Aftermarket 980 vs sapphire Fury video

[Majcric]

I thought it was a strong showing between the two cards. Nice to see the ole 980 still hanging around. Out of curiosity who would you rather do the review? I know H is out and now this reviewer.

 

[Silverforce11]

I thought it was a strong showing between the two cards. Nice to see the ole 980 still hanging around. Out of curiosity who would you rather do the review? I know H is out and now this reviewer.

It's actually fine, a super OC 980 (how many 980 can get 1.58Ghz?) should beat a gimped OC Fury in a few titles.

I only thought it was funny cos Jayz says 980s are $500 while Fury is a bit more, but then he throws a more expensive 980 super OC model at it.

 

[bystander36]

Because its a miracle 980 OC vs basically gimped OC Fury without vcore, from a bias reviewer, ofc its gonna win that contest, if it didnt, that would be the shocking thing.

How do you propose they test them? Maybe you can show us some "unbiased" reviews of them both OC'ed.

Whose to blame for no vcore increases for Fury? Did they use a vcore increase for the 980?

Maybe in time we'll see what you want, but it is not a reviewers fault if the tools to do what you deem acceptable does not exist.

 

[desprado]

Because its a miracle 980 OC vs basically gimped OC Fury without vcore, from a bias reviewer, ofc its gonna win that contest, if it didnt, that would be the shocking thing.

Even if have overclokced GTX 980 to 1560hmz however i am not good at overclocking but i know it hard to believe that people cannot find any thing logically positive about AMD so they provide unnecessary stupid excuses.


Nope, trolling not happening here. Bye...

-Rvenger

 

[Silverforce11]

Let me repeat myself again in case some of you misunderstand.

"A super OC 980 should beat a gimped OC Fury in a few titles."

I have nothing against that, working as intended!

 

[sam_816]

Another massively OC 980 vs Fury Air review, from Jayz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miMaW894kjw

Fury wins 1440p and 4K (bigger win).

His 980 is a golden sample too, he manages a 1.58Ghz OC on it. That one is apparently more expensive than Fury Air, but Jayz uses reference 980 $$ to compare to Fury then throws it against a huge OC 980.

Basically tries to stack it against AMD and it still fails. Man, any fool can be a youtube reviewer these days.

I see his vids for epic fail jokes he pulls(haven't seen this vid tho)

1.58ghz!! What was the power draw and noise level?

 

[desprado]

Let me repeat myself again in case some of you misunderstand.

"A super OC 980 should beat a gimped OC Fury in a few titles."

I have nothing against that, working as intended!

So whos fault is that that Fury totally a garbage at overclocking?

In red team mind though it is reviewer or Nvidia fault that fury is a joke at overclocking.

 

[Silverforce11]

So whos fault is that that Fury totally a garbage at overclocking?

In red team mind though it is reviewer or Nvidia fault that fury is a joke at overclocking.

Are you lacking reading comprehension, nowhere did anyone blame the lack of vcore OC on anyone but AMD.

The problem with the review in question, is the guy claims 980 is $500 and saying its good value compared to Fury, when he actually uses a much more expensive ($575) model to get his data and summary.

A high OC model with out of box boost >1.4Ghz at "stock" that loses 1440p and more at 4K.

It takes 1.58Ghz 980 to beat Fury in a few titles. So, more expensive, miracle OC to beat Fury, apparently thats better value and recommends.

Pity the fools who listens to such a reviewer, finds their 980 can't get >1.5Ghz and is slower.. rather than one who buys the cheaper Fury, soon gets vcore mod (Unwinder is working on it), and gets another 15% OC on Fury.

 

[tential]

Anandtech.com
A forum where you talk about OCing on 2 cards, when you know when cards full OC potential is no where close to unlocked yet, and just completely ignore that fact.....

You guys act like today is the only day ever and that Fury's OC performance is hardset and won't change with the proper tools....

 

[Rvenger]

Are you lacking reading comprehension, nowhere did anyone blame the lack of vcore OC on anyone but AMD.

