Adrienne Shelly found dead

13Gigatons

Diamond Member
Apr 19, 2005
7,461
500
126
I've seen a couple of her films on cable. She leaves behind a husband and three year old daughter.

Source
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
25,015
3
81
www.integratedssr.com
so... wait.... "she was found by her husband" could mean two things...

did her husband find her dead or was she found dead next to her husband's body?
 

KLin

Lifer
Feb 29, 2000
30,512
799
126
Originally posted by: eits
so... wait.... "she was found by her husband" could mean two things...

did her husband find her dead or was she found dead next to her husband's body?

If you think it means that then you need to take a few more English classes.
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
25,015
3
81
www.integratedssr.com
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: eits
so... wait.... "she was found by her husband" could mean two things...

did her husband find her dead or was she found dead next to her husband's body?

If you think it means that then you need to take a few more English classes.

actually, it's because of all the english classes that i can recognize the bolded statement above as being potentially confusing to people.
 

RbSX

Diamond Member
Jan 18, 2002
8,351
1
76
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: eits
so... wait.... "she was found by her husband" could mean two things...

did her husband find her dead or was she found dead next to her husband's body?

If you think it means that then you need to take a few more English classes.

actually, it's because of all the english classes that i can recognize the bolded statement above as being potentially confusing to people.

You would be correct if another party were mentioned, 'she was found dead by her husband' by the police.

In that case it would imply that she was next to her husband.

In this case though, you're wrong.
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
25,015
3
81
www.integratedssr.com
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: eits
so... wait.... "she was found by her husband" could mean two things...

did her husband find her dead or was she found dead next to her husband's body?

If you think it means that then you need to take a few more English classes.

actually, it's because of all the english classes that i can recognize the bolded statement above as being potentially confusing to people.

You would be correct if another party were mentioned, 'she was found dead by her husband' by the police.

In that case it would imply that she was next to her husband.

In this case though, you're wrong.

no, you're wrong. even if the police said it, that still doesn't solidify whether or not she was found dead next to her husband or if her husband found her dead and told the police.
 

eplebnista

Lifer
Dec 3, 2001
24,123
36
91
rose.gif
:(
rose.gif
 

bobdelt

Senior member
May 26, 2006
918
0
0
wrong....

she was found by her husband... its passive voice, so she is the subject, her husband is the one doing the finding.... otherwise we wouldnt know who was doing the finding and would have been written by a sixth grader.
 

LanceM

Senior member
Mar 13, 2004
999
0
0
eits is correct. We understand the intent, sure, but it is still improper.

Moving on, now.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,804
46
91
Originally posted by: eits
so... wait.... "she was found by her husband" could mean two things...

did her husband find her dead or was she found dead next to her husband's body?

read the OP, its says she left behind a husband and daughter, jesus christ you people are really stupid sometimes
 

13Gigatons

Diamond Member
Apr 19, 2005
7,461
500
126
Adrienne Shelly, a writer, director and actress who appeared recently in a movie with Matt Dillon, has been found dead in her office by her husband, her agent said Thursday
 

DrPizza

Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
Mar 5, 2001
49,601
167
111
www.slatebrookfarm.com
I lost my car keys this morning. My family searched all over for them. The car keys were found by the front door.

No, not the best way to phrase it, but hopefully it points to the ambiguity in the OP. Although, I also believe that despite there being two potential meanings, it'd be silly to think "by" meant "next to" in that context.


edit:
:(
rose.gif
 

altonb1

Diamond Member
Feb 5, 2002
6,432
0
71
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: eits
so... wait.... "she was found by her husband" could mean two things...

did her husband find her dead or was she found dead next to her husband's body?

read the OP, its says she left behind a husband and daughter, jesus christ you people are really stupid sometimes

QFT!

Now is there anything mainstream this lady has done that would make me go, "No way....HER???" As of right now, I have no clue who she is, even after I read both articles that were linked above.
 

blueshoe

Senior member
Mar 6, 2005
414
0
76
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: eits
so... wait.... "she was found by her husband" could mean two things...

did her husband find her dead or was she found dead next to her husband's body?

If you think it means that then you need to take a few more English classes.

actually, it's because of all the english classes that i can recognize the bolded statement above as being potentially confusing to people.

You would be correct if another party were mentioned, 'she was found dead by her husband' by the police.

In that case it would imply that she was next to her husband.

In this case though, you're wrong.

no, you're wrong. even if the police said it, that still doesn't solidify whether or not she was found dead next to her husband or if her husband found her dead and told the police.

Passive voice FTL
 

SonnyDaze

Diamond Member
Jul 31, 2004
6,867
3
76
Originally posted by: DrPizza
I lost my car keys this morning. My family searched all over for them. The car keys were found by the front door.

