Adreno 320 vs SGX543MP3

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ender321

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^ i agree, it probably doesn't matter at all for current/near future apps or games.
 
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Kenmitch

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Welcome to the forum :)

Seems like it's more of a if you want an iPhone or not type of a question....Or did I miss something?

For me it's all about the size and quality of the screen from here on out. I don't game on a phone anyways so it's about the web experience 99% of the time.
 
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jacktesterson

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They both have advantages. Honestly it won't matter

My galaxy nexus is still more than powerful enough I find
 
TuxDave

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Man, if I asked if an Ivybridge was faster than a Bulldozer, I better not get a bunch of responses to "it doesn't matter". Anyways, vshah nailed it with his post. The simple answer to the OP is that SGX543MP3 is generally faster.
 
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TuxDave said:
Man, if I asked if an Ivybridge was faster than a Bulldozer, I better not get a bunch of responses to "it doesn't matter". Anyways, vshah nailed it with his post. The simple answer to the OP is that SGX543MP3 is generally faster.
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I think you're seeing responses like that because how you don't just go out and buy a PowerVR or Adreno chip... they come built into your device. You're buying an entire package that's typically designed around a performance level, and both are pretty similar. Although, even with that, you'll still find various instances of software using this hardware that look vastly different.

I was playing the iOS game Lili on my iPad 2, and while the game is fairly simplistic in nature, it's a really nice looking game. If you saw it, you might suspect that it was an early or mid era XBOX 360 game. It's an Unreal Engine 3 based game, so it could certain head to Android OS as well.
 
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Aikouka said:
I think you're seeing responses like that because how you don't just go out and buy a PowerVR or Adreno chip... they come built into your device. You're buying an entire package that's typically designed around a performance level, and both are pretty similar. Although, even with that, you'll still find various instances of software using this hardware that look vastly different.

I was playing the iOS game Lili on my iPad 2, and while the game is fairly simplistic in nature, it's a really nice looking game. If you saw it, you might suspect that it was an early or mid era XBOX 360 game. It's an Unreal Engine 3 based game, so it could certain head to Android OS as well.
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What if the OP is just having a nerd fight with a coworker on which phone has the fastest GPU? What if he's an EE and wants to study the fastest GPU architecture? Why assume that the OP is using GPU power as the sole metric for his phone buying habits.

Anyways, I said all that I wanted to say.
 
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runawayprisoner said:
It actually does matter on iOS... but it doesn't matter at all on Android.
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I was actually thinking about how I wish my iPhone 4S had a little more GPU oomph. I was looking at the turn-by-turn navigation and was thinking that I wish the 3D maps (without textures, just 3D objects) would move around more smoothly.
 
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TuxDave said:
Man, if I asked if an Ivybridge was faster than a Bulldozer, I better not get a bunch of responses to "it doesn't matter". Anyways, vshah nailed it with his post. The simple answer to the OP is that SGX543MP3 is generally faster.
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IvyBridge is much faster than Bulldozer. And it's not just a 1-2fps difference like in the benchmarks linked in the OP. :p

Anandtech shows SGX543MP3 winning.
The GLBenchmark linked in the OP shows SGX543MP3 winning some, Adreno 320 winning only 1.
It's basically a wash on all the remaining benchmarks except the 2 listed on that site in which Adreno 320 lost(badly at that).
 
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lothar said:
IvyBridge is much faster than Bulldozer. And it's not just a 1-2fps difference like in the benchmarks linked in the OP. :p

Anandtech shows SGX543MP3 winning.
The GLBenchmark linked in the OP shows SGX543MP3 winning some, Adreno 320 winning only 1.
It's basically a wash on all the remaining benchmarks except the 2 listed on that site in which Adreno 320 lost(badly at that).
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You are saying it doesn't matter because you believe they perform similarly. I was poking at the ones who quote day to day activities where the gpu isn't the sole determining factor in choosing a smartphone. The two CPUs would also probably be the essentially a wash for schoolwork, email and Facebook. That's the angle I was going at.
 
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I think they are roughly equal. You have to take into account that Adreno 320 is most likely running on old drivers. I expect it to do better once a finished product reaches retail
 
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ender321

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thanks for all the responses guys! the Xiaomi MI 2 benchmarks just started showing late this month and is going to be coming out early next month so one would assume the video drivers have been optimised due to the fact that they have a month to improve it. but down the road who knows
 
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ender321 said:
thanks for all the responses guys! the Xiaomi MI 2 benchmarks just started showing late this month and is going to be coming out early next month so one would assume the video drivers have been optimised due to the fact that they have a month to improve it. but down the road who knows
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Xiamo was announced with JellyBean so it has newer drivers than the LG wich is still running ICS. I would expect the LG version to get a boost once/if it gets JB
 
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lothar

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LG is crappy at optimizing Android software.
Xiaomi? I have no idea who they are.
I'll wait for someone more reputable to release Adreno 320.
 
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One thing we have to forget is that unlike consoles, there is a negative effect for trying to squeeze the most performance possible out of these chips, because your games basically will only play on the newest devices, limiting your market (I assume that if you are spending a ton of time optimizing for the iPhone 5, you really don't want to deal with the iPhone 4, according to Apple's numbers, there's a 14x performance gap - 7x from A4 to A5, 2x from A5 to A6).

As such, it is no coincidence that the most popular games on the store are 2D games anyway, because 3D controls with a touchscreen are lackluster and chew up battery life.

It does matter, but then, it doesn't matter when people play these games 5 minutes at a time.
 
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ender321

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true but im one of those guys that are always playing galaxy on fire 2 hd & Nova 1,2 and 3 lol so i would prefer more gpu hoursepower than cpu
 
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GPU's sole function is not just in terms of gaming the OS is also rendered by the GPU which is why Apple devices feel so fluid because the PowerVR series packs some punch.
 
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marko7533333 said:
GPU's sole function is not just in terms of gaming the OS is also rendered by the GPU which is why Apple devices feel so fluid because the PowerVR series packs some punch.
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Indeed. Let's not forget the web browser too. This is a big factor pushing these GPU's. People want desktop browsing experience on a mobile device with 3x the pixels.
 
jacktesterson

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djgandy said:
Indeed. Let's not forget the web browser too. This is a big factor pushing these GPU's. People want desktop browsing experience on a mobile device with 3x the pixels.
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Browsing on the 320 is super fluid.

I've used both the Nexus 4 (JB 4.2) and Optimus G (ICS) and both were very fluid and smooth. The optimus G, even while still using ICS at time I used one, was super fast. LG did a great job with that ICS Rom.

I still think its a wash between the two for the majority of people. (320 vs 543MPX)

Remember, the Adreno 320 is also rendering more pixels (most phones that use it are 720p, the new HTC is 1080p)
 
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