Airbus A380

[AmdEmAll]

Amazon.com has a book about "How To Lie with "help" of Statistics"

it cost just about $5....

Go ahead and keep believing that Russian aircraft are safer to fly on... LOL.

If its not the improper or lack of maintenance its the drunk pilots.

 

[Gintaras]

Go ahead and keep believing that Russian aircraft are safer to fly on... LOL.

If its not the improper or lack of maintenance its the drunk pilots.

Says who? a russianphob, who never has heard how many american pilots were arrested while drunk on job?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Russia, and "flying vehicle crash" go hand and hand. Whether it's a plane, or a space ship, it's probably going to crash.

 

[Born2bwire]

What is this? Are they speaking in tongues?

 

[Gintaras]

Russia, and "flying vehicle crash" go hand and hand. Whether it's a plane, or a space ship, it's probably going to crash.

More people die in US from guns shots, like in Newton School than from russian aircraft accidents...
Want to compare DEMOCRACIES? US or Russia's? Where were killed more people? under US "democracy" - Iraq, Haiti, Chile...etc or under Russia's - Chechnya?

"Plane going to crash?" What about a big recent scandal in US Congress - Pentagon buying from China electronic counterfeit pars for US Defense...?

Sorry, OP was about aircrafts, but some arrogant and ignorant assholes are asking to go at them...Looks, like some of them have read american version of "Mein Kamph": Zbigniew Brzezinski:The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives

Some just simply brainwashed: everything good - US, everything bad: Russia...

 

[Red Squirrel]

More people die in US from guns shots, like in Newton School than from russian aircraft accidents...
Want to compare DEMOCRACIES? US or Russia's? Where were killed more people? under US "democracy" - Iraq, Haiti, Chile...etc or under Russia's - Chechnya?

"Plane going to crash?" What about a big recent scandal in US Congress - Pentagon buying from China electronic counterfeit pars for US Defense...?

Sorry, OP was about aircrafts, but some arrogant and ignorant assholes are asking to go at them...Looks, like some of them have read american version of "Mein Kamph": Zbigniew Brzezinski:The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives

Some just simply brainwashed: everything good - US, everything bad: Russia...

I was just making a joke. Of course we all know the US's death by gun problem is much more serious than a few planes crashing here and there.

 

[Nintendesert]

It looks like the thing can fly itself as long as you twiddle the right knobs and push the right buttons.

Unless a Frenchman is flying it.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Meh. I try not to get into the A vs. B debate. Each typically boils down to a pissing match between Americans and Europeans debating which has the bigger "dick". As the recent SPIEGEL article discusses, Airbus may now have the biggest, but if they didn't do the market research correctly, then they could face financial ruin. The 787, as an alternative, pushes the technology envelope a little further than the A380, and is designed to allow smaller airports to connect (spoke to spoke) without the burden of the congested hubs (hub-spoke system). For example, ANA is opening a new route between Tokyo and San Jose, CA, bypassing SFO.

Otherwise, as a passenger I DO notice the effect of greater cabin humidity that newer AC offer (787, 747-8, and A380) and I do notice a quieter flight. I also notice the quality of the IFE system, the comfort of the seats, food, etc. These latter items have next to nothing to do with A vs. B. These choices are the discretion of the airlines and how they outfit their cabins. In this regard, my two preferred vehicles for TATL flights are the UAL 777 (in a window or aisle Economy Plus seat) and the DLH 747-8i (in any window or aisle seat). I like United's 2-5-2 configuration on its international 777s as long as you sit on one of the "2" seat sides. Lufthansa does not (yet) offer the equivalent of Economy Plus but they offer more comfortable seats, cleaner aircraft, better food, free adult beverages, better service, and friendlier staff. Of course, you typically pay an added $100-$300 premium for the Lufthansa Y-class service, all things being equal.

Well I do like the Airbus aircraft in the sense that the bodies are slightly wider. The A320 has a wider cabin than the 737. So while Southwest has to stick to 17" seats, Virgin America can get away with 19.2" wide seats. I don't believe the 737 can afford that kind of space no matter how you cram the seats.

