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fredtam

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I know quite a few gay people (one is actually a friend) and have told them that I despise their lifestyle.
So this guy that you profess to be your friend you think should get his ass kicked by some strangers in public? Would it please you to hear that? If you're so against it perhaps you should kick his ass? I find it unusual that you're friends with a guy who does something you so despise.

I also have a friend (know him since I was four) who murdered someone. I didn't stop being his friend. I still visit him in jail telling him he was wrong.

Nice people kill people too.

Edit: I wouldn't feel sorry for him if he got his ass kicked especially if he contributed to the confrontation.
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: fredtam
They are tough enough to take it in the shitter but can't take a little ass whoopin.

Maybe we should test you?

I've been jumped for "looking at a group funny", running my mouth, being small and skinny when I was young, and a couple of other times. Common sense dictates if your outnumbered you stfu and go on about your business or go get some friends to help you out. It has been assumed that the way it went down is how he described it which may or may not be the case. I'll probably get banned but in my opinion homosexuality is an immoral act and should be punished. Maybe we should allow child molestation or incest to become mainstream because those people are "born with" urges to do such things. Maybe they should have parades too.

Edit: Yeah I'm the only bigot in this thread who makes stupid comments and generalizations-

It's not filled with bigots and ignorant Houston-white-trash at all.
aggies are generally inbred morons.


Look, I'm not going to dis you or try to convince you... while i haven't had feelings like yours, i have been homophobic to people before, i have been an ass, i have cracked jokes (still do.. sorry, i'm immature), but that was all in H.S. When I went to college (UTAUSTIN), i met a couple of gay people - that, I did not know they were gay. Unfortunately, I'm kinda good looking :D, and so i have been approached by 2 people on separate accounts that later i found out were gay. in any case, i became close friends with one of them. i never slept at his house - yeah, i was scared, i'll admit it, i never changed in front of him, etc... but he was really just a nice, cool guy. one day, you may make friends with a really cool person, and then find out 1 year later - like i did, that they are gay. Will you dis them all of a sudden? I hope not. I hope by the time you are 21, or 22 you will be mature enough to realize that this world is made of different people - and, your pastor isn't always right. Honestly, my gay friends were funnier than my 'straight' friends, smarter (yes, i realize how stupid this sounds, but from my experience, my gay friends were smarter) than my other friends, and just cool. Not to mention, they had hot chick friends :D. i know these may be stereotypes but its actually true too.

anyways, there is a big difference between consenual sex between two adults and child incest/molestation where one party is not fully mature to realize the difference between what is right and wrong. I'm sure i really don't have to explain this to you...


First off I'm over 30 and I don't go to church. I know quite a few gay people (one is actually a friend) and have told them that I despise their lifestyle. I'm not quiet about my beliefs. I don't beat them up or constantly ridicule them however I do consider it a travesty that it has become so accepted.

Wow, so you are 'friends' with the gay guys and then you go and tell them that you despise their lifestyles?

What a great friend. Do you feel better about yourself openly putting people down?

Personally, I couldn't be friends with someone I did not respect.
 

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His reference is to child molestation which was a somewhat bad example on my part. The others are not so easily contested.
Well there are many who say prostitution should not be illegal. I don't think it should be from a moral standpoint. The law should not try to influence morals. Some things that seem illegal due to only morality at face value are in fact illegal for other reasons as well. If you legalize prostitution, you have concern of diseases spreading, maybe more young girls taken into the fold, etc. Quite simply the law has no business dictating morals. To do so would require that we have a definite set of morals as a society, and we obviously don't, so the law can never make everybody happy. It can only please those making it, as they try to bring everybody else towards their own set of morals.
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: fredtam
They are tough enough to take it in the shitter but can't take a little ass whoopin.

Maybe we should test you?

I've been jumped for "looking at a group funny", running my mouth, being small and skinny when I was young, and a couple of other times. Common sense dictates if your outnumbered you stfu and go on about your business or go get some friends to help you out. It has been assumed that the way it went down is how he described it which may or may not be the case. I'll probably get banned but in my opinion homosexuality is an immoral act and should be punished. Maybe we should allow child molestation or incest to become mainstream because those people are "born with" urges to do such things. Maybe they should have parades too.

