Al Gore: greatest person in history?

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Syringer

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: grohl
Academy Award winner - what a joke. A stupid liberal organization giving award to another stupid liberal about a bunch of over-hyped nonsense.

What he is, is a stuffed shirt that was so "great" that he couldn't win the White House.

Define over-hyped nonsense.
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: grohl
Academy Award winner - what a joke. A stupid liberal organization giving award to another stupid liberal about a bunch of over-hyped nonsense.

What he is, is a stuffed shirt that was so "great" that he couldn't win the White House.

Actually the American people were so stupid as to not put him in the White House.

 

her209

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Oct 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: LoKe
Perhaps Mr. Johnson's organization would care to compare Al Gore's carbon footprint to that of others with 10,000 square foot homes.

That's some really poor logic there.

That's like someone saying that their 8,000 lb mega-SUV gets better gas mileage than most other 8,000 lb mega-SUVs, therefore making them "environmentally conscious".

Sure, his 10,000 sq ft home has a lower footprint than most other 10,000 sq foot homes, but why does an environmentalist want or need a house that large?

Should we give up all of our comforts for the sake of the planet?

You don't suggest that an environmentalist living in a normal sized house instead of an energy-guzzling 10,000 sq ft mansion is "giving up all of his comforts", do you?

If someone is going to make something their cause, they better be prepared to lead by example. Maybe I should become an activist for cars with better fuel economy. I can sell my 30 mpg Mazda Protege and buy a 6 mpg Hummer. Or maybe I'll become a vegan activist. If you're interested in my ideas you can find me at Outback Steakhouse. I'll be protesting the lack of butter on my Porterhouse.

What if I support gay marriage? Should I marry someone of the same sex?
 

Harabec

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Oct 15, 2005
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Meh. The world is far too big for any one man to be considered "the greatest" in human history.
 

Kirby

Lifer
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He hasn't done as much, but I guarantee Warren Buffet will make a bigger impact on history than manbearpig will.
 
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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: LoKe
Perhaps Mr. Johnson's organization would care to compare Al Gore's carbon footprint to that of others with 10,000 square foot homes.

That's some really poor logic there.

That's like someone saying that their 8,000 lb mega-SUV gets better gas mileage than most other 8,000 lb mega-SUVs, therefore making them "environmentally conscious".

Sure, his 10,000 sq ft home has a lower footprint than most other 10,000 sq foot homes, but why does an environmentalist want or need a house that large?

Should we give up all of our comforts for the sake of the planet?

You don't suggest that an environmentalist living in a normal sized house instead of an energy-guzzling 10,000 sq ft mansion is "giving up all of his comforts", do you?

If someone is going to make something their cause, they better be prepared to lead by example. Maybe I should become an activist for cars with better fuel economy. I can sell my 30 mpg Mazda Protege and buy a 6 mpg Hummer. Or maybe I'll become a vegan activist. If you're interested in my ideas you can find me at Outback Steakhouse. I'll be protesting the lack of butter on my Porterhouse.

What if I support gay marriage? Should I marry someone of the same sex?

check and mate sir. :D
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: LoKe
Perhaps Mr. Johnson's organization would care to compare Al Gore's carbon footprint to that of others with 10,000 square foot homes.

That's some really poor logic there.

That's like someone saying that their 8,000 lb mega-SUV gets better gas mileage than most other 8,000 lb mega-SUVs, therefore making them "environmentally conscious".

Sure, his 10,000 sq ft home has a lower footprint than most other 10,000 sq foot homes, but why does an environmentalist want or need a house that large?

Should we give up all of our comforts for the sake of the planet?

You don't suggest that an environmentalist living in a normal sized house instead of an energy-guzzling 10,000 sq ft mansion is "giving up all of his comforts", do you?

If someone is going to make something their cause, they better be prepared to lead by example. Maybe I should become an activist for cars with better fuel economy. I can sell my 30 mpg Mazda Protege and buy a 6 mpg Hummer. Or maybe I'll become a vegan activist. If you're interested in my ideas you can find me at Outback Steakhouse. I'll be protesting the lack of butter on my Porterhouse.

What if I support gay marriage? Should I marry someone of the same sex?