I don't know how you can even like the United 777s given 31" leg room only. Yes there's the Plus option, but most other economy classes give you 33-34" to begin with in long haul international flights. The 2-5-2 is only marginally acceptable if you're in the 2, but even then I prefer 3-3-3 seating.

Also the A350 aims to have wider cabin than the 787 such that the standard seat will be 18" wide. I don't know why Boeing continues to make aircraft knowing that the airlines will mash in 17" seats. Sure their demo cabin showed 8 abreast seating, but we all know the airlines will slam 9 chairs in there. Putting 9 seats in an A350 still has a seat width advantage. Bleh.

One thing I do notice about Airbus aircraft is the ridiculously loud flap motors. I was in a 330 last week and the flap mechanism i as loud as lowering the landing gear. Yeesh.

 

[KMFJD]

Love the 777 for long haul travel, will try and fly on a 380 in for my next long haul flight

 

[RampantAndroid]

More people die in US from guns shots, like in Newton School than from russian aircraft accidents...
Want to compare DEMOCRACIES? US or Russia's? Where were killed more people? under US "democracy" - Iraq, Haiti, Chile...etc or under Russia's - Chechnya?

You're forgetting stuff like Afghanistan with the USSR? Cool. Oh, let's add in how many people Stalin killed. You cannot compare the entirety of the USA to the Russian Federation.

As for the 380, never cared much about it. It can't land at most airports and afaik is in its own class for runway length requirements. It's the reason Boeing never made something bigger than the 747, I believe. They figured out what the maximum size was (in addition to the maximum wingspan for docking at gates.)

 

[iamwiz82]

More people die in US from guns shots, like in Newton School than from russian aircraft accidents...
Want to compare DEMOCRACIES? US or Russia's? Where were killed more people? under US "democracy" - Iraq, Haiti, Chile...etc or under Russia's - Chechnya?

"Plane going to crash?" What about a big recent scandal in US Congress - Pentagon buying from China electronic counterfeit pars for US Defense...?

Sorry, OP was about aircrafts, but some arrogant and ignorant assholes are asking to go at them...Looks, like some of them have read american version of "Mein Kamph": Zbigniew Brzezinski:The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives

Some just simply brainwashed: everything good - US, everything bad: Russia...

You are an angry little person.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Well I do like the Airbus aircraft in the sense that the bodies are slightly wider. The A320 has a wider cabin than the 737. So while Southwest has to stick to 17" seats, Virgin America can get away with 19.2" wide seats. I don't believe the 737 can afford that kind of space no matter how you cram the seats.

I don't know how you can even like the United 777s given 31" leg room only. Yes there's the Plus option, but most other economy classes give you 33-34" to begin with in long haul international flights. The 2-5-2 is only marginally acceptable if you're in the 2, but even then I prefer 3-3-3 seating.

Also the A350 aims to have wider cabin than the 787 such that the standard seat will be 18" wide. I don't know why Boeing continues to make aircraft knowing that the airlines will mash in 17" seats. Sure their demo cabin showed 8 abreast seating, but we all know the airlines will slam 9 chairs in there. Putting 9 seats in an A350 still has a seat width advantage. Bleh.

One thing I do notice about Airbus aircraft is the ridiculously loud flap motors. I was in a 330 last week and the flap mechanism i as loud as lowering the landing gear. Yeesh.

Well, since the 737 AC of today are still based upon the original 1960's design, Airbus was able to do a clean-sheet design with the A320, take Boeing's proven concept (and sales success) and augment it by adding inches here and there, etc. Similar can be said of the 747 vs. A380, 767 vs. A330 and 787 vs. A350. Boeing seemingly made the first move, proved the air-frame's success in a given market and then Airbus improved upon it. Not a bad strategy IMO; certainly less risk involved. The 777 being the real only enigma to this pattern and we all know it more or less became a runaway hit that in some ways took Airbus by surprise, at the very least giving the A340 series a premature death.

 

[AmdEmAll]

You are an angry little person.

