He's brown. Right there, you alienate a huge portion of your base. Face it, the GOP base is full of bigots. It's just fact.
He's brown. Right there, you alienate a huge portion of your base. Face it, the GOP base is full of bigots. It's just fact.
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
If Jindal / Steele / Palin are the new face of the GOP then Republican better start worrying.
I see Jindal trying to gain national spotlight but not reaching anywhere.
Originally posted by: loki8481
He's brown. Right there, you alienate a huge portion of your base. Face it, the GOP base is full of bigots. It's just fact.
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yes, yes you did.Originally posted by: inspire
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Oh how surprising! I notice you danced all around the two complaints I laid down. I have more, but perhaps you should start with these two instead of merely diverting attention to me?Originally posted by: inspire
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
This guy sounds like a fucking moron. He's talking down to us and coming up with some "you can do it" bullshit. Come on man, tax breaks for housing? Is that all you've got? That doesn't do jack shit.
Yet he's the governor of a state and you aren't.
He got into Harvard Med and Yale Law Schools, and was a Rhodes Scholar.
I guess he should have been a community organizer instead.
Yet believes in intelligent design and thinks exorcisms are real.
Which immediately places Jindal in the "moron" category. :roll:
He's also a ginormous hypocrite, objecting to and criticizing the stim plan as "irresponsible" and yet accepting over $3.7 billion of the planned $3.8 billion for his state.
He's done more for the state of Louisiana than any of the prior countless Democratic governors. And let's get real - I'm sure I can find something that you do that seems pretty stupid to most people - does that mean you're an idiot? Incompetent? That you can't do your job? No. Such snap-judgements are puerile.
No, I didn't. I pointed out that those aspects of him don't affect his ability to perform at his job by using you as an example - the is equally valid no matter who I use as an example, but I thought we might be able to have a better discussion this way.
An effective counter-point for you would be to give an example where either of your two concerns have demonstratively affected his job performance.
Let me know when you find one.
I said he's a moron for pushing to have ID rammed down every school-kid's throat in LA and an idiot for believing that exorcisms are real. And what did you do? You shifted the discussion to me. Lame.
Frankly, those two points alone are sufficient to alienate Jindal for about 90% of Americans right off the bat. About the only ones who might be left supporting him after hearing this, might be the hard-core evangelists and young-earth bible literalists.
And you didn't even bother to address his hypocrisy. If Jindal believes the stim plan is so irresponsible, he should refuse to accept any of the funds for his state. But what does he do instead? He accepts $3.7B instead of $3.8B. Wow, Jindal, way to make a point.
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So you admitted you have no point in defending him since you agree with all criticisms against him (ID issue, exorcisms, hypocrisy on budget). Yet you still support him, sad.Originally posted by: inspire
Eh, whatever - you're making this personal, when it's not meant to be. Grow a thicker skin and act like you've been here.
Sure, his personal views may alienate some voters, and you've got me on the ID stuff (though whether it's as bad as you seem to think it is leads to an entirely different debate - Ramming Big Bang and Uncertainty Principles down our kids' throats doesn't seem to cause as much of a stir). Although, you cited his beliefs rather than his actions, so you're at fault for the red herring, and I'm at fault for biting on it.
As for hypocrisy, I can't really stand up for him there, but his responsibility is to his state.
That "R" after his name means a lot, huh? :laugh:Originally posted by: SP33Demon
So you admitted you have no point in defending him since you agree with all criticisms against him (ID issue, exorcisms, hypocrisy on budget). Yet you still support him, sad.Originally posted by: inspire
Eh, whatever - you're making this personal, when it's not meant to be. Grow a thicker skin and act like you've been here.
Sure, his personal views may alienate some voters, and you've got me on the ID stuff (though whether it's as bad as you seem to think it is leads to an entirely different debate - Ramming Big Bang and Uncertainty Principles down our kids' throats doesn't seem to cause as much of a stir). Although, you cited his beliefs rather than his actions, so you're at fault for the red herring, and I'm at fault for biting on it.
As for hypocrisy, I can't really stand up for him there, but his responsibility is to his state.
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
So you admitted you have no point in defending him since you agree with all criticisms against him (ID issue, exorcisms, hypocrisy on budget). Yet you still support him, sad.Originally posted by: inspire
Eh, whatever - you're making this personal, when it's not meant to be. Grow a thicker skin and act like you've been here.
Sure, his personal views may alienate some voters, and you've got me on the ID stuff (though whether it's as bad as you seem to think it is leads to an entirely different debate - Ramming Big Bang and Uncertainty Principles down our kids' throats doesn't seem to cause as much of a stir). Although, you cited his beliefs rather than his actions, so you're at fault for the red herring, and I'm at fault for biting on it.
As for hypocrisy, I can't really stand up for him there, but his responsibility is to his state.
Originally posted by: loki8481
He's brown. Right there, you alienate a huge portion of your base. Face it, the GOP base is full of bigots. It's just fact.
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Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: loki8481
He's brown. Right there, you alienate a huge portion of your base. Face it, the GOP base is full of bigots. It's just fact.
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I think he's referring to the racist and ignorant crowd who thought Obama was a muslim blah blah blah. Who do you think they'd rather vote for - a black christian dude or a brown indian kinda dude? I don't think some of these people even realise there's a Hindu religion with a billion+ followers.
Originally posted by: halik
Heh I can't help to crack up ... he may as well be wearing "I'm ethnic too" tshirt.
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I think he had some voice coaching too, his inflections sound funny to me (english is not my mother tongue)... it's all up and down up and down as if he's reading a children's book.
Originally posted by: Jiggz
Originally posted by: halik
Heh I can't help to crack up ... he may as well be wearing "I'm ethnic too" tshirt.
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I think he had some voice coaching too, his inflections sound funny to me (english is not my mother tongue)... it's all up and down up and down as if he's reading a children's book.
I know you'd rather listen to Pelosi and see her jump and down for every sentence that BHO finishes. And the fact that now CA credit rating is lower than Louisiana is another proof that someone is doing a better job!
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: loki8481
He's brown. Right there, you alienate a huge portion of your base. Face it, the GOP base is full of bigots. It's just fact.
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I think he's referring to the racist and ignorant crowd who thought Obama was a muslim blah blah blah. Who do you think they'd rather vote for - a black christian dude or a brown indian kinda dude? I don't think some of these people even realise there's a Hindu religion with a billion+ followers.
Bobby Jindal's not a hindu and the depth of condescension for the opposition people are able to muster never ceases to amaze me.
Remember that story Bobby Jindal told in his big speech Tuesday night -- about how during Katrina, he stood shoulder-to-shoulder with a local sheriff who was battling government red tape to try to rescue stranded victims?
Turns out it wasn't actually, you know, true.
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Facts are facts man. I really don't see the Republican base moving forward on issues of race. A brown dude has no chance with the hardcore Republican base.
It doesn't matter if Jindal is a hindu or not, all the Democrats have to do is use his real first name "Piyush" and it'll scare the Republican base. Hell, Jindal won't make it out of the primaries, other Republicans will sandbag him from here to Bombay in every contest.
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Facts are facts man. I really don't see the Republican base moving forward on issues of race. A brown dude has no chance with the hardcore Republican base.
It doesn't matter if Jindal is a hindu or not, all the Democrats have to do is use his real first name "Piyush" and it'll scare the Republican base. Hell, Jindal won't make it out of the primaries, other Republicans will sandbag him from here to Bombay in every contest.
is it tiring being such a bigot?
what are these "facts"?