Airbus A380

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Red Squirrel

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Incredible how huge these planes are. Would love to get the opportunity to go in one some day.

I did get to go in a plane a couple years ago though, well 4 to be exact (2 to get to destination and 2 to get back). One of them was an airbus, but a medium sized one. Well it seemed pretty huge to me, but nothing compared to an A380. Either way, flying is an awesome experience. I probably got more pics from the flights than the actual trip lol.
 

DaTT

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Although I do like Boeing better.. im pretty sure Airbus has fixed those issues since the first A320 crash.

Great episode of Mayday, but a very very unfortunate and embarrassing accident for Airbus...I meant unfortunate for the families involved.
 

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btw, I was on that aircraft - named "New York", also, another flight I took on A380, was named "Frankfurt am Main"

Airplane spotters prolly do know that there special aircrafts - with names or specially painted, etc..just like items that collectors(stamp, coin and the rest) go after.
I've taken pic or an aircraft, it was specially painted A320 - Jet Blue - 10th year anniversary aircraft:

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Also, I've taken short video of Jet Blue 100th A320 Airbus on their fleet:

http://youtu.be/Hzj0oo90w3Q

My Brother-in-Law flies the A320 for Air Canada.
 
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Lufthansa names all of its aircraft...

The A380s were the first DLH AC to be named after non-German towns/cities/states. The one exception being one A340-300 that was named Halifax/Gander because of these cities' generosity in the days following 9/11.
 

KillerCharlie

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The airbus is a nightmare. If there is a mishap the freaking plane takes over and you can't take control. I'll take a 737 any day!
Although I do like Boeing better.. im pretty sure Airbus has fixed those issues since the first A320 crash.

There are some very drastic control philosophy differences between Boeing and Airbus.

Boeing backdrives all of their controls. If the pilot's stick moves, then the copilot's stick moves. If you turn auto-throttle on, the throttle levers will move up and down as engine power changes. On Airbus airplanes the stick position is not related to movement and the throttle lever position is completely disconnected from the actual throttle level. There are also a few steps that Boeing takes to ensure maintenance of control well outside the normal operating envelope.

In fact, the safety culture in France is different. Individuals can be criminally prosecuted for airplane crashes. This is not true in most countries. Allowing individuals to be criminally prosecuted creates a culture of cover ups, not one that is open.
 
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PhoKingGuy

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I personally don't fly on Airbus planes. I've actually requested different flights because of it.

Boeing or I dont fly.
 

KillerCharlie

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I personally don't fly on Airbus planes. I've actually requested different flights because of it.

Boeing or I dont fly.

Even though I work in the industry and I believe Boeing is safer, it doesn't make me change flights.

Yes, if you buy 2 lottery tickets instead of 1 your chances of winning are twice as high, but you're still not going to win.
 

StrangerGuy

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Even though I work in the industry and I believe Boeing is safer, it doesn't make me change flights.

Yes, if you buy 2 lottery tickets instead of 1 your chances of winning are twice as high, but you're still not going to win.

LOL @ those sort of dumbasses. They might as well don't bother to live since stairs alone killed infinitely more people than plane crashes and let's not even talk about cars.
 

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From Der Spiegel's International (English) Edition:

Boeing Soars Past Airbus in Deliveries

"There was a lot of testosterone at play in the conception of the A380," Grossbongardt said. "Politicians wanted to prove a point to the United States and show that the Europeans were capable of building the world's largest aircraft." Airbus succeeded in the latter, but the A380 so far hasn't proven to be the best-seller many had hoped for.

I'm sure that the A380 is an excellent aircraft. Then again, so was the Concorde.

Uno
 

Gintaras

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This is an american board therefore we speak english. You don't see any obnoxious americans coming over to german boards and speaking english do you. :hmm::D

That's what an arrogant american is able to say...Sad...
First, americans don't speak True English, like in UK or Australia...
Americans do speak english slang language...and in the future, americans will speak either spanish or ebonics...just a matter of time...

This forum not an american forum board...as some if ignorant and arrogant americans may think so, but here come people from all over the world, people from different countries, and where english is 2nd or 3rd language...
Nothing wrong with that...People want to learn something, want to know something more, than it's available only in their languages...

You don't see any obnoxious americans coming over to german boards and speaking english do you. :hmm::D

I could compare you to obnoxious german, who will complain, that someone posted something not in german on german language board...not intelligent...as same, as in your case...



I posted link to video that's in german, I did understand german very well years ago...Reason, I posted video, that's interesting to watch, even if you don't understand language - ever heard when folks watched silent movies?

I didn't posted that link for some ignorant and arrogant assholes - Those, who don't understand or don't want to watch something interesting - just keep on moving...
 

Gintaras

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Meh Airbus is fine. Tupolev on the other hand...

I've taken very many flights on TU-154 - it was very nice airplane in former USSR...Didn't like that much TU-134...
IL-62 - was a very good aircraft....all Communist leaders used to fly IL-62...I've taken a couple of flight on IL-62, it was a pleasure...