Apple, meet oranges... a more appropriate analogy would be speaking in public in favor of gay marriage while secretly voting against it at every election.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: grohl
Academy Award winner - what a joke. A stupid liberal organization giving award to another stupid liberal about a bunch of over-hyped nonsense.

What he is, is a stuffed shirt that was so "great" that he couldn't win the White House.


sucks, huh? ths liberal world hates you so much...you'd be better off emo-ing yourself I suppose.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: grohl
Academy Award winner - what a joke. A stupid liberal organization giving award to another stupid liberal about a bunch of over-hyped nonsense.

What he is, is a stuffed shirt that was so "great" that he couldn't win the White House.

Actually the American people were so stupid as to not put him in the White House.


actually the American people DID put him in the White House. The Supreme Court, however--did not agree.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: LoKe
Perhaps Mr. Johnson's organization would care to compare Al Gore's carbon footprint to that of others with 10,000 square foot homes.

That's some really poor logic there.

That's like someone saying that their 8,000 lb mega-SUV gets better gas mileage than most other 8,000 lb mega-SUVs, therefore making them "environmentally conscious".

Sure, his 10,000 sq ft home has a lower footprint than most other 10,000 sq foot homes, but why does an environmentalist want or need a house that large?

Should we give up all of our comforts for the sake of the planet?

You don't suggest that an environmentalist living in a normal sized house instead of an energy-guzzling 10,000 sq ft mansion is "giving up all of his comforts", do you?

If someone is going to make something their cause, they better be prepared to lead by example. Maybe I should become an activist for cars with better fuel economy. I can sell my 30 mpg Mazda Protege and buy a 6 mpg Hummer. Or maybe I'll become a vegan activist. If you're interested in my ideas you can find me at Outback Steakhouse. I'll be protesting the lack of butter on my Porterhouse.

What if I support gay marriage? Should I marry someone of the same sex?

While sounding clever on the surface, that analogy does not work. Gay marriage and heterosexual marriage don't have to be at odds. On the other hand, promoting a vegan society and eating a juicy steak are mutually exclusive.

Gay marriage vs. Hetero marriage can be an "AND",

but

Vegan society vs. meat eating society has to be an "OR" due to the definition of "vegan".

(And don't try to throw in the ridiculous possibility that the vegan activist is just campaigning for the right to eat plants. That's already legal)
 

TheChort

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May 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: LoKe
Perhaps Mr. Johnson's organization would care to compare Al Gore's carbon footprint to that of others with 10,000 square foot homes.

That's some really poor logic there.

That's like someone saying that their 8,000 lb mega-SUV gets better gas mileage than most other 8,000 lb mega-SUVs, therefore making them "environmentally conscious".

Sure, his 10,000 sq ft home has a lower footprint than most other 10,000 sq foot homes, but why does an environmentalist want or need a house that large?

Should we give up all of our comforts for the sake of the planet?

You don't suggest that an environmentalist living in a normal sized house instead of an energy-guzzling 10,000 sq ft mansion is "giving up all of his comforts", do you?

If someone is going to make something their cause, they better be prepared to lead by example. Maybe I should become an activist for cars with better fuel economy. I can sell my 30 mpg Mazda Protege and buy a 6 mpg Hummer. Or maybe I'll become a vegan activist. If you're interested in my ideas you can find me at Outback Steakhouse. I'll be protesting the lack of butter on my Porterhouse.

What if I support gay marriage? Should I marry someone of the same sex?

While sounding clever on the surface, that analogy does not work. Gay marriage and heterosexual marriage don't have to be at odds. On the other hand, promoting a vegan society and eating a juicy steak are mutually exclusive.

he's telling EVERYBODY to cut down on carbon emissions, not just a select group
edit: I'm agreeing with 91TTZ, and arguing against her209
 

bGIveNs33

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Jul 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: cubby1223
As long as Al Gore doesn't live the way he preaches, he'll never be considered great in my eyes. How much carbon emissions does his personal house put out? Oh, but that's okay because he donates money to good causes...

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What exactly has he contributed to society? I think someone like Edison, MLK Jr., Newton, Einstein etc. might be a bit higher on that list.

:roll:
 

LikeLinus

Lifer
Jul 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: cubby1223
As long as Al Gore doesn't live the way he preaches, he'll never be considered great in my eyes. How much carbon emissions does his personal house put out? Oh, but that's okay because he donates money to good causes...

