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Adults being required to wear helmets on motorcycles?

If it saves additional time and money from lower rescue worker need, I'm all for it.

If not wearing a helmet only affected the lives of those too stupid to wear one, I'd let them thin out the herd.
 
I think it's fine; but then again I think seatbelt laws are fine, too.

When you don't wear a helmet (or a seatbelt) it's not just you who is affected: The emergency personnel who come to scrape you off the pavement have a much easier job to do if you were wearing a proper helmet to keep the pieces of your head all in one place 😉
 
Georgia requires helmets. Florida went back and forth recently and settled on a Policy that you can go Helmetless if you carry an extra $10,000 Insurance Premium.

Current Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco just put a Helmet Law into place by repealing the Law by the previous Governor that allowed riders to Helmetless.

EMS workers call the Helmets "Brain Catchers" because all it does is contain the Brain Matter from being splattered all over the place, the end result does not change of dead rider.

Just more of Government telling us what we can and more and more of what we cannot do.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Georgia requires helmets. Florida went back and forth recently and settled on a Policy that you can go Helmetless if you carry an extra $10,000 Insurance Premium.

Current Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco just put a Helmet Law into place by repealing the Law by the previous Governor that allowed riders to Helmetless.

EMS workers call the Helmets "Brain Catchers" because all it does is contain the Brain Matter from being splattered all over the place, the end result does not change of dead rider.

Just more of Government telling us what we can and more and more of what we cannot do.
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Are you against seatbelt laws as well?
 
Originally posted by: frankie38
government should not be legislating against stupidity..if so, they are going to be very busy.
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Not stupidity - conditions of using the roads to reduce the chance of having to spend money cleaning up your body parts.
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Not stupidity - conditions of using the roads to reduce the chance of having to spend money cleaning up your body parts.
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Whats the big deal?

Infact it should be easier clean up, just get somethign to hose off the road.
 
Are you against seatbelt laws as well?
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I am. And this is coming from a guy who was in an accident and almost died if it wasnt for the seatbelt and/or airbag. But I always wear my seatbelt (if in front) and my son ALWAYS rides in his car seat. Always have, and ALWAYS will. If I had a motorcycle (not a crotch rocket type) I wish I had the option of whether to ride with a helmet on the freeway, and then take it off when Im cruising around.
 
i always wear my seatbelt, always insist that my passengers do as well. if i rode a bike i would wear a helmet as well.

but laws saying that i HAVE to are retarded. let me make my own decisions, good or bad
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: frankie38
government should not be legislating against stupidity..if so, they are going to be very busy.
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Not stupidity - conditions of using the roads to reduce the chance of having to spend money cleaning up your body parts.
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emergency personnel still have to respond so the cost savings i would think is a moot point.

not to mention the people that are getting paid to scrape roadkill arent the same ones that are going to save your life
 
<-Former Advanced Motorcycle Safety Foundation Instructor

I've owned 11 motorcycles, and have ~100k miles under my belt.

Riding without a helmet is an irresponsible act. One of the reasons I quit teaching was because one of the criteria used to allow people to ride without helmets was successful completion of a MSF class.

I only taught one course under the new law &amp; quit, I was putting people with very little riding experience on the road with permission to ride without a helmet.

I've also come to the conclusion that riding motorcycles is an inherently unsafe act &amp; stopped riding.
 
I ride, but fully dressed including a helmet with face guard.
Its the law around here but even if it wasn't I would.
Driving is a PRIVELAGE ! NOT A RIGHT DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE?
Its why you can't drive drunk and have speed limits and all sorts of other things. . .
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
<-Former Advanced Motorcycle Safety Foundation Instructor

I've owned 11 motorcycles, and have ~100k miles under my belt.

Riding without a helmet is an irresponsible act. One of the reasons I quit teaching was because one of the criteria used to allow people to ride without helmets was successful completion of a MSF class.

I only taught one course under the new law &amp; quit, I was putting people with very little riding experience on the road with permission to ride without a helmet.

I've also come to the conclusion that riding motorcycles is an inherently unsafe act &amp; stopped riding.
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I agree with 'moose 1000%. I also owned a series of motorcycles back in the day (3 of them), and also stopped riding primarily because I came to the self same conclusion -- that it is an inherently unsafe act.

I also worked for awhile at a residential facility for the traumatically brain injured. God, I somehow forget the term, but it is for those who did not have their skulls cracked open, but the swelling and brain bieng rocked in the skull got to them. Such folks are treated to a life of enormous and fundamental deficits, followed by a long, slow, irreversible decline into worse.

It is NOT a pretty sight, and guess who pays, finally, for their hideously expensive long term care after the family funds and insurance runs out? That's right, you and I!

A $10,000 extra premium? Pfffffttt. That wouldn't cover one year of residential care, let alone the rest of these poor bastard's lives.

YOU not wearing your helmet is a cost I shouldn't be made to subsidize!!

 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
<-Former Advanced Motorcycle Safety Foundation Instructor

I've owned 11 motorcycles, and have ~100k miles under my belt.

Riding without a helmet is an irresponsible act. One of the reasons I quit teaching was because one of the criteria used to allow people to ride without helmets was successful completion of a MSF class.

I only taught one course under the new law &amp; quit, I was putting people with very little riding experience on the road with permission to ride without a helmet.

I've also come to the conclusion that riding motorcycles is an inherently unsafe act &amp; stopped riding.
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I agree with 'moose 1000%. I also owned a series of motorcycles back in the day (3 of them), and also stopped riding primarily because I came to the self same conclusion -- that it is an inherently unsafe act.

