Al Franken accused of kissing and groping radio host. Will resign.

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feralkid

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No, you're excusing the already admitted behavior of a liberal Democrat because he's your boy, when claims are made about Republicans, even if not proven. You want them to be removed or sacrificed. You have a clear double standard for your own political side.


Insane tribalist accuses others of tribalism.
 
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feralkid

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Imagine all you could get him on when he would then respond to a question not asked with a lie, go and amend his testimony with more lies, get called back to congress again and lie some more, and then have to amend things yet again!

After he did all those things I wonder if you would think that Franken had simply made a few innocent errors or if he was hiding something...

I truly wonder.



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jackstar7

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Better 1000 innocent men go to jail than one guilty man walk free. All hail the wisdom of the mob.
The mob of pissed off and done with it women. The pendulum is swinging, cupcake, better get your feminism on.
 

jackstar7

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Considering the guy in the Oval your rage seems misplaced.
If you don't think Trump is the epitome of the reckoning I want to see, you are mistaken about my aims.

But for me this issue is not political, it is about civility and it's about damn time some people start to rethink the cavalier way they have treated others. Consequences, like Omar, are coming.
 
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sportage

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Just imagine all of those women out there, not the famous or celebrity but just your sister your mom your daughter... YOUR WIFE that has been have been or currently are putting up with this from not only those high profiled as Moore and Franken, but in the workplace.
Just talking last night to my 60 year old sis and she was telling how she worked for one Realestate agent that would say things like, "here's the report, in my pants, come and get it".
Or, on the way back from N.Y. on the plane sitting beside some idiot that kept telling my sis how beautiful she was and how they needed to go somewhere together and grab a drink once on the ground.
My sis sat there for the entire 2 hour trip listening to this crap, then when they landed she asked for his phone number so she could call his wife. The guy actually ran off from her in the airport.

This happens all the time to women.
And that is why they usually keep quiet for the most part, because for them this is the way it is out there in society.
So.... damn straight that Franken should resign.
Moore needs to not only drop out but also be legally prosecuted in court by the law.
Donald Trump needs to go away, or be immediately impeached.
And the same goes for all the rest of them.
Seems a little obvious that the rich and powerful can simply abuse unwilling women nilly willy while the average poor schmuck has to rely on forced violent rape to get what he wants.
Either way, this happens all the time to women.
Women already know this all too well. The men are just waking up to the fact.

There is no need for discussion on this.
If someone is accused and the proof is there, or the explanation from the aggressor just doesn't jive as is the case with senate hopeful Moore, then the creep must simply go. Period.
Trump. Moore. Franken, the entire list of them.
A woman "could" make this up to get even or whatever, but that would be very doubtful any woman would actually do that.
This happens much too often in real life for any woman to need make this up.
Just look around.
And should they the women get the strength to speak out, listen and believe.
I'd say the chances for any woman to simply make something like this up is about the same odds as being hit by lightening..... while assaulting a woman.
And when you have photos, video tape, audio recording to back her up then it is not only true but criminally true.
When woman after woman after woman comes forward as in the case of senate hopeful Moore, she is not making anything up.
And the assault did not involve a woman, it involved a child.

Maybe, just maybe if we as a society can get our act together and forever stop this from happening, or at least allow every woman to feel safe telling the world it happen, then just maybe all the other abominations within our society will also come to a halt. Or greatly lessen,
Abominations like murder, mass shootings, wife beatings, child molestation, bigotry, hate and crime up and down the scale.
And I suspect the violence in sports has something to do with this.
Our obsession with the sport of sport needs to be examined as well.
Maybe those big burley guys playing with their balls on Sunday afternoon stirs the male hormone into a rage of violence that they take out on the women. The little lady at home, or in the office.
Yep! I think sports has a lot to do with this trend of violence against women.
And cowboy hats.
And for gods sake don't let some A-hole wearing an American flag pinned to their lapel pass off as that decent all American Joe.
Moore,Trump and probably Franken all wear those damn pins as if to say "hey, I'm a normal American guy" which they are definitely not...
 

Starbuck1975

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I don't care for Franken, but I legitimately feel sorry for him. The chorus of voices calling for his resignation is incredibly troubling.

I can't imagine the number of political think tanks and activists actively looking for potentially incriminating photos of other powerful men.

The genie is out of the bottle and has an insatiable thirst for blood sacrifices.
 