Edit: Yeah I'm the only bigot in this thread who makes stupid comments and generalizations-

It's not filled with bigots and ignorant Houston-white-trash at all.
aggies are generally inbred morons.


Look, I'm not going to dis you or try to convince you... while i haven't had feelings like yours, i have been homophobic to people before, i have been an ass, i have cracked jokes (still do.. sorry, i'm immature), but that was all in H.S. When I went to college (UTAUSTIN), i met a couple of gay people - that, I did not know they were gay. Unfortunately, I'm kinda good looking :D, and so i have been approached by 2 people on separate accounts that later i found out were gay. in any case, i became close friends with one of them. i never slept at his house - yeah, i was scared, i'll admit it, i never changed in front of him, etc... but he was really just a nice, cool guy. one day, you may make friends with a really cool person, and then find out 1 year later - like i did, that they are gay. Will you dis them all of a sudden? I hope not. I hope by the time you are 21, or 22 you will be mature enough to realize that this world is made of different people - and, your pastor isn't always right. Honestly, my gay friends were funnier than my 'straight' friends, smarter (yes, i realize how stupid this sounds, but from my experience, my gay friends were smarter) than my other friends, and just cool. Not to mention, they had hot chick friends :D. i know these may be stereotypes but its actually true too.

anyways, there is a big difference between consenual sex between two adults and child incest/molestation where one party is not fully mature to realize the difference between what is right and wrong. I'm sure i really don't have to explain this to you...


First off I'm over 30 and I don't go to church. I know quite a few gay people (one is actually a friend) and have told them that I despise their lifestyle. I'm not quiet about my beliefs. I don't beat them up or constantly ridicule them however I do consider it a travesty that it has become so accepted.

Wow, so you are 'friends' with the gay guys and then you go and tell them that you despise their lifestyles?

What a great friend. Do you feel better about yourself openly putting people down?

Personally, I couldn't be friends with someone I did not respect.


He probably has more respect for me because I do voice my opinion. Its not the topic of every conversation but it has been brought up. I have no problem telling a friend that I think he is doing something wrong.

Would I be putting him down if I told him I thought it was wrong that he was cheating on his SO. Again a belief on my part based on morals.
 

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But would it make you upset if your friend got his ass kicked by strangers because of it?
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
His reference is to child molestation which was a somewhat bad example on my part. The others are not so easily contested.
Well there are many who say prostitution should not be illegal. I don't think it should be from a moral standpoint. The law should not try to influence morals. Some things that seem illegal due to only morality at face value are in fact illegal for other reasons as well. If you legalize prostitution, you have concern of diseases spreading, maybe more young girls taken into the fold, etc. Quite simply the law has no business dictating morals. To do so would require that we have a definite set of morals as a society, and we obviously don't, so the law can never make everybody happy. It can only please those making it, as they try to bring everybody else towards their own set of morals.

Some things that seem illegal due to only morality at face value are in fact illegal for other reasons as well. If you legalize homosexuality, you have concern of diseases spreading, maybe more young boys taken into the fold, etc.
 

gwlam12

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Skoorb
His reference is to child molestation which was a somewhat bad example on my part. The others are not so easily contested.
Well there are many who say prostitution should not be illegal. I don't think it should be from a moral standpoint. The law should not try to influence morals. Some things that seem illegal due to only morality at face value are in fact illegal for other reasons as well. If you legalize prostitution, you have concern of diseases spreading, maybe more young girls taken into the fold, etc. Quite simply the law has no business dictating morals. To do so would require that we have a definite set of morals as a society, and we obviously don't, so the law can never make everybody happy. It can only please those making it, as they try to bring everybody else towards their own set of morals.

Some things that seem illegal due to only morality at face value are in fact illegal for other reasons as well. If you legalize homosexuality, you have concern of diseases spreading, maybe more young boys taken into the fold, etc.

please excuse my ignorance, but how does homosexuality spread disease?

and, unless you believe that homosexuality is a choice, how are young boys taken into the fold?
 