Agreed.. he's so very angry that the motherland makes garbage aircraft, cars, etc, and they are nothing like the great former USSR. Its no wonder everyone just gets wasted and jumps in front of traffic in that wasteland.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Agreed.. he's so very angry that the motherland makes garbage aircraft, cars, etc, and they are nothing like the great former USSR. Its no wonder everyone just gets wasted and jumps in front of traffic in that wasteland.

Its like facts and statistics don't even phase you.

 

[AmdEmAll]

Its like facts and statistics don't even phase you.

Where are they at? None of you russiatards have posted any.

Gintaras just rambles on about how he hates america and how everyone in here from "USA" keeps hatin' and russian planes are best.. they so strong like bull.

He's still mad about DaTT posting that the vid wasnt in english. Even though DaTT isn't even from the land of the eagle.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Where are they at? None of you russiatards have posted any.

Gintaras just rambles on about how he hates america and how everyone in here from "USA" keeps hatin' and russian planes are best.. they so strong like bull.

He's still mad about DaTT posting that the vid wasnt in english. Even though DaTT isn't even from the land of the eagle.

Last page, learn to read. It was a fairly large post too.

Wiki--
Since 1968 there have been 39 fatal incidents involving the Tu-154, most of which were caused either by factors unrelated to the aircraft or by its extensive use in demanding conditions
Sources
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8612915.stm
"The Tu-154 operates in regions with not very good air traffic control and navigation equipment, and in very difficult weather conditions," he said at the time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2081143.stm
Since its service entry, some 28 Tu-154s have been lost in accidents, a figure about normal for the quantity, years of service and technology of the type.

The Tu-154 operates in regions with not very good air traffic control and navigation equipment, and in very difficult weather conditions.
The Tu-154 accidents include a number that have little relation to the aircraft.



As for the IL-62
As of July 2012 there had been 23 hull losses from all causes including prototype testing, fires, runway overruns, navigational errors, and non-operational incidents, 48% of which did not involve fatalities [9] This figure and the list below includes planes that were still operable but were deemed uneconomic to return to service due to their age and/or flight hours (YR-IRD and CU-T1283). Within the group of comparable airliners (Il-62/Il-62M, VC10/Super VC10, Boeing 707, DC8) the Il-62M had the lowest hull loss rate.


Also, while as a whole Russias accident rate is very high, this is due to many many smaller airlines existing that cause accidents due to profits. The rate of airline incidents are so low, that pertubations cause massive shifts in safety rating in relation to other countries

 

[AmdEmAll]

Yeah I skimmed over your wall of text because it had only to do with a couple of kinds of russian planes and nothing to do with russian aviation as a whole.

LOL at comparing them to the 707 and DC8.. little behind the times. Here in amerika we have modern jets.

 

[disappoint]

I won't fly in a plane unless it's made by Honda.

 

[AmdEmAll]

I won't fly in a plane unless it's made by Honda.

 

[disappoint]

See? it even has a

Spoiler

spoiler

. Sure they might call it a horizontal stabilizer, but it's a

Spoiler

spoiler

.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Where's the Type-R sticker? That will make it go faster.

 

[AmdEmAll]

Where's the Type-R sticker? That will make it go faster.

Just wait til V-Tech kicks in y0!

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Yeah I skimmed over your wall of text because it had only to do with a couple of kinds of russian planes and nothing to do with russian aviation as a whole.

LOL at comparing them to the 707 and DC8.. little behind the times. Here in amerika we have modern jets.

Yeah actually freaking read. The jets described in my posts were all compared to their western counterparts and they easily match the safety records of the compared western planes

Current Russian airlines have a modern airfleet. The only reason Russian accident rates are so high is because many tiny airlines are using extremely outdated soviet airplanes in bad conditions. The top 10 airlines in Russia have the same accident rates as the top 10 airlines in the USA.

 

[disappoint]

Awww yeah! Now that's an interior bro!

 

[AmdEmAll]

Yeah keep making excuses.. They all fly in bad conditions and are outdated wahhh.

Like we have no old American planes flying up in Alaska? Haven't you seen Ice Pilots?? Those things NEVER brake down.