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affirmative action nay or ya with POLL

hinduluv

Senior member
okay, affirmative action.

is it good or bad, is it even necessary? This is strictly for education and not the work environment.

IF YOU POST, please make it short and to the point, no big a55 speeches.


my thoughts:

I believe that if there should be any type of grace issued to people it should strictly be based on income level and not on race. the fact that we have less minority doctors should not lower the standard of medical school admissions or any graduate or undergraduate institution.

remember keep it to the point and short!
 
no.. because I dont think that anyone is entitled to skate for anything...

hard work = rewards.. or at least it should.
 
Simple question: Why should income level lower the standard for entry more than race?

No special privledges for ANYBODY, rich or poor, black or white!
 
Originally posted by: So
Simple question: Why should income level lower the standard for entry more than race?

No special privledges for ANYBODY, rich or poor, black or white!

I justified it as simply because people with less income have less doors open to them initially. These people may be just as smart but just didnt have the resources to prepare like everyone else.
 
Originally posted by: So
Simple question: Why should income level lower the standard for entry more than race?

No special privledges for ANYBODY, rich or poor, black or white!

Those who live in poorer neighborhoods aren't given the same opportunities so its hard to measure them on the same level.
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: So
Simple question: Why should income level lower the standard for entry more than race?

No special privledges for ANYBODY, rich or poor, black or white!

Those who live in poorer neighborhoods aren't given the same opportunities so its hard to measure them on the same level.

But if they work hard, they should have the grades to get into a good school regardless of income
 
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: So
Simple question: Why should income level lower the standard for entry more than race?

No special privledges for ANYBODY, rich or poor, black or white!

Those who live in poorer neighborhoods aren't given the same opportunities so its hard to measure them on the same level.

But if they work hard, they should have the grades to get into a good school regardless of income

What if their school only offers say.. 3 AP classes and a richer school in a better neighborhood offers 10. Should the poor kid, who took all 3 APs and got As, be rejected since he didn't take enough? And how should he be compared to someone in the richer HS that only took 3 of 10 possible APs?
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: So
Simple question: Why should income level lower the standard for entry more than race?

No special privledges for ANYBODY, rich or poor, black or white!

Those who live in poorer neighborhoods aren't given the same opportunities so its hard to measure them on the same level.

But if they work hard, they should have the grades to get into a good school regardless of income

What if their school only offers say.. 3 AP classes and a richer school in a better neighborhood offers 10. Should the poor kid, who took all 3 APs and got As, be rejected since he didn't take enough? And how should he be compared to someone in the richer HS that only took 3 of 10 possible APs?

My litte eredneck school offered no such thing as 'AP classes' and yet I managed to put myself through college and get a well paying job that I abuse by neffing all day. It's the American Dream!
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: So
Simple question: Why should income level lower the standard for entry more than race?

No special privledges for ANYBODY, rich or poor, black or white!

Those who live in poorer neighborhoods aren't given the same opportunities so its hard to measure them on the same level.

But if they work hard, they should have the grades to get into a good school regardless of income

What if their school only offers say.. 3 AP classes and a richer school in a better neighborhood offers 10. Should the poor kid, who took all 3 APs and got As, be rejected since he didn't take enough? And how should he be compared to someone in the richer HS that only took 3 of 10 possible APs?

than maybe that kid shouldn't go to harvard/yale/princeton but I would be shocked if he could not get into a decent state school

 
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: So
Simple question: Why should income level lower the standard for entry more than race?

No special privledges for ANYBODY, rich or poor, black or white!

Those who live in poorer neighborhoods aren't given the same opportunities so its hard to measure them on the same level.

But if they work hard, they should have the grades to get into a good school regardless of income

What if their school only offers say.. 3 AP classes and a richer school in a better neighborhood offers 10. Should the poor kid, who took all 3 APs and got As, be rejected since he didn't take enough? And how should he be compared to someone in the richer HS that only took 3 of 10 possible APs?

than maybe that kid shouldn't go to harvard/yale/princeton but I would be shocked if he could not get into a decent state school

But why not, he made the most of the opportunities he had. He showed that he has drive and has potential. And I do believe harvard/yale factors in available classes to people's transcripts.
 
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: So
Simple question: Why should income level lower the standard for entry more than race?

No special privledges for ANYBODY, rich or poor, black or white!

Those who live in poorer neighborhoods aren't given the same opportunities so its hard to measure them on the same level.

But if they work hard, they should have the grades to get into a good school regardless of income

thats the whole point, if he had taken 10 could he have gotten into harvard, yale or princeton?
What if their school only offers say.. 3 AP classes and a richer school in a better neighborhood offers 10. Should the poor kid, who took all 3 APs and got As, be rejected since he didn't take enough? And how should he be compared to someone in the richer HS that only took 3 of 10 possible APs?

than maybe that kid shouldn't go to harvard/yale/princeton but I would be shocked if he could not get into a decent state school

thats the whole point, if he had taken 10 could he have gotten into harvard, yale or princeton?
 
Originally posted by: hinduluv
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: So
Simple question: Why should income level lower the standard for entry more than race?

No special privledges for ANYBODY, rich or poor, black or white!

Those who live in poorer neighborhoods aren't given the same opportunities so its hard to measure them on the same level.

But if they work hard, they should have the grades to get into a good school regardless of income

thats the whole point, if he had taken 10 could he have gotten into harvard, yale or princeton?
What if their school only offers say.. 3 AP classes and a richer school in a better neighborhood offers 10. Should the poor kid, who took all 3 APs and got As, be rejected since he didn't take enough? And how should he be compared to someone in the richer HS that only took 3 of 10 possible APs?

than maybe that kid shouldn't go to harvard/yale/princeton but I would be shocked if he could not get into a decent state school

edit: nm
 
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