No, not the best way to phrase it, but hopefully it points to the ambiguity in the OP. Although, I also believe that despite there being two potential meanings, it'd be silly to think "by" meant "next to" in that context.


edit:
:(
rose.gif

That's one smart door if it can find lost keys. ;)
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
25,015
3
81
www.integratedssr.com
Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
Originally posted by: DrPizza
I lost my car keys this morning. My family searched all over for them. The car keys were found by the front door.

No, not the best way to phrase it, but hopefully it points to the ambiguity in the OP. Although, I also believe that despite there being two potential meanings, it'd be silly to think "by" meant "next to" in that context.


edit:
:(
rose.gif

That's one smart door if it can find lost keys. ;)

haha :)
 

BuckNaked

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
4,211
0
76
Text

Police: Suspect In Custody In Actress' Death

(CBS/AP) NEW YORK New York City police have a man in custody in the death of actress Adrienne Shelly, who was found hanging from a shower rod in her West Village office last Wednesday, CBS 2 News has learned.

Sources tell CBS 2?s Ti-Hua Chang a construction worker has allegedly confessed to the crime.

The worker allegedly punched the 5-foot-2 actress after she complained about the noise he was making in the West Village building where her office is located, killing her.

He then allegedly admitted to dragging the body up to her office, and positioning her in the shower to make her death look like a suicide.

The medical examiner's office had not yet ruled whether the death of the petite actress best known for her roles in the Hal Hartley films "Trust" and "The Unbelievable Truth" was a homicide or a suicide.

Police had been hesitant to label the case a suicide after no suicide note was found and sneaker prints that didn't match Shelly's shoes were found in the bathtub.

Shelly, whose birth name was Adrienne Levine, was found Wednesday evening hanging from a shower rod in the bathtub of a Greenwich Village apartment, by her husband Andy Ostoy.

Shelly, who was born in Queens and grew up on Long Island, also had a 3-year-old daughter Sophie.
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
25,015
3
81
www.integratedssr.com
Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
Text

Police: Suspect In Custody In Actress' Death

(CBS/AP) NEW YORK New York City police have a man in custody in the death of actress Adrienne Shelly, who was found hanging from a shower rod in her West Village office last Wednesday, CBS 2 News has learned.

Sources tell CBS 2?s Ti-Hua Chang a construction worker has allegedly confessed to the crime.

The worker allegedly punched the 5-foot-2 actress after she complained about the noise he was making in the West Village building where her office is located, killing her.

He then allegedly admitted to dragging the body up to her office, and positioning her in the shower to make her death look like a suicide.

The medical examiner's office had not yet ruled whether the death of the petite actress best known for her roles in the Hal Hartley films "Trust" and "The Unbelievable Truth" was a homicide or a suicide.

Police had been hesitant to label the case a suicide after no suicide note was found and sneaker prints that didn't match Shelly's shoes were found in the bathtub.

Shelly, whose birth name was Adrienne Levine, was found Wednesday evening hanging from a shower rod in the bathtub of a Greenwich Village apartment, by her husband Andy Ostoy.

Shelly, who was born in Queens and grew up on Long Island, also had a 3-year-old daughter Sophie.

what a dumb bastard... wtf... honestly. it's called being an adult. you don't punch someone when they complain about the noise you're making....

what a dumb motherfvcker... really.
 

BooGiMaN

Diamond Member
Jul 5, 2001
7,955
0
0
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
Text

Police: Suspect In Custody In Actress' Death

(CBS/AP) NEW YORK New York City police have a man in custody in the death of actress Adrienne Shelly, who was found hanging from a shower rod in her West Village office last Wednesday, CBS 2 News has learned.

Sources tell CBS 2?s Ti-Hua Chang a construction worker has allegedly confessed to the crime.

The worker allegedly punched the 5-foot-2 actress after she complained about the noise he was making in the West Village building where her office is located, killing her.

He then allegedly admitted to dragging the body up to her office, and positioning her in the shower to make her death look like a suicide.

The medical examiner's office had not yet ruled whether the death of the petite actress best known for her roles in the Hal Hartley films "Trust" and "The Unbelievable Truth" was a homicide or a suicide.

Police had been hesitant to label the case a suicide after no suicide note was found and sneaker prints that didn't match Shelly's shoes were found in the bathtub.

Shelly, whose birth name was Adrienne Levine, was found Wednesday evening hanging from a shower rod in the bathtub of a Greenwich Village apartment, by her husband Andy Ostoy.

Shelly, who was born in Queens and grew up on Long Island, also had a 3-year-old daughter Sophie.

what a dumb bastard... wtf... honestly. it's called being an adult. you don't punch someone when they complain about the noise you're making....

what a dumb motherfvcker... really.

wow thats absolutely horrible....wtf is wrong with people....seriously wow then he tried to make it look like a suicide...

think of the pain the husband is going through from having to come home and find her hanging there dead thinking she killed herself..and wondering why she did or how you could have stopped her racking his brain tryign to figure out what the hell is goign on...

this guy needs to fry for the pain he brought this family...