Aids passes the 1 million mark in America.

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
36,410
616
126
Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
I think it should be manditory testing for life insurance and medical insurance. but I also think smokers should get hit with a higher bit for those two also, why should my life/medical insurance premiums be this high when I'm low risk for most of the things that cost the insurance companies the largest portion?

it is a test for life insuracne. i just got a whole life policy with MET Life and was given a HIV test.
 

EyeMWing

Banned
Jun 13, 2003
15,670
1
0
Yes, combined with bullets. Of course, then there's the issue of how to safely clean the HIV+ blood off the wall.
 

2cpuminimum

Senior member
Jun 1, 2005
578
0
0
You can be carrying HIV for years and still test negative. HIV is frequently spread by people who would test negative for it still.
With mandatory testing of low risk populations, it is a simple exercise in mathematics to prove that the majority of positive test results would be false positives.
ppl with tattoos and piercings should have higher insurance rates to pay for HIV, since those behaviors help spread it.
Mandatory testing would only benefit the profits of the company doing the testing, as is the case with drug testing.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
74,589
986
126
Originally posted by: Skoorb
No. If you contract it in this day and age you are a moron. Why should I get tested? I don't engage, and never have in the sort of activity that would get me HIV. It's a modern-day darwinism.

Agreed. I'm not getting tested. My wife isn't a whore, nor was she before we were married and neither of us sleep around. Complete waste of fvcking time and money for me to get tested.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
64,795
84
91
Originally posted by: Gulzakar
Actually, Aids can be easily wiped out... :)

refuse to treat those who became infected due to gross neglegance...assist those whose infection were "misfortunate" (rape, husband cheating, wife cheating, blood transfusion etc.).

Let the rest die... even if they transmit the disease, mandatory testing will discover those who have it...and eventually they will die ;)

take too long. the human sexuality network sorta is like a network of losely connected star topologies. there are central nodes that do the majority of the spreading. you gotta wipe those suckas out. well.. just mark em so people know.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
83,769
19
81
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
I think it should be manditory testing for life insurance and medical insurance. but I also think smokers should get hit with a higher bit for those two also, why should my life/medical insurance premiums be this high when I'm low risk for most of the things that cost the insurance companies the largest portion?

it is a test for life insuracne. i just got a whole life policy with MET Life and was given a HIV test.

it has become one, probably hep C too.

However, the average 'blood test' is usually just aids/hiv and a few other STDS...there are many that don't get tested for, and HSV and HPV are two of those that cannot be cured.

I am a biology major (7 college years), my mom a OB/GYN Nurse....you have sex you get fvckored at times.


 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
83,769
19
81
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

take too long. the human sexuality network sorta is like a network of losely connected star topologies. there are central nodes that do the majority of the spreading. you gotta wipe those suckas out. well.. just mark em so people know.

those that have 'sigs' of one woman, yet alone two, should not comment.

especially nearly tripling my posts in a year less than me. Shows your poon is online exclusively. That's over 20 a day...you may have a job that can allow that, but it's a little :confused:
 

notfred

Lifer
Feb 12, 2001
38,241
4
0
I did some calculations with thier numbers:

You're over 6 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS if you're black than if you're not.
You're 10 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS if you're gay than if you're not.

A gay black person is 30 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS than a straight, non-black person.

Of those 1 million cases of HIV/AIDS:
210,000 are gay blacks, which is 7.5% of the gay black population.
240,000 are gay non-blacks, which 1.3% of the gay non-black population.
260,000 are straight blacks, which is 0.8% of the straight black population.
290,000 are straight non-blacks, which is 0.1% of the straight non-black population.

1.3% of blacks are HIV/AIDS positive, as opposed to 0.2% of non-blacks.
2.1% of gay people are HIV/AIDS positive, as opposed to 0.2% of stright people.

These numbers use 2000 US census data for population and ethinc information. The gay population was estimated to be 7.5% of the total population, and evenly spread among ethnic groups.

