Alex Jones got spanked in court.

[JEDI]

Where do you think Sandy Hook is?

Where the fuck do you think Newtown is??!?!

JFC…

Right?!?!?!

whoops.. was thinking NJ and the hurricane sandy

 

[Bitek]

whoops.. was thinking NJ and the hurricane sandy

Someone started their Friday early

 

[Vic]

I'm pretty certain that Jones is proper crazy. He has no idea how cause and effect works, he quite clearly doesn't understand how the real world works, he's in his fantasy land where reality is what he says it is.
It certainly doesn't excuse his continued behavior but the guy is fucking mental!

No, Jones isn't crazy. He's a cynical and unscrupulous con artist who eagerly takes advantage of people who are crazy like you described.

 

[Vic]

He is in fact trying to do this, but he will likely ultimately fail because the courts are wise to these sorts of shenanigans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2022/11/21/alex-jones-sandy-hook-lawsuit/

Business bankruptcies with newly created senior lien position loans to principals and insiders should be treated as criminal acts.

 

[Captante]

whoops.. was thinking NJ and the hurricane sandy

Sandy hit New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Massachusetts hard too not only New Jersey.




Somewhat off-topic but it's sobering to remember that Sandy WASN'T even actually a hurricane by the time she got here and we took some really serious damage just the same.

Imagine what a REALLY strong storm might do?

New England is about 25 years past due for a hit from a hurricane and a lot of people here have NO idea what that might look like today with global warming.

 

[Vic]

He's still was worth way more than believable and his contribution to society reflected.

Being a rw talk show/podcaster/utube channel/influencer nutjob has long been a lucrative profession. That's why there are so godamn many of them.

Real question is how is the market so large for this on the right? Just a waste of mental space and money

Confirmation bias outrage is a helluva drug.

 

[rommelrommel]

Why is the pillow guy a thing?

Gold coins

Survival seeds (remember 2008 Glen Beck?)

Ball tanners, T replacement supplements, military MREs, mail order Viagra, etc etc etc

Weird, dumb, paranoid useless crap for middle age white dudes

Hmm, my dick doesn’t work great. Could it be that I eat shit, drink booze to excess, haven’t exercised in 20 years, am 90 lbs overweight, and have been jerking it to anime porn for ages?

Nope! Alex says the gooberment is poisoning me and if I buy his super virility shield plus I’ll be rock hard from noon to night.

 

[Moonbeam]

Business bankruptcies with newly created senior lien position loans to principals and insiders should be treated as criminal acts.

Why aren't they?

 

[Thump553]

Given that Jones was knee deep in bankruptcy fraud

Business bankruptcies with newly created senior lien position loans to principals and insiders should be treated as criminal acts.

Bankruptcy law is quite complicated, much of it being designed to address that sort of scam (preference statute). Needless to say, the last time Jones filed bankruptcy he was engaged in all sorts of such stunts (including creating bogus debt to his parents), which from looking at it from the outside sure looked like (criminal) bankruptcy fraud to me. That bankruptcy was ultimately dismissed without those issues being addressed.

On the positive side, the Sandy Hook people seem to have top notch legal talent-they will go over everything with a fine tooth comb. Plus they have a lot of sympathy on their side and Jones is clearly a con man who has publically been outright contemptuous of the legal process. I see any close legal issues being decided against Jones.

On the negative side, Jones lives in Texas as I recall. Texas and Florida have, by far, the most debtor oriented exemption laws in the country (probably because both states traditionally have had high con man populations).

It should be interesting how this plays out.

 

[eelw]

Lol he’s claiming he’s only worth between $1-10 million

 

[Vic]

Why aren't they?

Because bankruptcy proceedings rarely if ever involve criminal investigations.

 

[Moonbeam]

Because bankruptcy proceedings rarely if ever involve criminal investigations.

I guess if that's the case I should why don't they. Is that the way it should be or are there reasons that wrongly hinder that.

 

[Thump553]

Because bankruptcy proceedings rarely if ever involve criminal investigations.

Not true. Bankruptcy crime is actively by the feds and frequently results in real jail time and other consequences. Bankruptcy is designed as a remedy of last resort. Those that criminally abuse the system see little tolerance by sentencing judges, regardless of their political views.

 

[hal2kilo]

Given that Jones was knee deep in bankruptcy fraud


Bankruptcy law is quite complicated, much of it being designed to address that sort of scam (preference statute). Needless to say, the last time Jones filed bankruptcy he was engaged in all sorts of such stunts (including creating bogus debt to his parents), which from looking at it from the outside sure looked like (criminal) bankruptcy fraud to me. That bankruptcy was ultimately dismissed without those issues being addressed.

