Airport Body Scanners (NSFW?)

[Zorba]

The complete lack of professionalism among TSA agents scares the shit out of me with this technology. When we were flying home from Vegas a couple months ago, my wife had a "toy" in her bag. The guy running the scanner calls his friend over and they sit there and point and laugh and then keep looking at my wife. That kind of behavior is complete BS and would get you fired from the vast majority of companies.

I am not usually a "think of the kids" type of person, but I would not want my 12 year-old daughter or son going through this so some perv can check them out. Not saying that everyone in TSA is a perv, but I guarantee there will be a handful.

 

[Patranus]

The complete lack of professionalism among TSA agents scares the shit out of me with this technology. When we were flying home from Vegas a couple months ago, my wife had a "toy" in her bag. The guy running the scanner calls his friend over and they sit there and point and laugh and then keep looking at my wife. That kind of behavior is complete BS and would get you fired from the vast majority of companies.

I am not usually a "think of the kids" type of person, but I would not want my 12 year-old daughter or son going through this so some perv can check them out. Not saying that everyone in TSA is a perv, but I guarantee there will be a handful.

Just wait until they are unionized if Obamas pick passes congress

 

[eits]

i'm so sick of people complaining about their "privacy" because of these full body scanners...

stfu, people. if you want to fly, you're gonna have to deal with someone looking at a topographical image of you without clothes... deal with it. no one cares. these people who look at the screens will be looking at thousands per day... they won't care any more than your urologist/gyno would care if they saw your genitals.

secondly, the pic in the op is a joke. you can't even make stuff out in the real scans... they're not that great.

personally, i'm not for the scanners only because i think they're not good enough and anyone can shove a bomb up their ass and pass detection. i think bomb-sniffing dogs is the way to go.

 

[TruePaige]

i'm so sick of people complaining about their "privacy" because of these full body scanners...

stfu, people. if you want to fly, you're gonna have to deal with someone looking at a topographical image of you without clothes... deal with it. no one cares. these people who look at the screens will be looking at thousands per day... they won't care any more than your urologist/gyno would care if they saw your genitals.

secondly, the pic in the op is a joke. you can't even make stuff out in the real scans... they're not that great.

personally, i'm not for the scanners only because i think they're not good enough and anyone can shove a bomb up their ass and pass detection. i think bomb-sniffing dogs is the way to go.

I'm sick of security theater in general...this is just another wasteful expense that does nothing to deter real terrorists who will just shove something up their ass instead.

Seriously, they could get on a long flight with a timed device and just let it go off.

If you ever could make airlines completely safe (impossible, they are already the safest way to travel anyway..) someone could just go Oklahoma City and pack the rest in ball bearings in the middle of rush hour in any major city and do far more damage.

It's just a way of pacifying the morons.

 

[Craig234]

The complete lack of professionalism among TSA agents scares the shit out of me with this technology. When we were flying home from Vegas a couple months ago, my wife had a "toy" in her bag.

He he. He he he he. Hehehehehhehehehehehehhe.

The guy running the scanner calls his friend over and they sit there and point and laugh and then keep looking at my wife. That kind of behavior is complete BS and would get you fired from the vast majority of companies.

I am not usually a "think of the kids" type of person, but I would not want my 12 year-old daughter or son going through this so some perv can check them out. Not saying that everyone in TSA is a perv, but I guarantee there will be a handful.

Seriously, you should have spoken to a supervisor at least, And your kids are highly obscured.

 

[ebaycj]

So if the images are deleted, how will the TSA agents show probably cause for a full body search in court?

I would assume that the ones flagged for investigation wouldn't be immediately deleted.

 

[wiretap]

i'm so sick of people complaining about their "privacy" because of these full body scanners...

stfu, people. if you want to fly, you're gonna have to deal with someone looking at a topographical image of you without clothes... deal with it. no one cares. these people who look at the screens will be looking at thousands per day... they won't care any more than your urologist/gyno would care if they saw your genitals.

secondly, the pic in the op is a joke. you can't even make stuff out in the real scans... they're not that great.

personally, i'm not for the scanners only because i think they're not good enough and anyone can shove a bomb up their ass and pass detection. i think bomb-sniffing dogs is the way to go.

