Please let a price war start for AGP'ers! I don't want to pay 300.00 for a 7800GS just to see it at 200.00 in 2-3 months..
AGP Price Drop/War?
- Thread starter Cygnus X1
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Pretty much through the entire month of January, Microcenter was selling the X850xt's for $250, which came with a $50MIR. From what I gather, they moved alot of those cards, so I wouldn't look for them to come down again anytime soon.
Can't say about the 7800GS. If it remains top dog of the AGP litter, it may not come down much at all.
Can't say about the 7800GS. If it remains top dog of the AGP litter, it may not come down much at all.
Why was Microcenter the only one with that rebate? Are they in bed with ATI? You would think other etailers could have that deal? But I really like SM3 and HDR on my 6600gt, but I just sold it...So what should I get as a upgrade?at least 50% that is.
apoppin
Lifer
Don't worry about the 7800GS being $200 any time soon. There's no competition in the AGP segment, and supplies of competitor products will eventually dry up. Plus AGP owners are lining up in droves to get one for $300.
If ATI were smart, they'd have dumped their 400 million worth of X800 GPUs onto the AGP market last xmas buying season. They're unlikely to want to start a price war there now. AGPers are a captive market, they have no choice but to pay big premiums for video hardware.
It'll hit $200 when a 7800GT equivalent hits $200. Which probably won't be for at least 6 more months.
If ATI were smart, they'd have dumped their 400 million worth of X800 GPUs onto the AGP market last xmas buying season. They're unlikely to want to start a price war there now. AGPers are a captive market, they have no choice but to pay big premiums for video hardware.
It'll hit $200 when a 7800GT equivalent hits $200. Which probably won't be for at least 6 more months.
Powermoloch
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Sweet bejebus! Just did a price check and even the XL is $340-ish and that's a DMM. Retail ATI brand were going for $230/250 w. tax from Dell last July. The XT AIW was $20 or 30 more if I recall. The original MSRP was $349 and only later lowered to $299 but any way you slice it they are obscenely over-priced now. But hey, there is still the pre-owned market... actually pretty scarce on eBay. If this keeps up I'll be able to sell mine at a profit to someone who wants to upgrade their mobo even less than I do. Ho ho.
apoppin
Lifer
look in Hot Deals forum . . . it was still available yesterday.
and the x850xt is OFF sale . . . it was $200 the ENTIRE month of January.
and now the 7800GS is AGP king
do a 'search' - here in video - the GS beats the XT generally.
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I think he confused it with the PCIe version? The BFG OC for under 2 bills shipped 2 day from ZZF is a good price to performer for AGP right now. Particularly if yours does 16/6 and hits ultra speeds or better.
apoppin
Lifer
yes .. . my bad . . . it IS the PCIe version
i stopped looking at the fine print after i got my xt.
the AGP is ~$200 . . . still a very good deal [imo]
RussianSensation
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Cygnus, you have a socket 939 cpu right? Get a new motherboard like Chaintech VNF4 for $60 or Asrock AGP/PCIe board. Regardless, you'll extend your videocard upgrade path. Your cpu is still adequate so it'll survive at least G80 and R600. You'll have to switch to socket 939 eventually. With 7800GT outperforming GS, with the motherboard together, it'll cost about the same while 7800GT will be much faster.
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Actually, in most benchmarks, the X850 XT PE performs the same or faster than the 7800GS, in very few benchmarks, the 7800GS outperformed the X850XT PE by a little margin, the X850XT PE stills the most powerful AGP videocard on the market period. Though the feature set of the 7800GS is more robust, probably it doesn't have the horsepower to run them all without sacrificing resolutions and anti aliasing.
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_7800_gs_co_superclock_review/
It looks pretty good but price would be the deciding factor. Does the 850 XT PE overclock as well? I personally would not get a 6800 unless it was significantly cheaper due to lack of transparency AA and also the defective PVP. A "7900GS" is listed in the latest driver setup so mebbe that will definitively take the AGP crown but who knows ATI could respond with a peppier X1700XT or something.
It looks pretty good but price would be the deciding factor. Does the 850 XT PE overclock as well? I personally would not get a 6800 unless it was significantly cheaper due to lack of transparency AA and also the defective PVP. A "7900GS" is listed in the latest driver setup so mebbe that will definitively take the AGP crown but who knows ATI could respond with a peppier X1700XT or something.
Newegg has a 7800GS for $299 and they have the eVGA Supeclock reviews by firingsquad for $319. Not bad if you ask me.
For $300 its not bad at its current state, however i predict it will drop to maybe $280 this month alone, and eventually down to $250. Kinda like the 7800gt.
If you read the Firingsquad review of the 7800GS OC superclock you'll see that it performs quiet well vs the X850XT PE even at high resolutions. The only clear advantage the ATI card showed was in FEAR and CoD2. And it had plenty of horsepower to run it's "more robust" feature set without sacrificing res and aa.
No, the 7800GS is the most powerful AGP videocard on the market period. And it's cheaper too.
I agree. The X850XT is faster, however it lacks SM3. The 7800GS is not worth more than $200 IMO. It's not much better than my X800Pro, and I paid less than that for it 6 months ago.
You're talking about your own dead brain, right? The one that AEG pays to post that crap?
According to the AnandTech Review:
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Also, a test summary since you seem to think we'll fall for your crap:
bf2 - 43 nVidia/39 ATI, 31 nVidia/28 ATI - TIE
far cry - 57 nVidia/71 ATI, 39 nVidia/48 ATI - ATI WIN
fear - 29 nVidia/39 ATI, 13 nVidia/22 ATI - ATI WIN
q4 - 66 nVidia/63 ATI, 35 nVidia/35 ATI - TIE
SC:CT - 27 nVidia/49 ATI, 24 nVidia/40 ATI - ATI WIN
For future reference, if you're gonna flame someone, make sure you know you're right about something.
No, I was refering to your brain deadness. According to Firingsquads review:
Also, a test summary since you seem to think we'll fall for your crap:
HL2: Nv - 57.5 ATI - 59.6 Win for ATI
HL2 LC: - NV - 36.1 ATI - 32.1 Win for NV
Bf2: NV - 48.7 ATI - 41.2 Win for NV
Quake4: NV - 55.2 ATI - 43.2 Win for NV
IL2: NV - 50.2 ATI - 40.1 Win for NV
FEAR: NV - 28 ATI - 35 Win for ATI
CoD2: NV - 23.4 ATI - 25 Win for ATI
SS2: NV - 39 ATI - 29.8 Win for NV
Far Cry HDR: NV - 36.4 ATI - Oppss the ATI can't do HDR. Win for NV
For future reference, well, just make sure you know what you're talking about.
IMO the firingsquad numbers are off. Both AnandTech and Tom's Hardware posted similar numbers, and I would trust them more than firingsquad.
Believe it if you want. Even HardOCP wasn't impressed with the card. $350 for that level of performance is insane.
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