Some folks brainwashed by "West vs. East" could say different, but most of these even haven't been on planes they might talk about...like they know something....
 

Gintaras

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I personally don't fly on Airbus planes. I've actually requested different flights because of it.

Boeing or I dont fly.

Good thing...you can even refuse flight on Boeing, if McDonalds isn't served on that flight.... :)
 

AmdEmAll

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I've taken very many flights on TU-154 - it was very nice airplane in former USSR...Didn't like that much TU-134...
IL-62 - was a very good aircraft....all Communist leaders used to fly IL-62...I've taken a couple of flight on IL-62, it was a pleasure...

Some folks brainwashed by "West vs. East" could say different, but most of these even haven't been on planes they might talk about...like they know something....

I didnt say i've flown on them before or that they are not nice inside.. they just have a terrible record for safety. That is a fact.

Russian accident rates are 13 times the world average.
 
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I didnt say i've flown on them before or that they are not nice inside.. they just have a terrible record for safety. That is a fact.

Russian accident rates are 13 times the world average.

Wiki--
Since 1968 there have been 39 fatal incidents involving the Tu-154, most of which were caused either by factors unrelated to the aircraft or by its extensive use in demanding conditions
Sources
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8612915.stm
"The Tu-154 operates in regions with not very good air traffic control and navigation equipment, and in very difficult weather conditions," he said at the time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2081143.stm
Since its service entry, some 28 Tu-154s have been lost in accidents, a figure about normal for the quantity, years of service and technology of the type.

The Tu-154 operates in regions with not very good air traffic control and navigation equipment, and in very difficult weather conditions.
The Tu-154 accidents include a number that have little relation to the aircraft.



As for the IL-62
As of July 2012 there had been 23 hull losses from all causes including prototype testing, fires, runway overruns, navigational errors, and non-operational incidents, 48% of which did not involve fatalities [9] This figure and the list below includes planes that were still operable but were deemed uneconomic to return to service due to their age and/or flight hours (YR-IRD and CU-T1283). Within the group of comparable airliners (Il-62/Il-62M, VC10/Super VC10, Boeing 707, DC8) the Il-62M had the lowest hull loss rate.


Also, while as a whole Russias accident rate is very high, this is due to many many smaller airlines existing that cause accidents due to profits. The rate of airline incidents are so low, that pertubations cause massive shifts in safety rating in relation to other countries
 
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Meh. I try not to get into the A vs. B debate. Each typically boils down to a pissing match between Americans and Europeans debating which has the bigger "dick". As the recent SPIEGEL article discusses, Airbus may now have the biggest, but if they didn't do the market research correctly, then they could face financial ruin. The 787, as an alternative, pushes the technology envelope a little further than the A380, and is designed to allow smaller airports to connect (spoke to spoke) without the burden of the congested hubs (hub-spoke system). For example, ANA is opening a new route between Tokyo and San Jose, CA, bypassing SFO.

Otherwise, as a passenger I DO notice the effect of greater cabin humidity that newer AC offer (787, 747-8, and A380) and I do notice a quieter flight. I also notice the quality of the IFE system, the comfort of the seats, food, etc. These latter items have next to nothing to do with A vs. B. These choices are the discretion of the airlines and how they outfit their cabins. In this regard, my two preferred vehicles for TATL flights are the UAL 777 (in a window or aisle Economy Plus seat) and the DLH 747-8i (in any window or aisle seat). I like United's 2-5-2 configuration on its international 777s as long as you sit on one of the "2" seat sides. Lufthansa does not (yet) offer the equivalent of Economy Plus but they offer more comfortable seats, cleaner aircraft, better food, free adult beverages, better service, and friendlier staff. Of course, you typically pay an added $100-$300 premium for the Lufthansa Y-class service, all things being equal.
 
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tcG

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It should be the consumers choice to bear the risk that they desire. There should be an airline with full bunk-style bed seating.
 

DrPizza

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Wonderful aircraft...I've been on 2 flights with A380, New York-Frankfurt and Frankfurt-New York...
Don't like Frankfurt airport, but Lufthansa airlines - very good...maybe Finnair is better, I like Finnair...

Now, A380 on take-off and landing is very soft, doesn't shake like Boeing 747...
On one flight, my seat was next to wing/engines and it was so quiet...

Take-off from JFK:

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In flight:

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Some pic of A380 I've taken:

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and if interested more pics of mine of A380:

http://www.airport-data.com/photographers/gbmax:5834/A380:34148:3.html#

Nice pictures! I especially like the NYC one.
 

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It should be the consumers choice to bear the risk that they desire. There should be an airline with full bunk-style bed seating.

And someone should offer certain flights (say those departing earlier than 8:00 AM and later than 9:00 PM, plus Red-Eye flights) that restrict children younger than say 8 years of age.
 

Gintaras

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I didnt say i've flown on them before or that they are not nice inside.. they just have a terrible record for safety. That is a fact.

Russian accident rates are 13 times the world average.

Amazon.com has a book about "How To Lie with "help" of Statistics"

it cost just about $5....