Ahmadinejad says Israel will soon disappear

[Duwelon]

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For all our sakes, I hope this guy is just all bark and no bite but I hate to come off as a boogeyman to the Left by simply presenting the facts, but this country is hell-bent on building all the technology infrastructure needed to both build and deliver a nuclear warhead to anywhere in the region.

If this keeps I personally predict something bad is going to happen very soon. This guy believe's he's going to usher in the Islamic Messiah and from that mindset I can see why he's so brazen about promising that Israel "will soon disappear".

What is your thoughts on this guy, all talk or should he be bombed straight to his 70 virgins if he continues to ignore the demands of the UN?

 

[Kappo]

Fear not! The UN will sanction them! That and loving talk will be the answer, I'm sure.

 

[Sacrilege]

This has been discussed ad nauseum here, Ahmadinejad is a rhetorical clown who is very effective at pushing American right wingers' buttons by playing right into their fears.

The real power in Iran is the Supreme Council which is always very quiet, pulls the strings, and we can't be sure what their ambitions are. Needless to say they probably like their positions of power and are therefore much more pragmatic and wouldn't risk the future of Iran in some flippant nuclear foray.

 

[Kappo]

Originally posted by: Sacrilege
This has been discussed ad nauseum here, Ahmadinejad is a rhetorical clown who is very effective at pushing American right wingers' buttons by playing right into their fears.

The real power in Iran is the Supreme Council which is always very quiet, pulls the strings, and we can't be sure what their ambitions are. Needless to say they probably like their positions of power and are therefore much more pragmatic and wouldn't risk the future of Iran in some blatant nuclear foray.

Hey now, give Obama credit where credit is due!

He could go over there and give him a stern talking to and straighten things out!

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Kappo
Fear not! The UN will sanction them! That and loving talk will be the answer, I'm sure.

I would rather Obama try and rationally discuss issues with him, and have Israel standby ready to bomb them back to the stone age than have the US do it. Unless of course you now support the US following an interventionist policy.

 

[DealMonkey]

He's probably just trying to spike oil prices.

 

[Kappo]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Kappo
Fear not! The UN will sanction them! That and loving talk will be the answer, I'm sure.

I would rather Obama try and rationally discuss issues with him, and have Israel standby ready to bomb them back to the stone age than have the US do it. Unless of course you now support the US following an interventionist policy.

Actually, that's what I would prefer as well... damn idea thief. Let me have my fun, for the love of god.

 

[Genx87]

Makes you wonder what will happen if Iran plows through Obama's pretty speeches, the UN's stern talking too, and developes nukes and somehow delivers them to Israel.

Think any of the lefties will be man enough to admit failure?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Makes you wonder what will happen if Iran plows through Obama's pretty speeches, the UN's stern talking too, and developes nukes and somehow delivers them to Israel.

Think any of the lefties will be man enough to admit failure?

You saw what happened when Syria became close to getting the bomb. It won't happen.

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: Sacrilege
This has been discussed ad nauseum here, Ahmadinejad is a rhetorical clown who is very effective at pushing American right wingers' buttons by playing right into their fears.

The real power in Iran is the Supreme Council which is always very quiet, pulls the strings, and we can't be sure what their ambitions are. Needless to say they probably like their positions of power and are therefore much more pragmatic and wouldn't risk the future of Iran in some flippant nuclear foray.

I've read over and over that Ahmadinajad is not the supreme leader but that doesn't mean anything. Basically not in so many words some people are discounting Iran as beneign because they wish and Hope they aren't what Ahmadinjad makes them appear to be.

This is what, the 10th or 15th time he's said this. Don't you think the "supreme" leaders would put him on a leash and mouth gag if they didn't agree with him?

I can understand your caution in dealing with Iran but I simply cannot fathom the complete dismissal of any ambition to take his words seriously. Yes it's human nature to fear the unknown and yes that's not always good but when you have an unknown allowing hateful bigoted statements about a whole country coming out of it, how can you possibly rationalize that unknown as harmless and still be taken seriously?