The problem with the review in question, is the guy claims 980 is $500 and saying its good value compared to Fury, when he actually uses a much more expensive ($575) model to get his data and summary.

A high OC model with out of box boost >1.4Ghz at "stock" that loses 1440p and more at 4K.

It takes 1.58Ghz 980 to beat Fury in a few titles. So, more expensive, miracle OC to beat Fury, apparently thats better value and recommends.

Pity the fools who listens to such a reviewer, finds their 980 can't get >1.5Ghz and is slower.. rather than one who buys the cheaper Fury, soon gets vcore mod (Unwinder is working on it), and gets another 15% OC on Fury.

Silverforce11, I think it is time you quit taking the bait. Seriously

-Rvenger

 

[tkrushing]

Anandtech.com
A forum where you talk about OCing on 2 cards, when you know when cards full OC potential is no where close to unlocked yet, and just completely ignore that fact.....

You guys act like today is the only day ever and that Fury's OC performance is hardset and won't change with the proper tools....

Well it remains to be seen so when those tools do come, we'll see if it even makes much of a difference. Stock OC is trash so I would put money on having to overvolt it pretty high to get even a modest OC.

 

[ocre]

Another massively OC 980 vs Fury Air review, from Jayz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miMaW894kjw

Fury wins 1440p and 4K (bigger win).

His 980 is a golden sample too, he manages a 1.58Ghz OC on it. That one is apparently more expensive than Fury Air, but Jayz uses reference 980 $$ to compare to Fury then throws it against a huge OC 980.

Basically tries to stack it against AMD and it still fails. Man, any fool can be a youtube reviewer these days.

I see the gtx980 overclocked vs the Fury air overclocked the gtx 980 wins 3 out of 4 @ 4k and 4 out of 4 @ 1080p and 1440.

Because its a miracle 980 OC vs basically gimped OC Fury without vcore, from a bias reviewer, ofc its gonna win that contest, if it didnt, that would be the shocking thing.

So you post a video and make claims that are pretty much 100% opposite of it and your excuse is "because it's a miracle 980OC". That doesn't make it cool to misrepresent!!

then you go on to call the review biased?

I agree that is huge overclock though

 

[Silverforce11]

It wins on "stock". It loses OC v OC.

 

[bystander36]

It wins on "stock". It loses OC v OC.

To me, it shows that the cards are much closer to being similar than the stock comparisons show. AMD pushed the stock clocks to the ragged edge to compete, when in reality, the 980ti was quite a bit faster, and the 980 isn't far behind it.

Perhaps future OC tools will change things, but as it stands now, that is what I gather.

 

[flopper]

same gaming experience as well with the fury x and 980ti
get it guys get it?

 

[Silverforce11]

I wonder if a 1.58Ghz 980 would match or beat a stock 980Ti as well... hmm.

 

[guskline]

I took the plunge and bought the EVGA GTX980 TI SC which I water cooled to replace my Twin R9 290s under water in my rig below and I'm pleased. It OCs very well and is incredibly strong;just about equals my dual 290 Sapphire Tri-Xs at stock. (980TI=1102 core stock;my 290s=1000 core stock)

That being said, the Fury appears to be the "go to" card for AMD in the high end especially for custom water coolers. No need to rip apart a Fury X and discard the AIO cooler and it's $100 less, nearly the cost of a custom water block.

Here are my concerns.

(a) Can it OC? Right now it appears very limited but I'll give it the benefit of not having a OCing tool. My concern is based upon the really limited OC ability of the Hawaii chip vs the Kepler/Maxwell chip. I know the Fiji chip is new and has HBM but so far OCing tests show little headroom. Perhaps custom cooling will help but the Fury X results sure do not give much hope.


(b) Does the limit of 4GHBM (AMD) vs 6G DDR5(Nvidia) hurt AMD on 4k gaming? It appears to not hurt it at all.

First results appear to show it really doesn't. Especially at 4k. That's good news for AMD

(c) Availability. Gosh where do I start. There appears to be demand for these cards but the supply appears non existent. 980s are plentiful (but overpriced) and 980TIs are in strong supply. The Fury and Fury X are listed but always appear to be out of stock.

