theeedude
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its a MiG-29 belonging to Russia.. its at the farnbarough international airshow. along with the other aircraft.
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Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Where exactly are you getting this information?
Yes, but cheaper tickets >> slight inconvenience.
Isn't this why they have buses on the tarmac and travelators in terminals for? You obviously need to travel some more.
The A380 is a big passanger timewaster. But if could prove usefull if China decides to jump on the Illegal Immigration Bandwagon that was started by Mexico. One A380 is a heck of a lot cheaper than providing food and healthcare for 15 million Chinnese Citizens.
You
I am getting this information from two personal and very credible sources:
I have family who worked in the Airline Buisness and know a Commercial Pilot. Continental Airlines former CEO Gordon Bethune said (in a company newsletter) that they had looked in to acquireing an A380 but there would be no real advantage to using it over the other planes in the Company's fleet. Two, Southwest airlines is the most profitable corporation in the buisness and they choose to use the smallest plane Boeing makes: The 737. Three I have flown on countless 747 Jumbo Jets and I cannot even begin to count the number of empty seats. An A380 would not be much better and those extra empty seats would cost the company more money and they in return would have to charge a higher ticket fee.
Three a close contact in the Airline industry told me that the trucks on the A380 are so big and so wide that it cannot turn around or steer it's way off 99% of America's runways.
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Originally posted by: B00ne
Originally posted by: Googer
It's so big that Airport terminals cannot accomodate it. In order to board such a beast, you will have to walk from the front enterance to the last terminal then walk some more all the way accross the tarmac and then stand in line and wait to be boarded. Once you are boarded, you will have to wait even longer for every one else to get on.
Finaly the plane takes off and the flight is smooth but when time comes for you to land. THe process will start all over but in reverese
Wait to get off, walk accross 1 mile of tarmac, walk some more, and keep walking.
The A380 is a big passanger timewaster. But if could prove usefull if China decides to jump on the Illegal Immigration Bandwagon that was started by Mexico. One A380 is a heck of a lot cheaper than providing food and healthcare for 15 million Chinnese Citizens.
I guess Airbus, and all the airlines that ordered it should have asked you before they made their decision.
btw it aint that much bigger than a 747 - and that is the plane the 380 could be compared with not the 787, which is a different different concept. Like van vs. a bus
Most airlines are now cancelling their orders.
ok youre officially a dumbass..
its a MiG-29 belonging to the soviet air demonstation team..
as has been posted 4 times above..
and if you think that looks anything like a Hornet youre blind and stupid.
nCred
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umm nope..Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: B00ne
Originally posted by: Googer
It's so big that Airport terminals cannot accomodate it. In order to board such a beast, you will have to walk from the front enterance to the last terminal then walk some more all the way accross the tarmac and then stand in line and wait to be boarded. Once you are boarded, you will have to wait even longer for every one else to get on.
Finaly the plane takes off and the flight is smooth but when time comes for you to land. THe process will start all over but in reverese
Wait to get off, walk accross 1 mile of tarmac, walk some more, and keep walking.
The A380 is a big passanger timewaster. But if could prove usefull if China decides to jump on the Illegal Immigration Bandwagon that was started by Mexico. One A380 is a heck of a lot cheaper than providing food and healthcare for 15 million Chinnese Citizens.
I guess Airbus, and all the airlines that ordered it should have asked you before they made their decision.
btw it aint that much bigger than a 747 - and that is the plane the 380 could be compared with not the 787, which is a different different concept. Like van vs. a bus
Most airlines are now cancelling their orders.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5405524.stm
theeedude
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Can you read?
But then I guess Dallas and LA arent considered in this great US of A because of too many "illegal aliens" who should all be dragged into the street and shot and "worthless minorities" who are tying to destroy this beautiful country of yours huh? Maybe every non american should jsut die in a fire?
Just leave already you've been proven wrong again and again. Your personal anecdotes and heresy cant hold water.
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: B00ne
Originally posted by: Googer
It's so big that Airport terminals cannot accomodate it. In order to board such a beast, you will have to walk from the front enterance to the last terminal then walk some more all the way accross the tarmac and then stand in line and wait to be boarded. Once you are boarded, you will have to wait even longer for every one else to get on.