 

[DarkThinker]

Well....I guess RichardE better say his prayer for Israel quick now hehe

 

[brandonb]

They are Axis of Evil. Lets get em boys!

Seriously. Who cares? Both the USA and Israel has n-bombs. If Syria, Iran, or Iraq want them, who's for us to say otherwise? If we go in and wipe them out like we did with Iraq, we'd be the Tyrants. I don't care what you think, but we are more dangerous than they will ever be. So is Israel, and they have n-bombs given to them from the United States. To me that's more scary than Ahmadinejad.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Makes you wonder what will happen if Iran plows through Obama's pretty speeches, the UN's stern talking too, and developes nukes and somehow delivers them to Israel.

To think that Iran would preemptively launch a nuke at Israel, or any other country for that matter, is insane.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: brandonb
They are Axis of Evil. Lets get em boys!

Seriously. Who cares? Both the USA and Israel has n-bombs. If Syria, Iran, or Iraq want them, who's for us to say otherwise? If we go in and wipe them out like we did with Iraq, we'd be the Tyrants. I don't care what you think, but we are more dangerous than they will ever be. So is Israel, and they have n-bombs given to them from the United States. To me that's more scary than Ahmadinejad.

Only because you're blind. Nuking a neighbor so the radiation affects their own country? Don't think so. Israel could wipe out Iran and the palestinians with standard munitions if they wanted to. If Iran or the palestinians had the power to kill every person in Israel they'd do it in a heartbeat. That's the difference.

If terrorist sponsoring incredibly unstable countries want atomics, who are we to say otherwise? The question provides the answer.

The only reason I don't care or worry too much about them is because no matter who the US president is, we aint letting them build a nuke reactor, and if we have to keep bombing it everytime they build one, f.i.n.e.

 

[DealMonkey]

Shouldn't we just allow Iran to build a nuke in order to hasten the rapture? I thought that was the evangelical consensus?

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Genx87
Makes you wonder what will happen if Iran plows through Obama's pretty speeches, the UN's stern talking too, and developes nukes and somehow delivers them to Israel.

To think that Iran would preemptively launch a nuke at Israel, or any other country for that matter, is insane.

The various terrorist factions they sponsor likely would.

 

[Kappo]

Originally posted by: brandonb
They are Axis of Evil. Lets get em boys!

Seriously. Who cares? Both the USA and Israel has n-bombs. If Syria, Iran, or Iraq want them, who's for us to say otherwise? If we go in and wipe them out like we did with Iraq, we'd be the Tyrants. I don't care what you think, but we are more dangerous than they will ever be. So is Israel, and they have n-bombs given to them from the United States. To me that's more scary than Ahmadinejad.

Hmm.. a nation who has many things to lose if they begin to nuke folks indiscriminately or someone who is unstable and has stated that they plan to wipe millions of people off the map?

Gee.. hard decision there...

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Sacrilege
This has been discussed ad nauseum here, Ahmadinejad is a rhetorical clown who is very effective at pushing American right wingers' buttons by playing right into their fears.

The real power in Iran is the Supreme Council which is always very quiet, pulls the strings, and we can't be sure what their ambitions are. Needless to say they probably like their positions of power and are therefore much more pragmatic and wouldn't risk the future of Iran in some flippant nuclear foray.

I've read over and over that Ahmadinajad is not the supreme leader but that doesn't mean anything. Basically not in so many words some people are discounting Iran as beneign because they wish and Hope they aren't what Ahmadinjad makes them appear to be.

This is what, the 10th or 15th time he's said this. Don't you think the "supreme" leaders would put him on a leash and mouth gag if they didn't agree with him?

I can understand your caution in dealing with Iran but I simply cannot fathom the complete dismissal of any ambition to take his words seriously. Yes it's human nature to fear the unknown and yes that's not always good but when you have an unknown allowing hateful bigoted statements about a whole country coming out of it, how can you possibly rationalize that unknown as harmless and still be taken seriously?

