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Lifer
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..considering all the drunks around and about and behind the wheel it's prob.a good idea not to start them young. Your level of restraint and up bringing is increasingly rare.
 

FeuerFrei

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I guess the point is you wouldn't want your kids to develop a taste for alcohol. No one wants their kids picking up bad habits.
Come on, it's wise to be cautious, can't you admit that?
Granted, no one will be buzzing from the tidbit you slip in the dessert.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Deeko
I'm not commenting on whether or not I think it's "right" for kids to eat something like that.

However, from the TV show's perspective...dude, it's illegal for children to consume alcohol, and the show is covering their ass by reminding you of that. Pretty simple.

No it isn't (everywhere). I do believe in most states, there is an exception for parents and children (not child guests, their own kids) in their home.

I've never heard that before.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: Anubis
no its definitly a bit WTF

Ben & Jerries can no longer sell the "White Russian" flavor of ice cream in stores because it contains Kahlua, and people under 21 might buy it

By the same logic, we shouldn't sell extract. Mint extract is 90% alcohol (my friends put it in their beer sometimes at my house :) ).

Listerine has a decent amount of alcohol in it too.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Deeko
I'm not commenting on whether or not I think it's "right" for kids to eat something like that.

However, from the TV show's perspective...dude, it's illegal for children to consume alcohol, and the show is covering their ass by reminding you of that. Pretty simple.

No it isn't (everywhere). I do believe in most states, there is an exception for parents and children (not child guests, their own kids) in their home.

I've never heard that before.

I've heard it a number of times, but that doesn't make it true, of course.
 

biggestmuff

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It's Food TV's lawyers. They make it a big deal when it really isn't. Same goes for the washing of the hands on the same network.
 

Colt45

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There's way too many puritans stateside.

Funny how in the countries I've been with low or no age to buy liquor, the kids didn't seem to go insane when they got a hold of it. Because they've been exposed to it their whole lives, there isn't really anything "bad" and exciting about it.



I know I used to drink a lot more before it was legal for me to do so, than i do now.
 

jjones

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It is really too bad that this "think of the children" attitude is so pervasive now. The mad moms and those that pander to them have really ruined society.

I spent a lot of time catching up with my father when I visited him a week ago and this was one of the topics that came up. Alcohol in general, letting children try alcohol, and cooking with alcohol. My father's parents gave him alcohol as a child and cooked with alcohol, my parents did the same when I was growing up, and now I do the same with my daughter. No harm done letting kids try it once in a while and cooking with alcohol definately improves the cuisine.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: Deeko
I'm not commenting on whether or not I think it's "right" for kids to eat something like that.

However, from the TV show's perspective...dude, it's illegal for children to consume alcohol, and the show is covering their ass by reminding you of that. Pretty simple.

I don't think they're worried about what's legal and what's illegal. I think they're worried about backlash from overzealous, nothing better to do than complain organizations such as MADD. Think about it: A lot of frostings aren't cooked. They're made with real vanilla extract. 1 tsp of vanilla extract (somewhere around 90% alcohol) adds about as much alcohol as a shot of gran marnier. The reason is that there are overzealous idiots who are going to think "gran marnier??! That's liquor! Think of the kids! This will turn them into drunk-driving raging alcoholics." They can't put things into perspective.
 

Bryophyte

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Apr 25, 2001
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How could you stand to watch that show, anyway? It's the worst one on that channel. :barf;
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It's because this country was founded and is run by prudes.

Please don't think for a minute that the founding fathers of this country were the uptight religious puritan prudes we have today. In fact, for their time they were very liberal and forward thinking.

Liberal by the current definition doesn't fit either, really. They were very libertarian. Back then it was ok to not have a position on every aspect of life.

Yep, rather sad that "liberal" has been hijacked by socialists in the last 60 years when it once meant libertarian.

However, in their time they were liberal. And in the classical sense, so am I.

You can include me there too. Hell, republican didn't used to have the connotation that it does now :)

Yep, true. Very true.
 

wheresmybacon

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The only reason she says that is because some asshole will dump an entire bottle of GM on the berries, feed it to their kid, and the kid will get alcohol poisoning or something. If she doesn't say it, Food Network will get sued.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: Anubis
no its definitly a bit WTF

Ben & Jerries can no longer sell the "White Russian" flavor of ice cream in stores because it contains Kahlua, and people under 21 might buy it

By the same logic, we shouldn't sell extract. Mint extract is 90% alcohol (my friends put it in their beer sometimes at my house :) ).

vanilla extract is, per the FDA, at least 35% alcohol iirc

im not going to be so uptight with my kids. i enjoy wine (less often: beer) and use liquors often enough when i cook. im more likely to teach them to drink responsibly than to not drink

 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: Anubis
no its definitly a bit WTF

Ben & Jerries can no longer sell the "White Russian" flavor of ice cream in stores because it contains Kahlua, and people under 21 might buy it

By the same logic, we shouldn't sell extract. Mint extract is 90% alcohol (my friends put it in their beer sometimes at my house :) ).

vanilla extract is, per the FDA, at least 35% alcohol iirc

im not going to be so uptight with my kids. i enjoy wine (less often: beer) and use liquors often enough when i cook. im more likely to teach them to drink responsibly than to not drink

Funny you say that. Growing up in Italian culture, and even now still, I get berated by my dad as a "drunk" if I so much as crack open a beer :) I could have a bottle of wine with dinner and not hear a similar remark!