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If you legalize homosexuality, you have concern of diseases spreading, maybe more young boys taken into the fold, etc.
What you just said could be said about heterosexuality. I think we should allow heterosexual sex only in cases where procreation is the end-goal. In all others it's just immoral, and people shouldn't use their body as a play ground ;)
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Skoorb
His reference is to child molestation which was a somewhat bad example on my part. The others are not so easily contested.
Well there are many who say prostitution should not be illegal. I don't think it should be from a moral standpoint. The law should not try to influence morals. Some things that seem illegal due to only morality at face value are in fact illegal for other reasons as well. If you legalize prostitution, you have concern of diseases spreading, maybe more young girls taken into the fold, etc. Quite simply the law has no business dictating morals. To do so would require that we have a definite set of morals as a society, and we obviously don't, so the law can never make everybody happy. It can only please those making it, as they try to bring everybody else towards their own set of morals.

Some things that seem illegal due to only morality at face value are in fact illegal for other reasons as well. If you legalize homosexuality, you have concern of diseases spreading, maybe more young boys taken into the fold, etc.

please excuse my ignorance, but how does homosexuality spread disease?

and, unless you believe that homosexuality is a choice, how are young boys taken into the fold?


If fredtam is worried about homosexuality spreading disease... he's hidin something from us!!!

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fredtam

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Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Skoorb
His reference is to child molestation which was a somewhat bad example on my part. The others are not so easily contested.
Well there are many who say prostitution should not be illegal. I don't think it should be from a moral standpoint. The law should not try to influence morals. Some things that seem illegal due to only morality at face value are in fact illegal for other reasons as well. If you legalize prostitution, you have concern of diseases spreading, maybe more young girls taken into the fold, etc. Quite simply the law has no business dictating morals. To do so would require that we have a definite set of morals as a society, and we obviously don't, so the law can never make everybody happy. It can only please those making it, as they try to bring everybody else towards their own set of morals.

Some things that seem illegal due to only morality at face value are in fact illegal for other reasons as well. If you legalize homosexuality, you have concern of diseases spreading, maybe more young boys taken into the fold, etc.

please excuse my ignorance, but how does homosexuality spread disease?

and, unless you believe that homosexuality is a choice, how are young boys taken into the fold?

"concern of diseases spreading". He said that that is why prostitution is illegal but if you need something to back up the statement here you go-




And it cited studies in Australia and the United States showing that increasing numbers of young homosexual men are indulging in risky behavior with unprotected sexual intercourse and frequent partners.

Granted there have been increased efforts to stop disease spread since those studies but ifhomosexuals can decrease disease spread among themselves surely hookers can.
 

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That's just one aspect of their lifestyle. Plenty of heteros get AIDS (yes I realize with a less per capita exposure) and all of the other STDs. And really why should you care if gay guys are getting all of these diseases anyway? The only person they're hurting is themselves, so if they want to engage in risky sex let them have at it.
"concern of diseases spreading". He said that that is why prostitution is illegal but if you need something to back up the statement here you go-
That's one legal, valid, reason that prostitution could be legal. Obviously though a lot of laws are based on an unidentified moral-code, and I don't think they should be.
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: fredtam
They are tough enough to take it in the shitter but can't take a little ass whoopin.

Maybe we should test you?

I've been jumped for "looking at a group funny", running my mouth, being small and skinny when I was young, and a couple of other times. Common sense dictates if your outnumbered you stfu and go on about your business or go get some friends to help you out. It has been assumed that the way it went down is how he described it which may or may not be the case. I'll probably get banned but in my opinion homosexuality is an immoral act and should be punished. Maybe we should allow child molestation or incest to become mainstream because those people are "born with" urges to do such things. Maybe they should have parades too.

Edit: Yeah I'm the only bigot in this thread who makes stupid comments and generalizations-

It's not filled with bigots and ignorant Houston-white-trash at all.
aggies are generally inbred morons.

