Al Franken accused of kissing and groping radio host. Will resign.

[Jhhnn]

For a Bernie boffer, you sure seem to side with the Repubs.

He just concern trolls about Bernie.

I like what Franken said-

There is some irony in the fact that I am leaving while a man who has bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office and a man who has repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the Senate with the full support of his party

 

[Puffnstuff]

Then how about paper cut vs gaping, gangrenous wound?

I understand what you're saying, however, this comes down to hey this guy is the better choice because he only raped one girl and the other guy raped two. The retardicans will continue to support Moore because that's what they do.

 

[ivwshane]

For a Bernie boffer, you sure seem to side with the Repubs.

He does but in this particular case I think he's right. Reality agrees with him. Democrats won't be rewarded for taking the moral high ground and Republicans sure as shit won't be suffering any consequences for not holding one of their own accountable.

 

[Jaskalas]

It doesn't give dems squat! The voters simply don't care (or more precisely, there aren't a large enough number of voters who do care). The voters have continuously rewarded Republicans despite their shitty behavior and dems have never been rewarded for being good.

Did someone forget 2006 and 2008?

It's the ACA that slaughtered Democrats in 2010. Over time, the voters will be able to move past that grievous wound. The moral high ground will carry some weight given the depths of Trump and Moore. A sizeable portion of the GOP base is upset, did you forget #nevertrump and Romney coming out and attacking Trump at the end of the primary? Republicans have disgusted plenty of people with this. The tide is turning.

 

[ivwshane]

Did someone forget 2006 and 2008?

It's the ACA that slaughtered Democrats in 2010. Over time, the voters will be able to move past that grievous wound. The moral high ground will carry some weight given the depths of Trump and Moore. A sizeable portion of the GOP base is upset, did you forget #nevertrump and Romney coming out and attacking Trump at the end of the primary? Republicans have disgusted plenty of people with this. The tide is turning.

Did someone forget 2016? I know you totally forgot about this part of my response: or more precisely, there aren't a large enough number of voters who do care.

 

[Starbuck1975]

He does but in this particular case I think he's right. Reality agrees with him. Democrats won't be rewarded for taking the moral high ground and Republicans sure as shit won't be suffering any consequences for not holding one of their own accountable.

Reality always agrees with me. It always agrees with you as well. In this particular case, our realities aligned.

 

[soundforbjt]

Did someone forget 2016? I know you totally forgot about this part of my response: or more precisely, there aren't a large enough number of voters who do care.

Dems will once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, the dem voter apathy amazes me.

 

[Jaskalas]

Did someone forget 2016? I know you totally forgot about this part of my response: or more precisely, there aren't a large enough number of voters who do care.

Trump wasn't President in 2016. He is now, his charade is over.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Well the good news is SNL's game is bound to take a few steps up.
Plus he's a Comidian it should be entertaining when the twitter war begins.

 

[boomerang]

So Franken says he will be stepping down in the coming weeks? What, does his pension and bennies get pumped up if stays a few more?

 

[zinfamous]

I understand what you're saying, however, this comes down to hey this guy is the better choice because he only raped one girl and the other guy raped two. The retardicans will continue to support Moore because that's what they do.

In this case, it wasn't comparing the improprieties of the two, rather the contrasting responses of their respective parties and their supporters in light of their (Still rather incomparable) improprieties.

 

[zinfamous]

So Franken says he will be stepping down in the coming weeks? What, does his pension and bennies get pumped up if stays a few more?

lol, cute sig. Say, don't you have a racist southern pedophile to go wave flags for?

 

[Victorian Gray]

So Franken says he will be stepping down in the coming weeks? What, does his pension and bennies get pumped up if stays a few more?

Say hi to Roy for us.

 

[cytg111]

So Franken says he will be stepping down in the coming weeks? What, does his pension and bennies get pumped up if stays a few more?

Says the pedo lover

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Except none of that is going to happen. Voters are not even going to remember the Franken blood sacrifice in a few months.

Seriously. Idk what was the point of this when people barely remember or cared about Trump's grab them by the pussy tape.

 

[ivwshane]

Seriously. Idk what was the point of this when people barely remember or cared about Trump's grab them by the pussy tape.

Its all wishful thinking. People think that the party that puts their party before country will some how come to their senses and all of the sudden put the country first. Its laughable.

I'll believe in change when elected Republicans start leaving the party in protest in any meaningful number.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Seriously. Idk what was the point of this when people barely remember or cared about Trump's grab them by the pussy tape.

