Alex Jones got spanked in court.

[woolfe9998]

Who will get custody of all the gay frogs???

Wrong court. That's a family court issue.

 

[fskimospy]

The government is not responsible for enforcing civil judgments. It's the plaintiffs who must enforce the judgment. In that regard, they have a variety of tools: attaching bank accounts, liening real property, garnishing wages, etc. With no statute of limitations.

It really depends on how aggressive they want to be. I'm assuming here the plaintiff's attorneys are paid a percentage of what is recovered, so that is good incentive for them to be aggressive. But Jones and his companies are most likely going into Chapter 7, so the bankruptcy court is going to oversee this. The businesses will certainly have all their assets liquidated in that process.

I am of course no lawyer but it strikes me as unlikely that Jones can avoid this judgment by declaring bankruptcy and then essentially starting a new infowars. I would think the courts are smart enough to see through that.

 

[dank69]

Apparently these are not dischargeable in bankruptcy?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/attorney-sandy-hook-families-nearly-1-billion-alex-jones-owes-very-likely-to-go-up-074048575.html

 

[woolfe9998]

Apparently these are not dischargeable in bankruptcy?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/attorney-sandy-hook-families-nearly-1-billion-alex-jones-owes-very-likely-to-go-up-074048575.html

You're right, I had completely forgotten about that - civil damages based on intentional misconduct are non-dischargeable. Which essentially means these plaintiffs can go after Jones until his dying day. That includes gofundme and any other revenue sources.

He won't be able to survive without finding a way to hide assets. He better not be caught or he'll go to jail.

First order of business with enforcing judgments is to call Jones in for an Order of Examination ("OEX") where he has to testify to the amount, type and location of all his assets, and bring in documents like account statements and property deeds. He lies about anything in that proceeding, he's on the hook for perjury and contempt.

Also, this judgment may well increase if the judge decides for punitive damages. This was for compensatories only. Not that it matters since Jones will never be able to pay all of the existing judgment.

 

[woolfe9998]

I am of course no lawyer but it strikes me as unlikely that Jones can avoid this judgment by declaring bankruptcy and then essentially starting a new infowars. I would think the courts are smart enough to see through that.

Chapter 7 is a total liquidation of all assets and distribution of everything except a basic living allowance to creditors. After which the debt is discharged. But it's irrelevant, as Dank just pointed out that this kind of court judgment is non-dischargeable, so he's truly fucked for good now.

 

[fskimospy]

You're right, I had completely forgotten about that - civil damages based on intentional misconduct are non-dischargeable. Which essentially means these plaintiffs can go after Jones until his dying day. That includes gofundme and any other revenue sources.

He won't be able to survive without finding a way to hide assets. He better not be caught or he'll go to jail.

First order of business with enforcing judgments is to call Jones in for an Order of Examination ("OEX") where he has to testify to the amount, type and location of all his assets, and bring in documents like account statements and property deeds. He lies about anything in that proceeding, he's on the hook for perjury and contempt.

Also, this judgment may well increase if the judge decides for punitive damages. This was for compensatories only. Not that it matters since Jones will never be able to pay all of the existing judgment.

This would also explain why the Goldman's are able to soak OJ after all these years.

 

[woolfe9998]

This would also explain why the Goldman's are able to soak OJ after all these years.

Yep, like I said, he screwed for good. He'll never be able to pay if off. They can just keep confiscating everything he acquires, including donations from supporters. So if he runs a gofundme or the equivalent, he'll be doing it to raise money for the plaintiffs. Without BK, there is no relief from debt in our legal system.

He should have settled before the verdicts. Plaintiffs did not expect a verdict that large, and probably would have settled in the 8 figure range. Now Jones has no leverage for settlement.

 

[K1052]

I love how everybody on the right who previously championed Trump's desire to "open up the libel laws" is talking about this verdict as a huge injustice. lol

Reaping and sowing etc.

 

[hal2kilo]

You're right, I had completely forgotten about that - civil damages based on intentional misconduct are non-dischargeable. Which essentially means these plaintiffs can go after Jones until his dying day. That includes gofundme and any other revenue sources.

He won't be able to survive without finding a way to hide assets. He better not be caught or he'll go to jail.

First order of business with enforcing judgments is to call Jones in for an Order of Examination ("OEX") where he has to testify to the amount, type and location of all his assets, and bring in documents like account statements and property deeds. He lies about anything in that proceeding, he's on the hook for perjury and contempt.

Also, this judgment may well increase if the judge decides for punitive damages. This was for compensatories only. Not that it matters since Jones will never be able to pay all of the existing judgment.

Got to learn the OJ lifestyle.

 

[Pens1566]

Got to learn the OJ lifestyle.