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jackstar7

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I don't care for Franken, but I legitimately feel sorry for him. The chorus of voices calling for his resignation is incredibly troubling.

I can't imagine the number of political think tanks and activists actively looking for potentially incriminating photos of powerful men.

The genie is out of the bottle and has an insatiable thirst for blood sacrifices.
Because some men have been fucking awful and have faced negligible consequences for thousands of years.

It ain't all men, but it's way too fucking many.
 
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zinfamous

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So it's perfectly acceptable to grab a woman by her titties if she lets you ? And she can grab a man by the dick if he lets her? Damn and i've been hearing for a year from all you fsking hypocrites that's it some sort of horror story deserving of protest marches and pussy hats. I guess things change when it's a Democrat doesn't it?

wow, you're fucking retarded.
 

Ackmed

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Men have been abusing women since the beginning of time, that is just how it has been. Or even other men. It is good to see the tide turning and people being held accountable for what they have done. It is not ok to sexually assault someone just because you're famous or a politician, someone "powerful". I think we do have to stay vigilant though and not let falsely accused people get trampled on. That has ruined lives before.

It is cute that Dems have suddenly gotten a spine about this. There are is much more credible evidence against Bill Clinton than some of the alleged incidents in todays news that if it was someone else in todays time, they would be tarred and feathered over what he was alleged to have done. And what he did do. Lolita express anyone? To be fair, some Dems are turning on the situation finally. Joe Biden is on video sexually assaulting a female, nothing done. Just being creepy Joe, all is a-ok.

This isn't the old days, where stuff like this was accepted much more easily. Expected even. And thats a good thing.
 
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Men have been abusing women since the beginning of time, that is just how it has been. Or even other men. It is good to see the tide turning and people being held accountable for what they have done. It is not ok to sexually assault someone just because you're famous or a politician, someone "powerful". I think we do have to stay vigilant though and not let falsely accused people get trampled on. That has ruined lives before.

It is cute that Dems have suddenly gotten a spine about this. There are is much more credible evidence against Bill Clinton than some of the alleged incidents in todays news that if it was someone else in todays time, they would be tarred and feathered over what he was alleged to have done. And what he did do. Lolita express anyone? To be fair, some Dems are turning on the situation finally. Joe Biden is on video sexually assaulting a female, nothing done. Just being creepy Joe, all is a-ok.

This isn't the old days, where stuff like this was accepted much more easily. Expected even. And thats a good thing.
You started out well, then went full nutter. A shame. You were on to something.
 
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With pleasure! If this were a ballgame, it'd be a rout. He'd be outscoring (pun intended) Franken 11-1.

From The Guardian, a respected, mainstream English newspaper:

"They are Cathy Heller, who told the Guardian last year that in the late 1990s Trump forcibly kissed her on the lips the first time they had ever met; Kari Wells, a former model and Bravo Actress, who said Trump aggressively propositioned her in 1992 while he was dating her friend; and Jessica Leeds, who said Trump assaulted her on a plane in the early 1980s when he allegedly groped her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt.

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There was his former business partner in the beauty pageant industry, Jill Harth, who told the Guardian in an interview last summer that Trump groped her breasts and grabbed her crotch in one of the children’s rooms at his Florida home Mar-a-Lago in 1993.

“My pain is everyday with bastard Trump as President. “No one gets it unless it happens to them. NO one!” Harth tweeted after the Weinstein allegations came to light.

Then there was Kristin Anderson, who claimed last fall that Trump touched her vagina through her underwear at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s.

And Mindy McGillivray, who said Trump groped her in 2003 when she was 23, also allegedly at Mar-a-Lago.

And Rachel Crooks, who said Trump kissed her forcibly on the mouth in 2005.

Temple Taggart McDowell, a former Miss USA beauty pageant contestant, also alleged that Trump kissed her without permission, as did Jessica Drake, along with other claims. Natasha Stoynoff accused Trump of “forcing his tongue down my throat” in 2005.

A former contestant on The Apprentice, Summer Zervos – who also said Trump kissed and groped her without consent – has filed a defamation claim against the now-president. Through her lawyer Gloria Allred, she declined to be interviewed for this story."

Of course, each incident was Trumpeted all over the American press (you must have missed it) and, in each instance, multiple high ranking members of the Republican Party denounced his behavior and called for an immediate investigation!