I don't have kids yet, but I'm hoping I have the wisdom to teach them about alcohol the way my parents did, so that they don't become drunks due to some failing on my part. I want them to know that moderate intake of alcohol is okay, but abusing it is not. Even now when I drink, I don't lose my ability to make good decisions. My "autopilot" still tells me not to get in the car, to take a cab or walk, to stop drinking before I get stupid, etc. I wish I could pinpoint how I learned all of it, or at least that my parents can help me learn that for teaching my kids that in the future.

Also, by your last sentence, I can see that you also watch Good Eats :)
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: MaxDepth
You just admitted to watching a foodtv show and one by Sandra Lee. (Okay, granted she looks like an older version of the cheerleader I dated in high school, who only did it in the butt because she wanted to remain a "virgin.")

Anyway...

Either hand over your ManCard now or go buy liquor for some underage kids.

they used to have *good* shows (well, good eats is still on) regularly, i learned a lot about cooking from that channel.

but never that lousy show. its been a long time since i watched foodnetwork on a regular basis.

Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: Anubis
no its definitly a bit WTF

Ben & Jerries can no longer sell the "White Russian" flavor of ice cream in stores because it contains Kahlua, and people under 21 might buy it

By the same logic, we shouldn't sell extract. Mint extract is 90% alcohol (my friends put it in their beer sometimes at my house :) ).

vanilla extract is, per the FDA, at least 35% alcohol iirc

im not going to be so uptight with my kids. i enjoy wine (less often: beer) and use liquors often enough when i cook. im more likely to teach them to drink responsibly than to not drink

Funny you say that. Growing up in Italian culture, and even now still, I get berated by my dad as a "drunk" if I so much as crack open a beer :) I could have a bottle of wine with dinner and not hear a similar remark!

Also, by your last sentence, I can see that you also watch Good Eats :)

i havent seen that show in a long time, but its surely one of the best that channel has ever had (granted, brown is quirky, but he does a good job)

i love his books though. wonderful, wonderful books.
 

arrfep

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Lol. I'm a first generation American also, my mom is from Poland and my father is from Sicily. Every summer, a couple times a week, my mom would make fruit salad. Dice some strawberries, melon, bananas, and throw in some grapes. Sprinkle with sugar and douse in Amaretto. LOVED it as a kid.
 

Auryg

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Alcohol affects young brains the most. That's not to say that it was enough to do any damage, but you can't blame the woman for giving out the warning...although it should be obvious. How does that quote go..."Think of someone you know with average intellgence. Now think that 50% of people are more stupid than them."

Something like that, anyways.
 

XZeroII

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The point is that some people may not realize that she is using alcohol so she pointed it out. There was nothing wrong with what she did, she was just providing information. Anything with more than the smallest amount of alcohol is generally considered not for kids. Especially Grand Marinier since it's 90 proof, I think.
 

PlasmaBomb

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Originally posted by: Anubis
no its definitly a bit WTF

Ben & Jerries can no longer sell the "White Russian" flavor of ice cream in stores because it contains Kahlua, and people under 21 might buy it

:facepalm;

Quick ban mouthwash!
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
The point is that some people may not realize that she is using alcohol so she pointed it out. There was nothing wrong with what she did, she was just providing information. Anything with more than the smallest amount of alcohol is generally considered not for kids. Especially Grand Marinier since it's 90 proof, I think.

That's different than stating that it just contains alcohol, even if the use of gran marnier should be self evident -- if not at viewing, but upon purchasing the product, a responsible parent would realize it's an alcoholic beverage and be able to decide accordingly.

I'm fine with responsible choices, and I'm not dictating what those should be. It's the general attitude and presumption that annoys me.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Bah, I hung out in peanut bars and had my first beer at age 8. I'm not a drunk. Somebody pass me a beer.
 

IEC

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: Anubis
no its definitly a bit WTF

Ben & Jerries can no longer sell the "White Russian" flavor of ice cream in stores because it contains Kahlua, and people under 21 might buy it

By the same logic, we shouldn't sell extract. Mint extract is 90% alcohol (my friends put it in their beer sometimes at my house :) ).

And we drank vanilla extract in middle school ;)

I was just thinking that. Isn't it like 50-70% alc/vol?
 

Scarpozzi

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No....it's because Sandra Lee is worthless. Even Rachel Ray has more to offer.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: Anubis
no its definitly a bit WTF

Ben & Jerries can no longer sell the "White Russian" flavor of ice cream in stores because it contains Kahlua, and people under 21 might buy it

By the same logic, we shouldn't sell extract. Mint extract is 90% alcohol (my friends put it in their beer sometimes at my house :) ).

And we drank vanilla extract in middle school ;)

I was just thinking that. Isn't it like 50-70% alc/vol?

Yeah, tastes a bit like spiced rum.
 

Zedtom

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Sandra Lee and her producers are just trying to cover their asses with the morality brigade. It's almost as stupid as these cops at sobriety checkpoints telling reporters that they sniff for alcohol because after all, if you had as little as one drink, you're probably drunk.