Airbus A380 - World's largest passenger airliner - First Flight

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GTaudiophile

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You know the Boeing execs. are watching and having a sh!tty morning.

Airbus has been on a role the past 10-15 years, relaeasing new model after new model, and what has Boeing done in that time? Released the 777? Boeing stagnated for far too long and now they are suffering the consequences.
 

Doctorweir

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Originally posted by: Baked
Did it crash? Didn't they say it's the most unsafe commercial aircraft possible? How when emergency occurs, there's no way to evacuate the 600 people aboard?

Boeing propaganda, he? :p
 

crab

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
You know the Boeing execs. are watching and having a sh!tty morning.

Airbus has been on a role the past 10-15 years, relaeasing new model after new model, and what has Boeing done in that time? Released the 777? Boeing stagnated for far too long and now they are suffering the consequences.

Well, the 737-600,700,800,900 since the mid-late 90s. They're much advanced versions of the 737 line.

777-200 (1994), 777-200ER (1997), 777-200LR (2005), 777-300 (1997), 777-300ER (2003)

767-400 (1999)

757-300 (1999)

747-400ER (2002)

717 (1999)

All of these aircraft designed and produced circa early-mid 90s.

The last truely new family of aircraft designed by Airbus is the A340 in 1992. The rest are modified/upgraded shortened/stretched aircraft - just like Boeing has been doing.
 

Calin

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It is normal to pay more attention to safety than in any aircraft before. This is the general tendency.
However, 600 passengers in 90 seconds... maybe with well prepared passengers. I fear much more of an outburst of insanity in the plane than of actually burning with the aircraft on fire on the ground
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: crab
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
You know the Boeing execs. are watching and having a sh!tty morning.

Airbus has been on a role the past 10-15 years, relaeasing new model after new model, and what has Boeing done in that time? Released the 777? Boeing stagnated for far too long and now they are suffering the consequences.

Well, the 737-600,700,800,900 since the mid-late 90s. They're much advanced versions of the 737 line.

777-200 (1994), 777-200ER (1997), 777-200LR (2005), 777-300 (1997), 777-300ER (2003)

767-400 (1999)

757-300 (1999)

747-400ER (2002)

717 (1999)

All of these aircraft designed and produced circa early-mid 90s.

The last truely new family of aircraft designed by Airbus is the A340 in 1992. The rest are modified/upgraded shortened/stretched aircraft - just like Boeing has been doing.

Don't forget the 787.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: crab
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
You know the Boeing execs. are watching and having a sh!tty morning.

Airbus has been on a role the past 10-15 years, relaeasing new model after new model, and what has Boeing done in that time? Released the 777? Boeing stagnated for far too long and now they are suffering the consequences.

Well, the 737-600,700,800,900 since the mid-late 90s. They're much advanced versions of the 737 line.

777-200 (1994), 777-200ER (1997), 777-200LR (2005), 777-300 (1997), 777-300ER (2003)

767-400 (1999)

757-300 (1999)

747-400ER (2002)

717 (1999)

All of these aircraft designed and produced circa early-mid 90s.

The last truely new family of aircraft designed by Airbus is the A340 in 1992. The rest are modified/upgraded shortened/stretched aircraft - just like Boeing has been doing.

Don't forget the 787.

Indeed.

That one has Airbus worried, though they are trying to hide it.
 

marvdmartian

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It has 16 emergency exits and can be emptied in 90 secs.

Wouldn't that be the same as saying it has 600 retards on it, who will instantly forget where the nearest exit is, and completely panic at the first sign of trouble?? ;)

Hopefully the airports that re-design for this behemoth will make it so 2 jetways will connect to it? Bad enough offloading a 747 with one jetway, I can't imagine how long it would take to deplane this monstrosity!! :shocked:

I did fly JAL one time, and they did the 2 jetways to offload a 747. Man, I've never seen one of those bad boys empty so fast! Less than half the time than normal for one jetway, and less chance of getting stuck behind the idiot who can't remember which overhead compartment they left their oversized carryon in. Man, I'd give good money to punch those idiots in the back of their heads!! :laugh:
 

falconx80

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Yes its very big >500 tonnes.

I am a software engineer, and I worked on the safety software for the fuel system of this plane. Its amazing that this plane actually took off, flew 4 hours safely, and landed.

The test flight is from AUK France at Toulouse facilities.

If you are interested in more pictures of this plane you can visit
http://www.airbus.com or
http://www.planepictures.net/
 
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
You know the Boeing execs. are watching and having a sh!tty morning.