Lets not allow them to forget.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Seriously. Idk what was the point of this when people barely remember or cared about Trump's grab them by the pussy tape.

Case in point. This thread already went dormant and Franken's political corpse isn't even cold yet.

You should go check out the comments sections under any of the NY Times articles on Franken. Gillebrand is getting some well deserved heat on the Editor and Reader's pick comments. Looks like Schumer knew exactly what he was doing by letting her lead the mob.

 

[brandonbull]

So if Moore gets elected and then immediately resigns, will that be ok? I want due process to run it's course on the accused so we can know the truth. If they are the scum criminals that everyone thinks they are, the legal system needs to punish and expose them so others are not victims.

 

[IronWing]

So if Moore gets elected and then immediately resigns, will that be ok? I want due process to run it's course on the accused so we can know the truth. If they are the scum criminals that everyone thinks they are, the legal system needs to punish and expose them so others are not victims.

As has been stated before, an election isn't a trial. No need to elect Moore whether or not he is guilty of these accusations.

 

[Blackjack200]

So if Moore gets elected and then immediately resigns, will that be ok? I want due process to run it's course on the accused so we can know the truth. If they are the scum criminals that everyone thinks they are, the legal system needs to punish and expose them so others are not victims.

This was written about Franken, but would certainly apply to Moore.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-these-famous-men-are/?utm_term=.efe9d35e1972

 

[FerrelGeek]

You're a bit more even-handed than some; especially when it comes this current barrage of sexual misconduct stories. But I'm looking at this all from an apolitical pov. I maintain the many on the left have blinders when it comes to their team. And yes, I do think that many on the left are a bunch of self-righteous, sanctimonious PsOS. I bet Rose, Lauer, Franken, and Conyers were all laughing when Ailes and O'Reilley went down. Doesn't mean that I think people on the R side are saints; I have little to no use for the vast majority of them as well.

wtf are you on about?

--team A lays rabbit-sized turds. Team B fills all of Madagascar with brontosaurus-sized turds.

So, both stink? Are are you guys really this damaged?

 

[FerrelGeek]

Bill Clinton was accused of Rape and he'd probably win if he could run for president again. Daniel Inouye was accused of doing a Trump an a hairdresser while she was cutting his hair and she was essentially ignored. Ted Kennedy and Dick Durban on at least one occasion made a waitress sandwich at a DC restaurant and it was ignored.

I'm not saying that Moore is innocent. Just pointing out that your beloved libs are self-righteous slime.

A Democrat gropes women, is removed.
A Republican tries to rape young teenage girls, one a young as 14. The President and party endorse him.
If both sides stink, who washes it off, and who rolls around in it?

 

[SlowSpyder]

Glad to see him go. Buh bye.

 

[pmv]

Bill Clinton was accused of Rape and he'd probably win if he could run for president again. Daniel Inouye was accused of doing a Trump an a hairdresser while she was cutting his hair and she was essentially ignored. Ted Kennedy and Dick Durban on at least one occasion made a waitress sandwich at a DC restaurant and it was ignored.

I'm not saying that Moore is innocent. Just pointing out that your beloved libs are self-righteous slime.

And you started off with a reasonably-debatable point, then went straight into the usual content-free abuse. What a shame.

Because I do think there are questions around Bill Clinton (though I wasn't a huge fan of his actual policies either, so I don't find it that hard to admit that), and the Kennedys generally seemed to have a questionable track record on sexual attitudes (would JFK have gotten such an easy ride on that if he were around today?).

One could also point to all the stories about Hillary's tendencies to get violent with Bill and others around her, including once scratching his face so badly it had to be explained to the public as the work of Socks the cat. Had that been about some other politician, with either gender switched or just a different balance of political loyalties, it would probably have been treated as heinous domestic violence and maybe derailed their career, certainly damaged it.

There's a huge problem when different political issues cut across each other, with people being good guys in one area but getting things horribly wrong in another. I don't quite know how one negotiates that.

It's so easy to be morally righteous when one doesn't really _do_ anything political, when one is not a player. My parents used to be very involved in politics, and it turned out to be a huge pile of corrupt fecal matter (a friend whose parents were on the opposite end of the political spectrum had exactly the same experience, oddly enough), so even though I get tempted I repeatedly shy away from diving in to that particular cess pit (as Orwell described it) and just uselessly blather on the internet, so I can strike whatever moral pose I wish at the expense of being irrelevant.

People who actually practice politics have to constantly make awkward compromises.