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Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: rise
fuck drinking. nobody likes a drunk, not even other drunks. they just want to hang around and get fucked up with someone else.
Ok, Sir Buzz Killington. You know, people usually get drunk with their friends.
I didn't.
I drank alone 95% of the time. I used the 5% of the time I drank with others to justify 100% of my drinking.
Originally posted by: JohnCU
i survived the weekend, woo hoo. feels good to remember the football scores. hah.
Originally posted by: JohnCU
i survived the weekend, woo hoo. feels good to remember the football scores. hah.
Originally posted by: bobdole369
I thought that I was an alcoholic. It runs in my family. What it took was some love from my current GF to realize that I probably shouldn't continue down this path. I went to a couple meetings, found a bit of like-minded folks there, but what I didn't find was craving booze. I never really did. I still don't. My GF asked me to stop and I did. I found the more meetings I went to the farther away from what I actually felt was going on in those meetings. For an alcoholic - its like trying to quit smoking. I never went to work drunk, I did drink TO get drunk, but I could always say - hey thats enough.
In the end I realized that alcoholism is something that is far worse than what I have.
I spent a good couple years essentially booze-free and never looked back. Take last night for instance. I had a single 175ml airline bottle of rose wine after dinner. I've had a ton of liquor in the house for forever. I don't think about it. I don't crave it, I don't get angry anymore and go drink it to make me feel better.
Just some thoughts from a non-alcoholic.
Originally posted by: bobdole369
I thought that I was an alcoholic. It runs in my family. What it took was some love from my current GF to realize that I probably shouldn't continue down this path. I went to a couple meetings, found a bit of like-minded folks there, but what I didn't find was craving booze. I never really did. I still don't. My GF asked me to stop and I did. I found the more meetings I went to the farther away from what I actually felt was going on in those meetings. For an alcoholic - its like trying to quit smoking. I never went to work drunk, I did drink TO get drunk, but I could always say - hey thats enough.
In the end I realized that alcoholism is something that is far worse than what I have.
I spent a good couple years essentially booze-free and never looked back. Take last night for instance. I had a single 175ml airline bottle of rose wine after dinner. I've had a ton of liquor in the house for forever. I don't think about it. I don't crave it, I don't get angry anymore and go drink it to make me feel better.
Just some thoughts from a non-alcoholic.
Originally posted by: hungfarover
Originally posted by: JohnCU
i survived the weekend, woo hoo. feels good to remember the football scores. hah.
I thought you were going to rehab...
Originally posted by: hungfarover
Originally posted by: JohnCU
i survived the weekend, woo hoo. feels good to remember the football scores. hah.
I thought you were going to rehab...
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: hungfarover
Originally posted by: JohnCU
i survived the weekend, woo hoo. feels good to remember the football scores. hah.
I thought you were going to rehab...
"rehab" is nearly unheard of these days. The whole 28 day rehab is reserved for movie stars and people who don't rely on insurance.
If they give you a 3 day detox, you are doing well. You actually have to meet certain conditions to even get that.
good man, ya know i love yta!!1Originally posted by: JohnCU
i survived the weekend, woo hoo. feels good to remember the football scores. hah.
Originally posted by: Amused
Very good post. And something that people need to read.
What I just went through with a friend opened my eyes to it and made it personal.
A girl I have been involved with on and off was "the party girl" and always the life of the party.
She didn't drink daily and thought because of this, she didn't have a problem. But she was wrong.
She would go out for happy hour, and almost every time end up drinking until 1 or 3 in the morning. She would do this only one or two days a week.
But this led to many problems. Spending the night by the toilet or wetting the bed, professional embarrassment and social problems.
One day the movie "Less than Zero" came on and I told her what a deep message the movie had and got her to watch it... and watching it FINALLY made her have an epiphany. She has been dry for 3 months now. After 20+ years of the same pattern of binge drinking she is, for the first time, not destroying her mind and body on a weekly basis.