Finaly the plane takes off and the flight is smooth but when time comes for you to land. THe process will start all over but in reverese
Wait to get off, walk accross 1 mile of tarmac, walk some more, and keep walking.
The A380 is a big passanger timewaster. But if could prove usefull if China decides to jump on the Illegal Immigration Bandwagon that was started by Mexico. One A380 is a heck of a lot cheaper than providing food and healthcare for 15 million Chinnese Citizens.
I guess Airbus, and all the airlines that ordered it should have asked you before they made their decision.
btw it aint that much bigger than a 747 - and that is the plane the 380 could be compared with not the 787, which is a different different concept. Like van vs. a bus
Most airlines are now cancelling their orders.
Most? How about only 1? FedEx.
Again, you're just pulling facts out of your a$$ instead of backing them up with links. You have to wrap your mind around the idea that there is an aviation market outside the United States. It doesn't make sense for a airline to fly a 380 from Atlanta to Houston, for example. It does, however, make a lot of sense to fly a 380 trans-Atlantic or trans-Pacific.
And what segments did you fly an empty 747 on?
Unlikely
Likely
BZZZZZT! Wrong. Again, citation needed.
Airbus has always made terrible planes, this is no exception. Everytime I fly in an airbus, I get a raging migraine.
Just shows how myopic your view on life is. The 380's main market will be flights between the EU/US/Asia, not within those regions. These intercontinental flights rarely have empty seats. While the airline industry in this country is in trouble, airlines in Asia are flourishing.
Those are all the airports that are needed. Do you know how many trans-pacific flights go through SFO and LAX? Then you take JFK and look how many trans-atlantic flights go through there. There's plenty of market for the A380, and just because you live in the middle of the US where they don't offer flights to Beijing, Shanghai and Tokyo doesn't mean there's no market for the A380.
Taking 1 airline, Eva Airways which flies to Taipei from SFO for instance, they run 10 flights a week, and when it's holiday season they bump it up to close to 12 - 13. LAX runs 14 flights a week (two a day, midnight and afternoon). This is just 1 airline. I've never investigated other airlines like China Airlines, but I know they have flights EVERYDAY to Taipei. United does the same. So at minimum there's 4 - 5 flights from SFO going to Taipei. Singapore Airlines flies Taipei as well, which bumps it up to maybe 5 - 6 flights MINIMUM. Throw in the fact that some airlines run connections like Asiana or JAL, and you got plenty of 747s flying through SFO. This is just 1 destination. Now take other destinations like Tokyo, Seoul, Hong Kong, Beijing, Shanghai and you have plenty of 747 markets ready for the A380 to enter.
Placebo effect. What if I took emergency cards stamped 737-400 onto your A320 and then you wouldn't get a migraine right?
The plane isn't meant to go from chicago to NY. Its meant to go from international airports to international destinations. Ask someone that frequently travels internationally if they think its too big. You would not spend 12+ hours getting on the plane. And runways? Its concrete and always able to be expanded.
K1052
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There are other issues like spacing in between landings/takeoffs. At airports operating close to capacity at peak times an A380 landing or takeoff could really mess things up waiting for the wake turbulance to clear. It is going to be something of an operational challange to accomodate the plane at many airports.
Expanding runways/taxiways is also not so easy an endevor as most major airports are in develeoped urban or suburban centers. There has been a multi-decade long stuggle (still ongoing) to expand and re-arrainge the runways here at Ohare.
Edit: Also, if A380 production is delayed much more it will start delivering near the time the 747-8s start to roll out of Boeing. That would be decidedly not good for Airbus.
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Say what you want, I hated the plane as soon as I was on it, it looked different and felt different but I didn't think much about it until I felt very ill and had a horrible headache, when I found out that is was an airbus, it basically explained it all. I'd hardly call it a placebo effect.
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I think the "decidedly not goood" stage has already passed for Airbus. If the A380 is delayed that long it falls into the "really fvcking bad" category.
so is this googer idiot just an airbus troll from boeing or something? blatantly making up facts? wtf
I remember thinking the same thing about 5 years ago when Boeing had its production ramp packed with planes to be delivered. Not making anyone money there. Airbus could still get its act together.
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