Gore?s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology. Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family?s carbon footprint ? a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore?s office explains what Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore?s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.

Al Gore actually pays more per month to purchase 100% 'green' electricity - produced by solar, wind and other renewable resources - through TVA's Green Power Switch program. It probably comes as a shock to learn that the former Vice President has a home that is considerably larger than that of most Americans, a mansion even.

And while Al Gore's documentary does indeed ask Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption, it more specifically asks Americans to attempt to reduce their 'carbon footprint' - the amount of green house gases produced as a result of their energy consumption. Perhaps Mr. Johnson's organization would care to compare Al Gore's carbon footprint to that of others with 10,000 square foot homes.

You may want to note that this is AFTER Tennessee Center for Policy Research released research about his usage and Channel 2 news in Nashville called him out on his $1,500 a month electric bill and huge water bill for his home. That was their answer to making him look good AFTER THE FACT.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n...e.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54450

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org...cle.php?article_id=367

His home uses more energy PER MONTH than an average american uses in an entire year.

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

Gore?s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore?s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore?s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

Check the cold hard facts from NES and Nashville Gas. Not just his "press release".

 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Um, no. But I fail to see what this has to do with anything...at all.

In fact, this is, perhaps, the dumbest thread ever.

BTW-Bush sucks.

\thread
 

Hacp

Lifer
Jun 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: cubby1223
As long as Al Gore doesn't live the way he preaches, he'll never be considered great in my eyes. How much carbon emissions does his personal house put out? Oh, but that's okay because he donates money to good causes...

Gore?s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology. Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family?s carbon footprint ? a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore?s office explains what Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore?s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.

Al Gore actually pays more per month to purchase 100% 'green' electricity - produced by solar, wind and other renewable resources - through TVA's Green Power Switch program. It probably comes as a shock to learn that the former Vice President has a home that is considerably larger than that of most Americans, a mansion even.

And while Al Gore's documentary does indeed ask Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption, it more specifically asks Americans to attempt to reduce their 'carbon footprint' - the amount of green house gases produced as a result of their energy consumption. Perhaps Mr. Johnson's organization would care to compare Al Gore's carbon footprint to that of others with 10,000 square foot homes.

You may want to note that this is AFTER Tennessee Center for Policy Research released research about his usage and Channel 2 news in Nashville called him out on his $1,500 a month electric bill and huge water bill for his home. That was their answer to making him look good AFTER THE FACT.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n...e.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54450

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org...cle.php?article_id=367

His home uses more energy PER MONTH than an average american uses in an entire year.

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

Gore?s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore?s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore?s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

Check the cold hard facts from NES and Nashville Gas. Not just his "press release".

He purchases carbon credits so his carbon footprint is 0. I think someone is listening tuning in to too much Faux Noise.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: LoKe
Perhaps Mr. Johnson's organization would care to compare Al Gore's carbon footprint to that of others with 10,000 square foot homes.

That's some really poor logic there.

That's like someone saying that their 8,000 lb mega-SUV gets better gas mileage than most other 8,000 lb mega-SUVs, therefore making them "environmentally conscious".

Sure, his 10,000 sq ft home has a lower footprint than most other 10,000 sq foot homes, but why does an environmentalist want or need a house that large?

Should we give up all of our comforts for the sake of the planet?

You don't suggest that an environmentalist living in a normal sized house instead of an energy-guzzling 10,000 sq ft mansion is "giving up all of his comforts", do you?

If someone is going to make something their cause, they better be prepared to lead by example. Maybe I should become an activist for cars with better fuel economy. I can sell my 30 mpg Mazda Protege and buy a 6 mpg Hummer. Or maybe I'll become a vegan activist. If you're interested in my ideas you can find me at Outback Steakhouse. I'll be protesting the lack of butter on my Porterhouse.

If I could stick solar panels on my roof and make my 2200 sq ft home with central air, home theater and all other amenities the equivalent of a 900 sq ft apartment without A/C then why should I move into a 900 sq ft apartment and be miserable just to satisfy those who disagree with my point of view?

Your arguments are ridiculous...as is this thread.
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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If I ever won the Nobel prize I would publicly reject it and burn the prize money. I would be ashamed that I won a prize that put me in the same group as Arafat.