JUST my thoughts. BTW I'm selling 1 of my 3 Sapphire Tri-X cards but the other two are happily "housed" in my 2nd rig, a 3770k @4.5Ghz running Win 10 Build 1024 (appears to be RTM build). They run great in CF.

 

[xthetenth]

Well it remains to be seen so when those tools do come, we'll see if it even makes much of a difference. Stock OC is trash so I would put money on having to overvolt it pretty high to get even a modest OC.

The voltage on the Fury is kept very tight to what the chip needs. Of course stock volt OC is going to be mediocre.

To me, it shows that the cards are much closer to being similar than the stock comparisons show. AMD pushed the stock clocks to the ragged edge to compete, when in reality, the 980ti was quite a bit faster, and the 980 isn't far behind it.

Perhaps future OC tools will change things, but as it stands now, that is what I gather.

Fury's getting pushed for every power saving AMD could scrape together. That's why the X's cooler runs it unnecessarily cool to save power and the voltage is tight enough to the card's needs that they're using that tech that lets them drop clock speeds for a millisecond when voltage dips.

On the other hand it's GCN and who knows where the ceiling actually is, but it's probably not going to pull off any maxwell OC.

 

[manimal]

Everyone.Even some cards boost at 1500mhz.

not exactly. Mine needed bios mods to run stock without throttling. Now it runs 1600 so essentially you right but it takes some doing that a BIG part of the market just doesnt have the skills to do.

 

[ocre]

It wins on "stock". It loses OC v OC.

What?

Everyone knows that. Everyone knows that a Fury beats a stock 980.

you were straight up posting bull. Fury wins at 1440p and even a bigger win at 4k? Talking all about how the reviewer "stacked it against AMD" by using a 980 overclocked but still "fails".
How is that acceptable? It's 100% not what the link showed. Did you expect no one to watch it?

I think anyone posting links and saying the exact opposite is trolling.
Not an attack on you personally, but that stuff shouldn't be allowed.

And your excuse for doing it, its totally unacceptable as well.

You either did not watch the video you posted or you purposefully intended to mislead everyone. Either way, it does not contributed towards great discussions. Not at all

 

[railven]

The voltage on the Fury is kept very tight to what the chip needs. Of course stock volt OC is going to be mediocre.



Fury's getting pushed for every power saving AMD could scrape together. That's why the X's cooler runs it unnecessarily cool to save power and the voltage is tight enough to the card's needs that they're using that tech that lets them drop clock speeds for a millisecond when voltage dips.

On the other hand it's GCN and who knows where the ceiling actually is, but it's probably not going to pull off any maxwell OC.

I'm still of opinion the moment they unlock volts (willingly or through 3rd party hacks) Fury/Fury X's will roast. They will guzzle down watts and cook themselves. No other reason why AMD would go so far as sticking a water cooler on their top card. They know it. They're prepared for it.

 

[MagickMan]

how many 980 can oc to 1500? and what are the numbers for the noise and temp? and wattage? :twisted::biggrin:

Most 980s with non-reference coolers can do it.

 

[MagickMan]

Because its a miracle 980 OC vs basically gimped OC Fury without vcore, from a bias reviewer, ofc its gonna win that contest, if it didnt, that would be the shocking thing.

Then why lie?

Basically tries to stack it against AMD and it still fails. Man, any fool can be a youtube reviewer these days.

It didn't fail, it came out on top almost every single time.

and if you think Jay is biased, then don't even bother looking at LTT, Hardwarecanucks, or any other major reviewer, because they're saying the same thing. An OCed 980 beats a Fury in most situations.

 

[Headfoot]

An OCed 980 beats a Fury in most situations.

Because you will never be able to BIOS mod a Fury

 

[bystander36]

Because you will never be able to BIOS mod a Fury

That is an estimated future. At this time, the statement is mostly true.

You can't review or benchmark a future that doesn't exist yet.