Airbus has been on a role the past 10-15 years, relaeasing new model after new model, and what has Boeing done in that time? Released the 777? Boeing stagnated for far too long and now they are suffering the consequences.
Things aren't too shtty. They just got a lot of big orders.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050426/boeing.html?.v=4

 

Jeff7181

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Whew... damn... I was wondering when they'd get this thing in the air. The airline industry is booming... it's nearly impossible to fly anywhere, everything is booked solid. Thank god for 500+ seat aircraft! :roll:
 

BillyBatson

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Originally posted by: pecel
Time for Boeing R.I.P :p

nah i doubt this super jumbo thign will do too well, the cost is just too great and if for any reaosn 1 gets grounded a lot more ppl miss their fligth than if 1 smaller aircraft is grounded
whatevers still cool
 

Slickone

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You know, I'm a pilot and an aviation buff, so I enjoy watching the A380 too, but this "death to Boeing" stuff in the forums is just plain stupid, especially if you live in the US. Why in the world would it helpful to you if Boeing died? You realize Boeing makes many of the military's products that protect you, from aircraft to cruise missle defense? Even the GPS satellites that the navigation system in your pimpin ride uses? What about the jobs they provide? Is competition bad?

So the 380 can be evacuated in X number of seconds, but is that in a perfect situation, when people are expecting an evacuation drill and have even planned their evacuation routes? What about in an unexpected crash, with panic among both pax and attendants, will everyone divide up equally, file single file, and go to their correct respective exit that quickly?

Originally posted by: pecel
Time for Boeing R.I.P :p
Don't like American companies? Why do you live here?


Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
You know the Boeing execs. are watching and having a sh!tty morning.

Airbus has been on a role the past 10-15 years, relaeasing new model after new model, and what has Boeing done in that time? Released the 777? Boeing stagnated for far too long and now they are suffering the consequences.
Did you miss their new release two months ago? How about the recent 737NG's, 717-200, etc. Or the upcoming 787 (which will be replacing some A300's)?
Boeing unveils longest-flying jet. Don't say anything about it not being a brand new design. Why waste billions developing a brand new design when you already have one that works so well? Airbus does the same thing. The military does as well as far as buying.

March '05
The 787 launch helped Boeing end 2004 with a nearly 14 percent net increase in orders for its commercial airplanes. It has received deposits from customers securing nearly 260 787 aircraft, committing the first two years of planned production deliveries. In total, 191 firm orders have been taken from 15 airlines for the 787. Boeing also delivered 285 commercial airplanes as scheduled and plans to increase production to 320 aircraft in 2005, with further increases anticipated in 2006.

Apr. 26 '05
Boeing has talked down the threat posed by the A380, notably saying that few airports in the world had been modified to take the bulk of the new superjumbo, despite Airbus' claims that 50 were ready.

The U.S. company also has embarked on a midsize long-range aircraft it is calling the 787 Dreamliner. Boeing is also looking at further modifying its aging 747 to take 450 passengers.

Boeing scored two victories this week in its trans-Atlantic battle with Airbus with announcements of major purchases by Air Canada and Air India.

On Monday, Air Canada's parent company said it had made firm orders for 18 Boeing 777 jets and 14 of the company's 787 Dreamliner jets in a deal worth $5 billion at list prices.

As part of a plan to overhaul Air Canada's fleet, parent ACE Aviation Holdings said it also had options to buy a further 18 more 777 jets and 46 more 787s. (Full story)

And the board of India's state-owned international airline, Air India, has approved an order to purchase 50 Boeing aircraft worth $8 billion, Boeing executives in Mumbai confirmed to CNN.

The Boeing planes included in the deal are eight 777-200LR ultra long-range models, 15 777-300ER long-range aircraft with 350 seats and 27 787 long-range aircraft with 250 seats.



 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
You know the Boeing execs. are watching and having a sh!tty morning.

Airbus has been on a role the past 10-15 years, relaeasing new model after new model, and what has Boeing done in that time? Released the 777? Boeing stagnated for far too long and now they are suffering the consequences.

a lot easier when you don't have to deal with risks because the EU gives you 0 interest 'loans' and will bail you out if you fail regardless.
 

GTaudiophile

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Actually, looking at the A380 vs. 747 specs, it would not be too hard for Boeing to modify the aircraft to keep it competitive.

The 747 cruises faster and only lacks about 600KM in range. I'M sure if you strapped four of the latest Rolls Royce Trent engines onto the 747, it could match or exceed the A380 in those categories. Seating is where the 747 comes up short. My guess is Boeing could build a 747-500ER with a typical seating configuration of 500 and a max of 600.

The 747 has the added selling point of not needing modified airports and a long and successful track record.