Each time, Trump himself issued a heartfelt mea culpa and apology, and agreed that he should be investigated.

Hahahahaha, just kidding! :D

Ok - Thanks for looking that up because I was too lazy to.... and I sincerely didn't doubt that he had a laundry list.

My question to you is, why the fuck did you poor liberal folks take the ONE instance where he didn't actually commit a sexual assault and run with it like it was the worst thing ever tthroughout the election... Is that simply the only one that there was actual evidence for? Just curious. Seems like you could have gotten a lot further on ANY of the items you mentioned above... You know, where he actually DID supposedly commit sexual assault.
 

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Ok - Thanks for looking that up because I was too lazy to.... and I sincerely didn't doubt that he had a laundry list.

My question to you is, why the fuck did you poor liberal folks take the ONE instance where he didn't actually commit a sexual assault and run with it like it was the worst thing ever tthroughout the election... Is that simply the only one that there was actual evidence for? Just curious. Seems like you could have gotten a lot further on ANY of the items you mentioned above... You know, where he actually DID supposedly commit sexual assault.
youre delusional if you think any example mattered.
 
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cytg111

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I dont know, such a picture lacks situational context alot. I know I could pull that off on someone, show her the picture and she would burst out laughing.. But say that we years later have a fallout and that picture exists and #metoo ramps up... I take note that she accepts his apology... the buck stops there.
 

Thebobo

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The more I read about this the more I think the story is bullshit.

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Grooveriding

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Not a fan of the way that picture is put together. There is no need for the shot of her in the bikini - in the context of the text caption - it makes it seem like it's there to imply there is something wrong with her, or she is not to be trusted, because she posed in a bikini for what is an obviously really sexual image.

The text may be true, or it may be false. But if that is true, I would assume then that there is a plane full of people who can verify that and refute her story. It should be reasonably easy to prove and get people on the record about if the people who were there are willing to give their version of events. That is something for lawyers to look at though via getting affidavits from everyone who was on the plane and saw what actually happened, an image of two pictures and some text really doesn't say anything one way or the other.
 
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Chocu1a

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As long as he sincerely apologizes and as long as he's a liberal Democrat and acknowledges the hurt he has inflicted there needs to be space for him to be forgiven and given another term, or 2. Yep, got it.
I don't know you, never met you, but Jesus....I could not imagine trying to have an intelligent conversation with you. I imagine it would be like driving a Mack truck into a brick wall. Repeatedly.
 

boomerang

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I don't care for Franken, but I legitimately feel sorry for him. The chorus of voices calling for his resignation is incredibly troubling.

I can't imagine the number of political think tanks and activists actively looking for potentially incriminating photos of other powerful men.

The genie is out of the bottle and has an insatiable thirst for blood sacrifices.
Yeah, I wonder how this all ends. Who will investigate the sins of the last man standing when all before him are locked up, banished, silenced or have committed suicide? We had trials to determine who were witches at one point in our history do we need something similar now? Seems like we're headed in that direction.

Mankind has progressed not one iota in many millennia.

Franken is going down because Trump is the ultimate target in the political realm. Franken will have to take one for the team. It's won't be too bitter a pill to swallow. A giant pension, paid health care, perks galore. It won't be an issue. But Franken won't be the only one. There will be 'sacrifices' throughout the entertainment industry, education, business, the clergy, your co-workers and maybe even you. (That's a rhetorical you, BTW.) Remember that time you got caught by your co-worker checking out her ass? I know I remember when I got caught.

Never let a crisis go to waste. Collateral damage is always an issue in war and make no mistake, this is war. A lot of lives are going to be ruined in an attempt to make whole the bruised egos of some sore losers.

Will Hillary go along with the persecution of Bill? He's going to have to be torn down to give this witch hunt the legitimacy it needs to accomplish the ultimate goal. Taking down a former President to get a current President will really seal the deal. Will she acquiesce or will she fight back? There is real danger here. She knows a lot about a lot of people. Where will her allegiances take her knowing that her self-preservation is on the line? The Clinton machine can be bought, that's a certainty. In question is if there are any lines that can't be crossed. Bill for Trump if she can keep her own head above water?

Stay tuned.
 
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Thebobo

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Victim blaming from the left...officially have come full circle

The woman went on Waaaaaaaaanity to continue here accusation that's enough for me to say she is full of shit and a political hack. She's splashed interviews everywhere she can looking for attention.