Iran has demonized the US as the Great Satan for what, 30 years now? They had national 'death to America day' for awhile too. You know what happened when our interests coincided in Afghanistan? Iran sent out an offer to us after 9/11 to help us in Afghanistan. Does that sound like a country blinded by ideology? Of course not.

When Bush talks about spreading democracy to every corner of the earth, do you actually think he means it? Of course not. It's political rhetoric designed for the people at home. This is the same deal as Ahmadinejad. If you look at Iran's actions compared to his words, you will see an eminently rational country.

Here's a good article from the Brookings Institution on the subject. Here.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Genx87
Makes you wonder what will happen if Iran plows through Obama's pretty speeches, the UN's stern talking too, and developes nukes and somehow delivers them to Israel.

To think that Iran would preemptively launch a nuke at Israel, or any other country for that matter, is insane.

The various terrorist factions they sponsor likely would.

Not without consent from Iran, who would suffer the same consequences either way.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Genx87
Makes you wonder what will happen if Iran plows through Obama's pretty speeches, the UN's stern talking too, and developes nukes and somehow delivers them to Israel.

To think that Iran would preemptively launch a nuke at Israel, or any other country for that matter, is insane.

The various terrorist factions they sponsor likely would.

Not without consent from Iran, who would suffer the same consequences either way.

Yeah, I don't get how these terrorists are just somehow getting nukes from Iran without Iran specifically wanting to nuke someone. Did they leave one out back while the guards went in for a smoke?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Genx87
Makes you wonder what will happen if Iran plows through Obama's pretty speeches, the UN's stern talking too, and developes nukes and somehow delivers them to Israel.

To think that Iran would preemptively launch a nuke at Israel, or any other country for that matter, is insane.

I believe the point, since Achmedinejad is quite insane himself, is that crazy ideas like that slowly start to become real possibilities.

National leaders do not have the luxury of dismissing these type of statements outright. If they do, and it turns out to be prophetic, the fault will lie in our own leadership for failing to prevent such craziness.

I'm not saying that we should do anything drastic in response, but we certainly shouldnt ignore or dismiss them either.

 

[Kappo]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Genx87
Makes you wonder what will happen if Iran plows through Obama's pretty speeches, the UN's stern talking too, and developes nukes and somehow delivers them to Israel.

To think that Iran would preemptively launch a nuke at Israel, or any other country for that matter, is insane.

The various terrorist factions they sponsor likely would.

Not without consent from Iran, who would suffer the same consequences either way.

And you are willing to bet the lives of how many?

Sorry bud, but when dealing with mass murder 9/11 style, you have to take threats seriously.

*edit - I keen spel

 

[jman19]

In that case I guess Ahmadinejad and Iran will soon disappear as well.

On that note, what sacrilege said is spot on. Ahmadinejad is basically all talk. Of course that doesn't mean he shouldn't be watched at all times.

 

[SP33Demon]

This just in, gas is at $6 a gallon for 87 unleaded.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Genx87
Makes you wonder what will happen if Iran plows through Obama's pretty speeches, the UN's stern talking too, and developes nukes and somehow delivers them to Israel.

To think that Iran would preemptively launch a nuke at Israel, or any other country for that matter, is insane.

I believe the point, since Achmedinejad is quite insane himself, is that crazy ideas like that slowly start to become real possibilities.

National leaders do not have the luxury of dismissing these type of statements outright. If they do, and it turns out to be prophetic, the fault will lie in our own leadership for failing to prevent such craziness.

I'm not saying that we should do anything drastic in response, but we certainly shouldnt ignore or dismiss them either.

Ok, so we shouldn't ignore nor dismiss his words. Then what do we do? Send a warning to Iran that their country would no longer exist if their nuke is launched at Israel, or the USA (could they even go that distance?). I think they already know this. No need for Captain Obvious to make an appearance.