i went on a plane on thursday night - friday morning AND monday night - tuesday morning
but it was only an airbus a320
but it was only an airbus a320
Thank you. Please ellaborate your decision of said retard.Originally posted by: Lonyo
Wow, way to be a retard.Originally posted by: Slickone
Don't like American companies? Why do you live here?Originally posted by: pecel
Time for Boeing R.I.P
boeing is outselling airbus this year. their brand new 787 has over 200 orders and is killing the a350. the a350 was a response to the 787 from airbus and has collected only 10 orders so far.
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Originally posted by: Anonemous
is this the one with the indoor gym/pool?
Not the one that flew today. It has a basketball court and a Velodrome instead.
I hate Airbus, doesnt help I have grown up in the airline industry, around boeings. . . eck eck @ airbus. . . die.
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people are so naive about stuff like this.
there is flagwaving on both sides but when you think about it, American can also be proud of this achievement. A lot of parts that went into the A380 are made in the USA. The same can be said about the 7e7 and other future boeings. More then 60% of the 7e7 will be constructed outside of the USA (notably Japan and Italy).
Boeing and Airbus doesn't give a flying f*ck about patriotic feelings, they care about money
there is flagwaving on both sides but when you think about it, American can also be proud of this achievement. A lot of parts that went into the A380 are made in the USA. The same can be said about the 7e7 and other future boeings. More then 60% of the 7e7 will be constructed outside of the USA (notably Japan and Italy).
Boeing and Airbus doesn't give a flying f*ck about patriotic feelings, they care about money
Both the 787 and A380 are impressive achievements, but I think Boeing made the right call in designing a super-efficient, rather than super-huge, aircraft. The airline industry isn't what it used to be.
Also, now that I'm studying composites, the ability to make an all-composite fuselage with no defects seems more impressive to me than just making a really big airplane.
Also, now that I'm studying composites, the ability to make an all-composite fuselage with no defects seems more impressive to me than just making a really big airplane.
the booming Asian and Middle-East airline industry disagree with you. They are convinced that the A380 is the right plane at the right time. They want to use their precious slots more efficiently.
In the end, I think both the A380 and 787 will have a bright future because they are not direct competitors. The 787 and the A350 will be a battleground for sure
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The A350 seemes like a half-assed response to the 787 when it became clear that Boeing was actually going to produce it in quantity and people were interested in buying it. AFAIK, the A350 is still completely a paper airplane which explains the lukewarm reception it seems to be getting from the buyers.
Also several asian countries have recently ordered large numbers of Boeing aircraft including the 787.
The next few years should be interesting.
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Yeah, with US airlines the trend has been going smaller. Go to just about any major airport in the US and see how many regional jets you see, though mainly Embraer (Brazilian), and Canadiar. And the A318/19/20's and the Embraer 170 have cut into 737 sales. Southwest talked about buying 17x/19x's, but I haven't heard anything recently. Anyone know?
unfortunately, in many devloping nations(india and china, >1/3 of thw world's pop come to mind) need these superhuge aircraft because, it is truly to get some tickets on a trip from IAD(Washington D.C.) to PVG (shanghai) without a premium unless you buy many months early. it is just too hard to find an empty seat on one of those 777/747s. for many now booming nations(read: not USA) without many medium sized airports to accompany 7E7s, the airlines are going to look toward the Airbuses for aircraft.
7E7 is more of an European product and the
A380 is more of an asian/middle east/africa(hopefully sooner or later) product.
I think Airbus made a huge mistake by creating a super-jumbo aircraft. Boeing made the right move by going for a more fuel efficient plane.
Then again, I don't know whose problem it is ... if it's Airbus' or the airports who can't fit them on the runway and tarmac.
Then again, I don't know whose problem it is ... if it's Airbus' or the airports who can't fit them on the runway and tarmac.
it's not all fuel effiency. there are set overheads. at all airports, you arel imited to a specific number of flights in/out a day. when they are used up, you're done. for busier airports with many airlines competing fro a limited number os spaces, the a380 might be a blessing.
also, you still need a set # of pilots, navigators, service men and women to keep a plane running. the fewer the palnes, the less overhead costs and so in the end, even if it is 15-20% more fuel efficent, real cost savings might be no more than 3-4% max.
I've flown a lot for someone only 18 years old. I fly 747s every year transpacific, if not sometimes twice a year. I fly across the US a lot and I've been to Europe a few times.
I recently flew in an A330 from Thailand to Taiwan. It was very new. I read that Eva Air just received A330s months ago and there was like a friggn new plane smell. Everything was new and it was kick@$$.
Ive ridden on 767s and 757s for crossing the US and for crossing the atlantic but I have yet to ride a triple 7.
Boeing is an awesome company, but it seems Airbus is able to fight very well. I used to take 737s for midrange flights, but now I'm flying on A320s from SFO to ATL.
The A350 is supposed to be Airubs' response to the 787, and it seems its a better product than the 787 so far.
I recently flew in an A330 from Thailand to Taiwan. It was very new. I read that Eva Air just received A330s months ago and there was like a friggn new plane smell. Everything was new and it was kick@$$.
Ive ridden on 767s and 757s for crossing the US and for crossing the atlantic but I have yet to ride a triple 7.
Boeing is an awesome company, but it seems Airbus is able to fight very well. I used to take 737s for midrange flights, but now I'm flying on A320s from SFO to ATL.
The A350 is supposed to be Airubs' response to the 787, and it seems its a better product than the 787 so far.
The airlines think otherwise. 200+ orders for the 787 vs 10 for the a350. not even "time on market" can explain away that.
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