I'm sick of people like you that welcome big overreaching government to rule with an iron fist.

 

[TruePaige]

I'm sick of people like you that welcome big overreaching government to rule with an iron fist.

This. I value my constitutional rights.

 

[Jaskalas]

This. I value my constitutional rights.

I agree, the general public's reaction is anti-American.

 

[MotF Bane]

i'm so sick of people complaining about their "privacy" because of these full body scanners...

stfu, people. if you want to fly, you're gonna have to deal with someone looking at a topographical image of you without clothes... deal with it. no one cares. these people who look at the screens will be looking at thousands per day... they won't care any more than your urologist/gyno would care if they saw your genitals.

secondly, the pic in the op is a joke. you can't even make stuff out in the real scans... they're not that great.

personally, i'm not for the scanners only because i think they're not good enough and anyone can shove a bomb up their ass and pass detection. i think bomb-sniffing dogs is the way to go.

Really? You hate Constitutional rights that much?

 

[WelshBloke]

If there were two queues in the airport, one involved a long wait, being physically frisked and the option of a strip search and the other queue involved a short wait and the scanner which would you choose?

I'd be straight in the short queue.

 

[TruePaige]

If there were two queues in the airport, one involved a long wait, being physically frisked and the option of a strip search and the other queue involved a short wait and the scanner which would you choose?

I'd be straight in the short queue.

And if there was another option that had people just walk through a metal detector and get on a plane because as a competent individual you are smart enough to realize (terror attacks factored in) that airline travel is still far safer and you don't need this security theater crap I would buy that.

See? Hypothetical situations are crazy in that you can say whatever you want aren't they?

 

[WelshBloke]

And if there was another option that had people just walk through a metal detector and get on a plane because as a competent individual you are smart enough to realize (terror attacks factored in) that airline travel is still far safer and you don't need this security theater crap I would buy that.

See? Hypothetical situations are crazy in that you can say whatever you want aren't they?

A bit like the situations in this thread where people are worried about paedophiles looking at their kids or their scans getting on the internet.

 

[TruePaige]

A bit like the situations in this thread where people are worried about paedophiles looking at their kids or their scans getting on the internet.

Well yeah, that is a bit overboard, but I personally find this wholly unnecessary to mitigate the ultra small risk of a concealed weapon that isn't concealed in the body (seriously, airline travel is so safe right now, the fraction of a fraction of a percent of protection this provides isn't worth it), a waste of money, and an invasion of privacy

 

[BrownTown]

I work at a nuclear power plant and take way less crap walking into there then I do going through an airport. There are so much easier way for a person to kill many others than going through an airport that it is such a joke the amount of security that is required. I could jsut go out and buy a few hundred pounds of ammonium nitrate and fuel oil and park my car next to any sort of crowded area and kill more people then I would likely be able to get on a plane with some tiny bomb. Hijacking a plane like happened on 9-11 and ramming it into a building will never happen again because every single person on the pane knows they are going to be killed and will overwhelm the terrorists unless they are somehow able to get uzis or something on board to kill every person beforehand.

I guarantee you if I wanted to kill 100 people I could do it in numerous different ways, and bombing a plane wouldn't even be in the top 100 easiest to pull off.

 

[WHAMPOM]

The full body scanners that President Obama last night authorized to be rolled out in airports across the country at a cost of over $1 billion dollars not only produce detailed pictures of your genitals, but once inverted some of those images also display your naked body in full living color. It is important to stress that this is a low resolution image. Airport screeners will have access to huge high definition images that, once inverted, will allow them to see every detail of your body.

Beat them to it and fly naked. Problem solved. edit: True poll, 80% know someone that has posted self-nude pictures. So what's your crank about?

 

[jagec]

I suspect you're joking, but I think that's likely. People (IRS agents) already steal signatuures off of celebrity tax returns for big bucks, etc.

Yeah, and they get arrested for it and COMPLETELY SCREWED in court. The IRS has an entire division whose only job is to look over their employees' virtual shoulders and make sure that they don't access accounts that they don't have a right to. Seriously, the management at the IRS is incredibly draconian.