Oh I'm sorry. I must be a bigot because I judge people based on their actions rather than their sexual orientation like you. The whole civil rights movement was bigoted too wasn't it? After all it criticized bigots.
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: fizmeister
Aggies are terrible, and I'm from Texas.

So, yeah. I'm not surprised.
Many Austinites hold nothing but utter contempt for Aggies. For example, today I worked on the computer of a family friend who graduated from UTexas during the 50s. The topic of TAMU came up and her comments about the school weren't too kind.

Personally, I have no opinion one way or the other except when TAMU plays the Longhorns and then its GO AGGIES!
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: fizmeister
Aggies are terrible, and I'm from Texas.

So, yeah. I'm not surprised.
Many Austinites hold nothing but utter contempt for Aggies. For example, today I worked on the computer of a family friend who graduated from UTexas during the 50s. The topic of TAMU came up and her comments about the school weren't too kind.

Personally, I have no opinion one way or the other except when TAMU plays the Longhorns and then its GO AGGIES!

bastad.
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: fredtam
They are tough enough to take it in the shitter but can't take a little ass whoopin.

Maybe we should test you?

I've been jumped for "looking at a group funny", running my mouth, being small and skinny when I was young, and a couple of other times. Common sense dictates if your outnumbered you stfu and go on about your business or go get some friends to help you out. It has been assumed that the way it went down is how he described it which may or may not be the case. I'll probably get banned but in my opinion homosexuality is an immoral act and should be punished. Maybe we should allow child molestation or incest to become mainstream because those people are "born with" urges to do such things. Maybe they should have parades too.

Edit: Yeah I'm the only bigot in this thread who makes stupid comments and generalizations-

It's not filled with bigots and ignorant Houston-white-trash at all.
aggies are generally inbred morons.

Oh I'm sorry. I must be a bigot because I judge people based on their actions rather than their sexual orientation like you. The whole civil rights movement was bigoted too wasn't it? After all it criticized bigots.

. It's not filled with bigots and ignorant Houston-white-trash at all.

You judged a school and a town based on the actions of a few. You are no less of a bigot than me. You assume that because I'm against homosexuality I advocate violence. As to your civil rights remark I have yet to meet a person of color that wasn't born that way or that can change it (Micheal Jackson excluded). You contend that I should be accepting yet bash me for my beliefs.
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: burnedout
Originally posted by: fizmeister
Aggies are terrible, and I'm from Texas.

So, yeah. I'm not surprised.
Many Austinites hold nothing but utter contempt for Aggies. For example, today I worked on the computer of a family friend who graduated from UTexas during the 50s. The topic of TAMU came up and her comments about the school weren't too kind.

Personally, I have no opinion one way or the other except when TAMU plays the Longhorns and then its GO AGGIES!

bastad.
:p:D
 

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Originally posted by: fredtam
You assume that because I'm against homosexuality I advocate violence.
In light of the topic what else could I'll probably get banned but in my opinion homosexuality is an immoral act and should be punished. mean?
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: fredtam
You assume that because I'm against homosexuality I advocate violence.
In light of the topic what else could I'll probably get banned but in my opinion homosexuality is an immoral act and should be punished. mean?

put them in the corner for time out. DUH!!!


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fredtam

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: fredtam
You assume that because I'm against homosexuality I advocate violence.
In light of the topic what else could I'll probably get banned but in my opinion homosexuality is an immoral act and should be punished. mean?

There are in fact some laws against homosexuality. Unfortunately they are ignored because its now ok to be gay. Its even celebrated. So if there is a law (based on morals) you and others would like to break first hold meetings, maybe a parade or two, get a tv show and make it seem funny, tell people you are born with the urge to do it and can't change, try to make peple feel bad that they are against you, create a political hot topic so politicians want to cater to you.and if all else fails claim its against your civil rights.
 

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Well I just see no need to infringe upon the actions of others if those actions are not hurting me, or anybody else but that other, and that other is a rational adult of right mind - compelled, in this case, by an unavoidable urge. Few, if any, homosexuals voluntarily chose to be that way.
 

fredtam

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"Few, if any, homosexuals voluntarily chose to be that way. "

Back that up please.