a 5 person, luxury car that's reasonably sporting.

And no the rear in the IS isn't BAD, but it is much tighter than the ES/TL/3-series/C-class - certainly not somewhere you'd want an adult to spend more than an hour or so in.

 

[MikeMike]

as said over at the TCL

i dont want to feel like im fisting a vagina when im going to change the radio.

 

[kevman]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: kevman

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: kevman

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: kevman
you're the douchebag if you think this is anything more then a tyota camry with a tux.

Have you ever owned a Lexus?

nope, just two infiniti's and a 750k house. I can certainly afford a lexus es if i wanted it , but why would I spend so much $$ on an overpriced camry. I'd rather spend it on an overpriced nissan.

What does a $750k house have to do with anything?😕

according to gatsby ppl that can't afford a lexus bash them, I'm merely showing that i can afford a lexus and I bash them.

750k house means SHACK where I live. What am I supposed to say then? $2.5 million house?

Didn't say that my house was huge, but it IS expensive. Thats NJ for you...