Binge drinking with little control after the first one or two drinks IS alcoholism. It IS the inability to moderate. And if you cannot moderate a thing, you MUST stop if your health and social life mean anything to you. It doesn't matter if you can control whether or not you have that first drink. What happenes after that first drink is what matters.
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Amused
Very good post. And something that people need to read.
What I just went through with a friend opened my eyes to it and made it personal.
A girl I have been involved with on and off was "the party girl" and always the life of the party.
She didn't drink daily and thought because of this, she didn't have a problem. But she was wrong.
She would go out for happy hour, and almost every time end up drinking until 1 or 3 in the morning. She would do this only one or two days a week.
But this led to many problems. Spending the night by the toilet or wetting the bed, professional embarrassment and social problems.
One day the movie "Less than Zero" came on and I told her what a deep message the movie had and got her to watch it... and watching it FINALLY made her have an epiphany. She has been dry for 3 months now. After 20+ years of the same pattern of binge drinking she is, for the first time, not destroying her mind and body on a weekly basis.
Binge drinking with little control after the first one or two drinks IS alcoholism. It IS the inability to moderate. And if you cannot moderate a thing, you MUST stop if your health and social life mean anything to you. It doesn't matter if you can control whether or not you have that first drink. What happenes after that first drink is what matters.
Wow, great post.
Originally posted by: Amused
Wow! I thought I was going to be bashed for liking "Less than Zero."
The problem with the movie, beyond it's being very dated and stylized, is that non-addicts just can't get it. It frustrates them because they cannot understand the nature of addiction itself.
But show it to an addict, and they'll instantly associate with Downey's character.
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: Amused
Wow! I thought I was going to be bashed for liking "Less than Zero."
The problem with the movie, beyond it's being very dated and stylized, is that non-addicts just can't get it. It frustrates them because they cannot understand the nature of addiction itself.
But show it to an addict, and they'll instantly associate with Downey's character.
another good one is "leaving las vegas" and "the lost weekend", the lost weekend is a bit older (from the 50s) but its a great movie about a guy struggling with alcoholism.
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Does anyone dislike the taste of hard alcohol? Honestly I've never developed a huge taste for it. I can drink a G&T or Vodka Tonic but really I would much rather just have a beer.
I can drink bourbon with coke or ginger ale as long as it's not too strong, but generally I'm with you. I get a much greater pleasure sucking back a cold lager than hard liquor.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: Amused
Wow! I thought I was going to be bashed for liking "Less than Zero."
The problem with the movie, beyond it's being very dated and stylized, is that non-addicts just can't get it. It frustrates them because they cannot understand the nature of addiction itself.
But show it to an addict, and they'll instantly associate with Downey's character.
another good one is "leaving las vegas" and "the lost weekend", the lost weekend is a bit older (from the 50s) but its a great movie about a guy struggling with alcoholism.
I haven't seen those. I'll have to check them out. Thanks!
I think Less than Zero had an effect because we both grew up at that time and the whole style of the movie is kinda nostalgic to us.![]()
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Does anyone dislike the taste of hard alcohol? Honestly I've never developed a huge taste for it. I can drink a G&T or Vodka Tonic but really I would much rather just have a beer.
I can drink bourbon with coke or ginger ale as long as it's not too strong, but generally I'm with you. I get a much greater pleasure sucking back a cold lager than hard liquor.
I used to drink vodka with impunity, but got sick of it after awhile and now I just don't care for it, or even the smell of it. Except for in a white russian .. mmm. Tequila I've never cared for, the taste or the smell, ugh. Awful stuff. Now if I'm drinking liquor, it's whiskey. I'd say I drink beer more often than hard liquor though, a good stout, or trappist ale.. mm.
Originally posted by: zinfamous
So did rise's thread disappear into yet another mod-unapproved dimension of intolerance?
It's not even in my list of recently participated threads.
