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Alabama Governor offends just about every religion that's not Christianity.

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Zargon said:
fair enough, however, when you elect someone, you expect them to govern as a robot? its all a package.

better him to speak about it publicly, then hide it. And again, talking is talking, its when it becomes legislating it that it becomes a problem, and not until then.
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Uhh, that govern as a robot bit is a strawman. I expect an elected official to govern as fair and level as any good elected official should. What an elected official privately believes on their own should be kept private. Period.

And why is your comment a strawman? Let me point it out. I have plenty of things I believe and do that have no bearing at all on the job I do day to day (writing software). I do not bring them into my work and I still get my work done exceptionally well. I expect no less of anyone else regardless of what their "complete" package consists of. When you get hired for a job then you do that job and keep everything else out of it. That is my view.
 
sandorski said:
It certainly is less controversial that way, but not off limits for discussion or criticism. Shows a fundamental mindset that may affect his decisions. It may not, but it's best to know and keep a watch on whether it does.
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🙄

all christians are the exact same. unlike all those diverse atheist/agnostics

Its pretty ignorant to assert that because he claims to be a christian he has some fundemental mindset you can pigeonhole him in.
 
sandorski said:
A Politician says something in Public, albeit to a select special interest group, and he gets criticized for it as a potential Conflict of Interest upon Policy, yet everyone should just stop criticizing and move along.
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That been pretty much the line when people have criticized Obama about his anti-gun rhetoric when speaking to particular groups, when the pro-gunners get uptight about his statements the loony left just tells them "It was to a particular group, he isn't going to do anything for real". So on that note, "the guy was at a church, he isn't going to do anything for real".
 
HumblePie said:
Uhh, that govern as a robot bit is a strawman. I expect an elected official to govern as fair and level as any good elected official should. What an elected official privately believes on their own should be kept private. Period.

And why is your comment a strawman? Let me point it out. I have plenty of things I believe and do that have no bearing at all on the job I do day to day (writing software). I do not bring them into my work and I still get my work done exceptionally well. I expect no less of anyone else regardless of what their "complete" package consists of. When you get hired for a job then you do that job and keep everything else out of it. That is my view.
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but your job isnt politics.

which is 90% judgement calls, apparantly. so his personal beleifs are what got him elected man, sorry to say, but thats how it is.

My beliefs on god dont affect how I update my servers, thats way easier than say, how it affects my view on murder or abortion.

completely different

but yes it was a bit of a strawman 🙂 but I tend to try and make somepoints obviously silly, otherwise it sucks having these debates
 
Zargon said:
but your job isnt politics.

which is 90% judgement calls, apparantly. so his personal beleifs are what got him elected man, sorry to say, but thats how it is.
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When going by your judgment would have you violate the Constitution, there are issues.

The US Constitution does not allow for an establishment of a state religion. For a government agency to treat all but Fundamentalist Christians as second-class citizens establishes a religion.


Tristicus said:
Look, anything against Christianity is fine with liberals. However, when you start promoting it, unless it is Islam, then the hate comes out.
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A state religion is forbidden. But Christianity has held the privileged position of a state religion. Removing Christianity from its privileged position and putting it in with the rest of the garbage != hate or special treatment. It gets the same treatment as any other religion would in its place.
But you Fundies are so stupid that all you can see are relative changes, not the larger context in which their absolute positions were different to start with. We can't remove Islam or Buddhism or Shintoism from the US government because they're not in there to remove. But promotion of Christianity IS in there to remove.
 
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Yawn - yet another religion claims only their way is the way to salvation.

Lots of flavors to brainwash the billions of sheep out there.
 
DominionSeraph said:
When going by your judgment would have you violate the Constitution, there are issues.

The US Constitution does not allow for an establishment of a state religion. For a government agency to treat all but Fundamentalist Christians as second-class citizens establishes a religion.




A state religion is forbidden. But Christianity has held the privileged position of a state religion. Removing Christianity from its privileged position and putting it in with the rest of the garbage != hate or special treatment. It gets the same treatment as any other religion would in its place.
But you Fundies are so stupid that all you can see are relative changes, not the larger context in which their absolute positions were different to start with. We can't remove Islam or Buddhism or Shintoism from the US government because they're not in there to remove. But promotion of Christianity IS in there to remove.
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where did he say he was going to treat them as second class citizens?

he said he cant call them his brother or sister, as in brother or sister in christ. I'm not even close to a funde either, but nice try. I do however understand how most churches work having been raised in one and know the lingo.

whereas you obviously dont


violation of constitution not found

If he were jewish, bhuddist, ETC and may similar statements I would also be completely unoffended. Why would I care that a member of a religion said he would like it if I was member of his. Inside that religion they see it as a great thing.

until they try to force it, I dont care. its still then their religion

no one is showing up telling me about how I did or didnt go to church. mnonchristians arent going to jail or have tougher fines/sentences. state religion not found.


sandorksi: yes the may makes it better, he is certainly preposed to certain belief sets,


there so many more rights violations going on in the US right now, that its sad how much of a stir this little 'speech' at a church is getting


dainthomas said:
😎
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:thumbsup:
 
Throckmorton said:
There's a reason he included that paragraph about Christians being his brothers and sisters, and non-Christians not being his brothers and sisters. The question is, what is that reason?
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He did it to ensure people know he's Christian. Time for you to crucify him.
 
Guys, the South has some of the lowest combined IQ's in the universe. Does it matter what their retarded governor has to say?
 
Throckmorton said:
Is this a joke?
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why would it be a joke?

many things arent illegal/unconstitutional until you do them

this isnt minority report, he can want all day, its not wrong until he does it.

I already explained what the likely meaning of the brother/sister thing is, so go read my post again, think about what I posted.

I said, it would be wrong, if he tries to legislate changes that force religion on people

why is that something you would question? thats the basis of separation of church and state?
 
zinfamous said:
Highest concentration of PhDs in the nation, and highest PhD+MD per capita in the world, in only one tiny spot of the "lowly" South?

I think you have misspoken, son

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/boston/allston_brighton/articles/2011/01/03/the_next_big_thing/
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That's interesting, as an Englishman, i've always heard that people from the South of America are stupid. Evidently that's a mis-conception! Perhaps this has arisen from the south being predominantly Christian which does lead to the notion of stupidity.
 
neckarb said:
That's interesting, as an Englishman, i've always heard that people from the South of America are stupid. Evidently that's a mis-conception! Perhaps this has arisen from the south being predominantly Christian which does lead to the notion of stupidity.
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kinda like how we all think you brits are daft cows with bad teeth.

the only idiots are ones that believe blanket statements like that 😉
 
Zargon said:
kinda like how we all think you brits are daft cows with bad teeth.

the only idiots are ones that believe blanket statements like that 😉
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I was saying that evidentially that's not the case, why be offensive? Prick.

I'm English
 
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