Discussion Ada/'Lovelace'? Next gen Nvidia gaming architecture speculation

[blckgrffn]

$400? Why so cheap?

Isn't the 4070 going to be at least $699? I can't believe they will leave a $300 gap. Expecting $450 or $500 at least. I would expect the 3060 too stick around $350-$400 until they feel otherwise. Someday.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

$400? Why so cheap?

Isn't the 4070 going to be at least $699? I can't believe they will leave a $300 gap. Expecting $450 or $500 at least. I would expect the 3060 too stick around $350-$400 until they feel otherwise. Someday.

IDK $400 for the 4060, $550 for the 4060 Ti sounds pretty trash

 

[VirtualLarry]

Does the "RTX 4060 ti" bring up any nostalgic vibes for anyone else? Like, memories of the Ti 4600?

And if NVidia doesn't immediately have a 4060 ti planned, then why not? Too many cards made from same mid-range GPU die, between 4060, 4070, and 4070 ti?

 

[blckgrffn]

IDK $400 for the 4060, $550 for the 4060 Ti sounds pretty trash

And?

lmao

 

[GodisanAtheist]

And?

lmao

-Welcome to the current gen...

 

[PJVol]

-Welcome to the current gen...

Stop whining and away with doubt! Haven't you been told what and where to buy?

 

[jpiniero]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti to offer 22 TFLOPs of compute performance - VideoCardz.com

Custom GeForce RTX 4060 Ti GPUs could boost up to 2.7 GHz The RTX 4060 Ti with the first rumored frequency specs. NVIDIA and board partners may now be occupied with the upcoming RTX 4070 non-Ti launch, but the RTX 4060 Ti and RTX 4060 series are just around the corner as well. The truth […]

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Claim about the 4060 Ti's clock speeds, which at 4352 cores would give it roughly 22 TF FP32. Or comparable to the 3070 Ti.

 

[blckgrffn]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti to offer 22 TFLOPs of compute performance - VideoCardz.com

Custom GeForce RTX 4060 Ti GPUs could boost up to 2.7 GHz The RTX 4060 Ti with the first rumored frequency specs. NVIDIA and board partners may now be occupied with the upcoming RTX 4070 non-Ti launch, but the RTX 4060 Ti and RTX 4060 series are just around the corner as well. The truth […]

videocardz.com

Claim about the 4060 Ti's clock speeds, which at 4352 cores would give it roughly 22 TF FP32. Or comparable to the 3070 Ti.

So primed to take the 3070ti MSRP then. Nice.

 

[Ranulf]

So primed to take the 3070ti MSRP then. Nice.

We laugh but the MSRP of the 3070 was $499. The 3070ti was $599. If the rumors from the other week are true, the 4060ti is supposed to be under $500. So figure $499, a whopping $100 savings two years later in a bad economy and no crypto driving prices up.

I'm just like so excited and I just can't hide it.

 

[Saylick]

We laugh but the MSRP of the 3070 was $499. The 3070ti was $599. If the rumors from the other week are true, the 4060ti is supposed to be under $500. So figure $499, a whopping $100 savings two years later in a bad economy and no crypto driving prices up.

I'm just like so excited and I just can't hide it.

Hm... I'm not going to be too optimistic about a 4060 Ti coming under $500.

To me, it looks like we're going to get:
4070 Ti = $799
4070 = $699?
4060 Ti = $599?
4060 = $499?

 

[Ranulf]

Quite possible. Going by cuda cores, the 4060 should be the same msrp or less than the $329 of a 3060.

 

[Aapje]

I'm just like so excited and I just can't hide it.

Are you snoring?

 

[jpiniero]

Quite possible. Going by cuda cores, the 4060 should be the same msrp or less than the $329 of a 3060.

Both the 4060 Ti and the 4060 (if they stay the same as the rumors) have fewer cores than the previous generation.

 

[SmokSmog]

Both the 4060 Ti and the 4060 (if they stay the same as the rumors) have fewer cores than the previous generation.

 

[TESKATLIPOKA]

4060Ti having 34SM or 4352cuda was rumoured, but why does 4050 have only 18SM instead of 20 like the laptop version?

 

[Heartbreaker]

I've observed for quite a while that the further down the stack you go, the less gains (often none) that happen generation to generation.

 

[jpiniero]

4060Ti having 34SM or 4352cuda was rumoured, but why does 4050 have only 18SM instead of 20 like the laptop version?

The extremely tiny chance there's chips that are usable at 2304 but not 2568? Esp since they probally aren't going to do an mx product with Ada.

The mx of this generation is really the 64-bit version of the 3050 4 GB.

 

[SmokSmog]

4060Ti having 34SM or 4352cuda was rumoured, but why does 4050 have only 18SM instead of 20 like the laptop version?

I made this table and I'm not sure about the 4050 specs, maybe it's 20SM or it's cut down AD107 with 96bit and 18SM.

 

[jpiniero]

Maybe nVidia should just not bother with the 4050 or make it OEM only.

 

[Mopetar]

I've observed for quite a while that the further down the stack you go, the less gains (often none) that happen generation to generation.

At least we're getting new generation architectures. The low end used to be rebadged pets from the previous generation. NVidia quit doing this sometime around Maxwell or Pascal, but prior to that you just got the same old stuff with a different number on it.

 

[Heartbreaker]

At least we're getting new generation architectures. The low end used to be rebadged pets from the previous generation. NVidia quit doing this sometime around Maxwell or Pascal, but prior to that you just got the same old stuff with a different number on it.

The "low end" also didn't cost $400+ though.

 

[Aapje]

Maybe nVidia should just not bother with the 4050 or make it OEM only.

But then they won't have anything in the $400 tier.

Not sure if that is a joke or serious at this point.

 

[TESKATLIPOKA]

I made this table and I'm not sure about the 4050 specs, maybe it's 20SM or it's cut down AD107 with 96bit and 18SM.

RTX 4050 Laptop is 20SM and 96bit 6GB Vram, I am pretty sceptical they will cut It even more for a desktop variant, that's why I asked about 18SM.

 

[SmokSmog]

RTX 4050 Laptop is 20SM and 96bit 6GB Vram, I am pretty sceptical they will cut It even more for a desktop variant, that's why I asked about 18SM.

Either way, it's a turd

 

[TESKATLIPOKA]

Either way, it's a turd

Actually, It has a very good performance, considering It's only a cut-down of the weakest ADA107 GPU. It's good enough even for QHD resolution.

This laptop GPU is limited to 2370 MHz, but the desktop version could be easily clocked 20% higher (2844 MHz) depending on what Nvidia set as TBP limit.
The only disadvantage of this cutdown chip would be 96-bit bus + 6GB Vram.
I don't think pricing will be that good, but that's not this GPUs fault.