I also worked for awhile at a residential facility for the traumatically brain injured. God, I somehow forget the term, but it is for those who did not have their skulls cracked open, but the swelling and brain bieng rocked in the skull got to them. Such folks are treated to a life of enormous and fundamental deficits, followed by a long, slow, irreversible decline into worse.

It is NOT a pretty sight, and guess who pays, finally, for their hideously expensive long term care after the family funds and insurance runs out? That's right, you and I!

A $10,000 extra premium? Pfffffttt. That wouldn't cover one year of residential care, let alone the rest of these poor bastard's lives.

YOU not wearing your helmet is a cost I shouldn't be made to subsidize!!
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Thats BS nobody pays for their care. If you have insurance the hospital may keep you alive if the insurance covers it. If you don't you die from your injuries. That is the fact. You think you can get injured and the government will just cover all your medical expenses? LOL that is joke it does not happen. You will get treated in the emergency room only if you have no insurance. If you get into an accident on a motorcycle you are likely going to die with or without a helmet. You might survive to be cripple for life if you have the helmet. Yay. The point is people are not babies and don't need any laws to mandate that they be safe. Next thing you know runing around while holding scissors will be illegal.
As will swimming within 15 minutes of eating.
 
Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Not stupidity - conditions of using the roads to reduce the chance of having to spend money cleaning up your body parts.
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Whats the big deal?

Infact it should be easier clean up, just get somethign to hose off the road.
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That's exactly what I did for 8 years when I was a Fireman in New York.

Two worst ones was a Motorcycle wreck where the guy hit an 18 wheeler head on and a guy that jumped in front of the 6am express Train to New York City. Parts were splattered everywhere literally. It was a Train Platform so the parts were all over rooftops of nearby buildings too. I hosed off as much as I could.


 
I don't agree with requiring helmets.

I don't agree with forcing things on people for their own good anyway if it obstructs their feedom.

And its not the same as requiring seatbelts - seatbelts have a direct coorelation to keep the driver controlled in the event of an accident, allowing them to better avoid or cause a secondary accident. Not the same with helmets.

Is it stupid? heck yeah.

<---layed my bike down a few times and glad I had a helmet.
 
I only owned one motorcycle and quit after one year-because of the other nuts on the road. It gets quite old fast the second or third time some idiot turns left across your lane because they didn't see you (in broad daylight, headlight on). It must be worse these days with drivers using cellphones.

I support the helmet law because of the huge cost of these easily preventable major injuries. Even if the driver has insurance, the rest of us are still paying (indriectly) the cost of their irresponsibility.
 
Originally posted by: fluorescenthat
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
<-Former Advanced Motorcycle Safety Foundation Instructor

I've owned 11 motorcycles, and have ~100k miles under my belt.

Riding without a helmet is an irresponsible act. One of the reasons I quit teaching was because one of the criteria used to allow people to ride without helmets was successful completion of a MSF class.

I only taught one course under the new law &amp; quit, I was putting people with very little riding experience on the road with permission to ride without a helmet.

I've also come to the conclusion that riding motorcycles is an inherently unsafe act &amp; stopped riding.
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I agree with 'moose 1000%. I also owned a series of motorcycles back in the day (3 of them), and also stopped riding primarily because I came to the self same conclusion -- that it is an inherently unsafe act.

I also worked for awhile at a residential facility for the traumatically brain injured. God, I somehow forget the term, but it is for those who did not have their skulls cracked open, but the swelling and brain bieng rocked in the skull got to them. Such folks are treated to a life of enormous and fundamental deficits, followed by a long, slow, irreversible decline into worse.

It is NOT a pretty sight, and guess who pays, finally, for their hideously expensive long term care after the family funds and insurance runs out? That's right, you and I!

A $10,000 extra premium? Pfffffttt. That wouldn't cover one year of residential care, let alone the rest of these poor bastard's lives.

YOU not wearing your helmet is a cost I shouldn't be made to subsidize!!
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Thats BS nobody pays for their care. If you have insurance the hospital may keep you alive if the insurance covers it. If you don't you die from your injuries. That is the fact. You think you can get injured and the government will just cover all your medical expenses? LOL that is joke it does not happen. You will get treated in the emergency room only if you have no insurance. If you get into an accident on a motorcycle you are likely going to die with or without a helmet. You might survive to be cripple for life if you have the helmet. Yay. The point is people are not babies and don't need any laws to mandate that they be safe. Next thing you know runing around while holding scissors will be illegal.
As will swimming within 15 minutes of eating.
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Yours is quite possibly THE STUPIDEST POST I have ever encountered on this forum, and, man, that is saying a lot! :roll:
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
I don't agree with requiring helmets.

I don't agree with forcing things on people for their own good anyway if it obstructs their feedom.

And its not the same as requiring seatbelts - seatbelts have a direct coorelation to keep the driver controlled in the event of an accident, allowing them to better avoid or cause a secondary accident. Not the same with helmets.

Is it stupid? heck yeah.

<---layed my bike down a few times and glad I had a helmet.
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I sorta agree with that.

I don't think people should be forced to wear them, as i can forsee some occasions where it wouldn't be neccary and /or the risk is minimal (if you're working on it and need to test it, you ride around the sub at 15mph or if someone steals my helmet, i dont wanna push the bike home).

I have yet to ride faster than 15mph without a helmet though - i can't stand the feeling of insecurity (same w/o a jacket), watering eyes and the windnoise. I would hope that anyone who can do 0-60 in 3secs and top out at around 150 would think the same.


 
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