<--knows someone who works for the IRS

 

[bob4432]

the terrorists are the pilots and we are along for the ride. we are spending too much time on this airline stuff leaving other holes wide open. have to agree w/ BrownTown on this one - aside from single terrorists acts, the airlines are out of the picture for a "plot", hell the last 2 that made it decently far were dealt w/ by the citizens.

so, now, if i eat on the flight and get the shits because of the food, am i suppose to shit in my chair since i can't go to the bathroom the last hour of the flight? if people shit i their chairs will that be considered a terrorist act since the shitter is off limits?

also, why the last hour? since all of this is now public, i am sure a terrorist would do whatever 1:30 before landing. this is some ridiculous shit.

oh yeah, and would hit

 

[bob4432]

Yeah, and they get arrested for it and COMPLETELY SCREWED in court. The IRS has an entire division whose only job is to look over their employees' virtual shoulders and make sure that they don't access accounts that they don't have a right to. Seriously, the management at the IRS is incredibly draconian.

<--knows someone who works for the IRS

well they need that oversight for the guy obama wants to run the tsa...since he has admitted to doing it 2x already or am i thinking of the wrong person?

 

[eits]

Really? You hate Constitutional rights that much?

no, i love constitutional rights. this is completely different. yes, people have the right to privacy, but when you're getting on a plane where, potentially, thousands of peoples' lives are at stake, for a brief few seconds, your privacy can handle a little intrusion to someone who isn't searching for anything other than bombs.

it doesn't matter anyway, because those x-ray machines aren't good enough to find incendiary devices inside people or woven into fabric. that's why bomb-sniffing dogs are probably a better way to go.

what, you don't think that there should be any airport security because of constitutional rights? the most primary of constitutional rights is the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. those rights can be easily wiped away if someone with a bomb up their ass decides he wants to kill you and everyone else on the plane.

there's a big difference between a security check before getting on a plane and big brother in your house.

 

[eits]

I'm sick of security theater in general...this is just another wasteful expense that does nothing to deter real terrorists who will just shove something up their ass instead.

Seriously, they could get on a long flight with a timed device and just let it go off.

If you ever could make airlines completely safe (impossible, they are already the safest way to travel anyway..) someone could just go Oklahoma City and pack the rest in ball bearings in the middle of rush hour in any major city and do far more damage.

It's just a way of pacifying the morons.

i completely agree.

what i'm arguing is basically for all the people who are crying about these scanners. the op image is full of bullshit... that's not at all what these scans look like. you can't see people naked in the scans. and even if you could, big deal... if it was something that actually WOULD help, who cares? you'll get self-conscious at first as you walk through the scanner, but then 5 minutes later, when you get to your terminal, you'll have forgotten all about it and started thinking about whether you'd like to go to a gift shop or hit up the tcby treats over by the bathrooms.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The TSA has it's problems to be sure. One of the bigger ones is that they'll get hammered if they miss something, then they'll get beat up on if they were to come up with a way to make it harder to hide something.

America is a fickle nation.

 

[I Saw OJ]

Hey if they want to look at me naked thats their problem, not mine.

 

[wiretap]

no, i love constitutional rights. this is completely different. yes, people have the right to privacy, but when you're getting on a plane where, potentially, thousands of peoples' lives are at stake, for a brief few seconds, your privacy can handle a little intrusion to someone who isn't searching for anything other than bombs.

it doesn't matter anyway, because those x-ray machines aren't good enough to find incendiary devices inside people or woven into fabric. that's why bomb-sniffing dogs are probably a better way to go.

what, you don't think that there should be any airport security because of constitutional rights? the most primary of constitutional rights is the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. those rights can be easily wiped away if someone with a bomb up their ass decides he wants to kill you and everyone else on the plane.

there's a big difference between a security check before getting on a plane and big brother in your house.

How about large sporting events and crowded movie theaters? Let's setup some mobile body scanners and every place there are large gatherings for potential bombers and shooters.

 

[Zebo]

Naked chicks with guns. That's fuggin hot!