Get busted for burglary/theft and make it so the state has to cover your basic living costs? Smart move ...

 

[VRAMdemon]

I'm assuming a court should be able to garnish wages. Income from the grift will be harder, since the money doesn’t go to Jones but to one of his shell companies. It most likely will take time and a buttload of money to get at those. I'm also assuming Chasing down the money will be hard because the wealthy have written the rules and have knee-capped any actions that can usually be taken. Or made them so complicated that it will take years for the cases to come to a Final, No More Appeals, Cash Now point.

Jones isn’t the only person who’s made money off his sliminess. I'm wondering, can web service providers, etc., effectively be barred from carrying his bullshit by holding them liable for these damages? The big win here is that it establishes precedent that can be used to go after slimeballs with less deep pockets or who haven’t planned that far ahead.

 

[ivwshane]

The first thing they should take away from him is his domain and podcasting equipment. Then turn his domain into something factual and antithetical to Jones whole belief system.

 

[Lezunto]

Chapter 7 is personal bankruptcy. Chapter 13 is corporate liquidation. At any rate, The plaintiffs might get a few million.

I believe ivshane has a good solution: Strip Alex Jones of his identifiers and equipment and turn Info Wars on its head and so something good and truthful with it.

 

[eelw]

The Forrest thing they should take away from him is his domain and podcasting equipment. Then turn his domain into something factual and antithetical to Jones whole belief system.

I’d rather all the families take his money and make a big pile and make him stand there while they burn it up Joker style.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Did you see where this brain fart is doubling down on the dumb?

Alex Jones Ripped by Parkland Parent After Raising Florida, Texas Shootings

Jones said he won't stop asking "what really happened" at other school shootings after being ordered to pay nearly $1 billion in the Sandy Hook defamation suit.


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[rommelrommel]

Candidate to flee to Russia, I’m sure they’d love to get infowars up and running where the libtard communist courts can’t touch him for continuing to ruin the USA.

 

[Vic]

I love how everybody on the right who previously championed Trump's desire to "open up the libel laws" is talking about this verdict as a huge injustice. lol

Reaping and sowing etc.

As with everything else, they never intended that street to run both ways.

 

[trenchfoot]

As with everything else, they never intended that street to run both ways.

That right there says everything anyone would ever want and/or need to know about the present day Republican mindset and why that party should never ever have complete control of the gov't in its present state of being, especially so with the SCOTUS being ruled by a thoroughly corrupted conservative majority.

 

[MtnMan]

So who is more batshit bug fuck crazy, Jones or Trump. Should they both be in the same psyche ward?

 

[woolfe9998]

So who is more batshit bug fuck crazy, Jones or Trump. Should they both be in the same psyche ward?

Neither is "crazy" in the sense that is usually meant by that word. Neither of them even believes the batshit things they say. They are both liars, and pathological narcissists. Narcissists belong in prison, not a psyche ward.

 

[Brainonska511]

I love how everybody on the right who previously championed Trump's desire to "open up the libel laws" is talking about this verdict as a huge injustice. lol

Reaping and sowing etc.

They decided to fuck around a lot, so now they are doing a lot of finding out.

 

[soundforbjt]

This would also explain why the Goldman's are able to soak OJ after all these years.

How much have the Goldman’s been able to collect?

 

[iRONic]

In 1997, Simpson was ordered to pay the Goldman family $33.5 million after he lost a civil case for killing Ron Goldman.

As of February 2021, O.J has reportedly only paid the Goldman family $132,000, but Simpson’s debt has ballooned due to interest rates, and now he owes the Goldman family over $70 million. According to TMZ, his attorney says Simpson will complete the court order and that this is routine in the debtor collection process.

 

[Vic]

The important thing to consider here IMO is that Jones wouldn't have a media empire to lose if not for his defamation of the Sandy Hook families and others like them. Jones made a fortune by knowingly telling malicious lies, and our society is poorer because of him. Free speech is no defense to such actions nor was it ever intended to be so. These are ill-gotten gains.

 

[Thump553]

Here is an excellent summary of the various Alex Jones lawsuits, which gives a very concise and excellent summary of what went on in the Connecticut lawsuits, and to a lesser extent, the shenanigans Jones has pulled in his bankruptcy filings. I think perhaps they pulled a few punches as regarding the bankruptcies, but perhaps that is because some of what will be very relevant determinations haven't yet been made by the bankruptcy court. For example, the whole issue of whether these verdicts are nondischargeable in bankruptcy is not discussed, perhaps because that is highly dependent on what the CT courts rules in the next phase (currently scheduled for November).

All and all though, this is a very good watch especially if you want to understand what the ramifications of the CT litigation will likely be.

Cliff's-despite all his bluster, Jones is f*cked IMO.