Everything is rounded to within about 0.1%.
 

beer

Lifer
Jun 27, 2000
11,169
1
0
Originally posted by: notfred
I did some calculations with thier numbers:

You're over 6 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS if you're black than if you're not.
You're 10 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS if you're gay than if you're not.

A gay black person is 30 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS than a straight, non-black person.

Of those 1 million cases of HIV/AIDS:
210,000 are gay blacks, which is 7.5% of the gay black population.
240,000 are gay non-blacks, which 1.3% of the gay non-black population.
260,000 are straight blacks, which is 0.8% of the straight black population.
290,000 are straight non-blacks, which is 0.1% of the straight non-black population.

1.3% of blacks are HIV/AIDS positive, as opposed to 0.2% of non-blacks.
2.1% of gay people are HIV/AIDS positive, as opposed to 0.2% of stright people.

These numbers use 2000 US census data for population and ethinc information. The gay population was estimated to be 7.5% of the total population, and evenly spread among ethnic groups.

Everything is rounded to within about 0.1%.

Notfred makes a good point, however also consider that of the straight, non-blacks, you need to factor intravaneous drug users. The reality is that if you are a heterosexual non-black who doesn't use intravaneous drugs and get involved with women who run in the same social class, your chance of HIV is very, very, very small.
 

AntiEverything

Senior member
Aug 5, 2004
939
0
0
Originally posted by: 2cpuminimum
ppl with tattoos and piercings should have higher insurance rates to pay for HIV, since those behaviors help spread it.
:roll: Whatever you say... :roll:
 

Medea

Golden Member
Dec 5, 2000
1,606
0
0
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
If 51% of people with AIDS/HIV are black, and 45% of those with AIDS/HIV are gay, I wonder how many are black and gay?
I have heard that a good majority of HIV positive homosexuals are African Americans. Particularly something about being on the low-down.
Is any of this true?


The most recent stats that I could find and which were based on CDC reports are:
United States
White
376,834
Black
368,169
Latino
172,993

# Transmission mode varies regionally throughout the U.S. In California, nearly 77% of cumulative AIDS cases are attributed to the combined risk factors of MSM (Men who have Sex with Men) and MSM /IDU. This figure compares to over 54% nationally for the same combined categories.
# According to the CDC, during 2003 new HIV infections in 41 areas with confidential name-based HIV reporting indicate that 18% are attributable to heterosexual sex and 34% to sex between men. Twelve percent are due directly to injection drug use.
# According to the CDC, in 2003, estimates of AIDS diagnoses in the United States increased among Caucasians (by 2%), African Americans (by 4%), Latinos and Asian/Pacific Islanders (by 9%), while remaining unchanged among American Indian/Alaska natives.

Re: the original question regarding mandatory testing - IMO, given the current rights of privacy, mandatory testing will do nothing to offset the spread of AIDS.

 

Gigantopithecus

Diamond Member
Dec 14, 2004
7,664
0
71
Originally posted by: Ronstang
The fear mongers still don't get the fact that HIV is a "lifestyle" disease and is 100% preventable. The chances of the average American contracting HIV even through unprotected heterosexual sex is rather remote....unless one or both partners fit into the high risk groups.

Source?
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
64,795
84
91
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

take too long. the human sexuality network sorta is like a network of losely connected star topologies. there are central nodes that do the majority of the spreading. you gotta wipe those suckas out. well.. just mark em so people know.

those that have 'sigs' of one woman, yet alone two, should not comment.

especially nearly tripling my posts in a year less than me. Shows your poon is online exclusively. That's over 20 a day...you may have a job that can allow that, but it's a little :confused:


wow hostile boy, who shat in your soup today? never heard of multitasking eh? or do you read less than 1 word per second?

its not my opinion. i read it in new scientist a while back. its not a secret and is knowlege that comes from the result of scientific studies.

you sound bitter, maybe you should look at yourself first before commenting on others.