On the positive side, the Sandy Hook people seem to have top notch legal talent-they will go over everything with a fine tooth comb. Plus they have a lot of sympathy on their side and Jones is clearly a con man who has publically been outright contemptuous of the legal process. I see any close legal issues being decided against Jones.

On the negative side, Jones lives in Texas as I recall. Texas and Florida have, by far, the most debtor oriented exemption laws in the country (probably because both states traditionally have had high con man populations).

It should be interesting how this plays out.

I knew Florida was deadbeat heaven, didn't realize Texas was the same way. Hmm, something in common.

 

[outriding]

Infowars already filed for bankruptcy earlier this year and failed. I doubt it will do any better round 2

 

[dank69]

Judge strips Alex Jones of bankruptcy protections for $1.5 billion Sandy Hook debt

Houston Judge Christopher M. López reportedly ended a stay preventing Sandy Hook families from collecting a $1.5 billion judgment against conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.In a ruling on Monday, López granted an order to lift a stay that was automatically put in place when Jones filed for Chapter...

www.rawstory.com

Proper fucked.

 

[JEDI]

I wonder how the above ruling affects this:

In Bankruptcy, Alex Jones Battles for $1.3M Salary:

Alex Jones Battles for a Bigger Salary

He asks judge to order Infowars' parent firm to go back to paying him $54K biweekly, up from $20K

www.newser.com

He asks judge to order Infowars' parent firm to go back to paying him $54K biweekly, up from $20K.


Same judge Lopez

 

[Thump553]

I wonder how the above ruling affects this:

In Bankruptcy, Alex Jones Battles for $1.3M Salary:

Alex Jones Battles for a Bigger Salary

He asks judge to order Infowars' parent firm to go back to paying him $54K biweekly, up from $20K

www.newser.com

He asks judge to order Infowars' parent firm to go back to paying him $54K biweekly, up from $20K.


Same judge Lopez

That's outrageous-being forced to somehow get by on a mere $520,000 annual salary (not counting his side hustles).

 

[Vic]

Judge strips Alex Jones of bankruptcy protections for $1.5 billion Sandy Hook debt

Houston Judge Christopher M. López reportedly ended a stay preventing Sandy Hook families from collecting a $1.5 billion judgment against conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.In a ruling on Monday, López granted an order to lift a stay that was automatically put in place when Jones filed for Chapter...

www.rawstory.com

Proper fucked.

Found out.

 

[cytg111]

Found out.

To a 10.

 

[Thump553]

Don't get excited about this lifting of the stay-it's a procedural matter. The Sandy Hook plaintiffs agreed not to try to collect their judgments for now. Basically the bankruptcy judge is permitting the parties to resolve the issue of whether there is a debt involved and if so how much via the court system(s) that originally handled it rather than retry those issues in bankruptcy court.

When the debt is finally determined then collection will be via bankruptcy court and procedure.

This sort of stay lifting is frequently done, both for efficiency and fairness.

On the positive side, if Jones is lying in this bankruptcy action anywhere near the extent he did in the previous one, then he is facing sanctions like the the bankruptcy being dismissed with prejudice and him being prosecuted for bankruptcy crimes.

 

[woolfe9998]

Jones is of course hiding his assets from collection. He's been doing it since before the verdicts came in. Transferring millions in assets to his wife, his friends, and all sorts of business entities with unknown owernship.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sandy-hook-families-fighting-alex-144630329.html

It is illegal to transfers assets in an attemp to evade creditors. The plaintiffs have filed a claim in the BK court for violation of the Fraudulent Transfers Act. But his assets are very tricky to trace.

 

[shortylickens]

Didnt Bernie Madoff actually get away with hiding some of his money and property? Not all of it, but some.

 

[Pens1566]

Jones is of course hiding his assets from collection. He's been doing it since before the verdicts came in. Transferring millions in assets to his wife, his friends, and all sorts of business entities with unknown owernship.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sandy-hook-families-fighting-alex-144630329.html

It is illegal to transfers assets in an attemp to evade creditors. The plaintiffs have filed a claim in the BK court for violation of the Fraudulent Transfers Act. But his assets are very tricky to trace.

But this puts him in potential criminal danger, correct?

 

[dank69]

But this puts him in potential criminal danger, correct?

it fucking better. I read a few weeks ago he was asking for a $500,000/yr "allowance" or whatever they call the amount he is allowed to live on before they take everything else. Even that is preposterous. This bitch needs to be eating dirt for the rest of his life.