Hmm, not sure why people would want that if it uses more power and is physically larger. I doubt there is much of a performance difference but it will be interesting to see if it behaves differently WRT frequencies.
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Getting rid of the most crappy dies to empty out the warehouse, to be ready for next gen.
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I wonder if this particular variant, assuming it costs the same as other 4070 Ti Supers, will OC better since it has more silicon area to dissipate heat.
MSI unveils GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER with AD102 GPU - VideoCardz.com
MSI spec sheet shows RTX 4070 Ti SUPER Ventus 3X Black OC with AD102 GPU NVIDIA might be adding a new variant of its RTX 4070 Ti SUPER. Reportedly, MSI has posted a datasheet that lists MSI RTX 4070 Ti SUPER Ventus 3X Black OC graphics cards with specs nearly identical to the existing Ventus […]videocardz.com
4070 Ti Super with AD102 dies? That's very cut down.
Does anyone else have issues with Ada series GPUs using DSC at 4K240Hz?
I have a few problems that I attributed to the cable but persist even with a few others that didn't have problems without DSC at 160Hz.
Namely a bit of flicker when the GPU is at a low power and e.g. the wallpaper changes.
Edit: I realize this may not be the right thread... my bad. I created a thread here https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/rtx-4090-dsc-issues.2620304/
I have a few problems that I attributed to the cable but persist even with a few others that didn't have problems without DSC at 160Hz.
Namely a bit of flicker when the GPU is at a low power and e.g. the wallpaper changes.
Edit: I realize this may not be the right thread... my bad. I created a thread here https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/rtx-4090-dsc-issues.2620304/
GB202 12*8 512-bit GDDR7 = 192 SMs
GB203 7*6 256-bit GDDR7 = 84 SMs
GB205 5*5 192-bit GDDR7 = 50 SMs
GB206 3*6 128-bit GDDR7 = 36 SMs
GB207 2*5 128-bit GDDR6 = 20 SMs
GB207 is smaller than AD107. Coupled with N4P, we'll see a 100mm² GPU die? Return of xx50 class (<=$199) GPUs to Desktop?
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Hahaha, no way. Whatever you think the xx50 class card will be, that’s the new xx60 card. Adjust expectations accordingly 😂
Late edit: They've had options in that price range pretty much all along. 1650 flavors, 1660, and right now the 3050 6 GB & 8 GB variants. I just don't expect anything that starts with a series number of "5" to be under $200 any time soon, if there is a xx50 in the next, what, year(?) I'd be really surprised.
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I'm assuming it would mainly be for notebooks and probably low-end Quadro cards since anyone using the Turing-based ones is probably looking for an upgrade soon. That's going to give them a much better ASP than the consumer desktop GPU market, even if they charge $300.
Perhaps it'll eventually be used for a xx50 refresh like GA107 was, as the initial 3050 was a cut down GA106 die. Then again AD107 was used for the 4060, so we may not even see a 5050 outside of mobile.
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NVIDIA preparing GeForce RTX 3050 A Laptop GPU with Ada AD106 GPU - VideoCardz.com
There is RTX 30 card with ADA GPU NVIDIA drivers hide a secret plan for a new mobile SKU. NVIDIA is said to be working on a new mobile graphics card called the GeForce RTX 3050 A Laptop GPU. This new SKU is part of the existing GeForce mobile series; however, according to a PCI-ID […]
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nVidia is at it again with the de-branded SKUs, this time the "3050 A Laptop" which is an Ada model.
Presumably it has less than the 20 SMs that the 4050 laptop does and perhaps some other cuts.
What a weird thing.NVIDIA preparing GeForce RTX 3050 A Laptop GPU with Ada AD106 GPU - VideoCardz.com
There is RTX 30 card with ADA GPU NVIDIA drivers hide a secret plan for a new mobile SKU. NVIDIA is said to be working on a new mobile graphics card called the GeForce RTX 3050 A Laptop GPU. This new SKU is part of the existing GeForce mobile series; however, according to a PCI-ID […]
nVidia is at it again with the de-branded SKUs, this time the "3050 A Laptop" which is an Ada model.
Presumably it has less than the 20 SMs that the 4050 laptop does and perhaps some other cuts.
And I doubt this will be cheap at all.
Similar story to the RTX 2050 Mobile/MaxQ (which were actually GA107 despite having a Turing name)
One thing I don't understand is why its based on AD106?
RTX 4060 and 4050 are based on AD107. 3050 A will be AD106? Broken dies that Nvidia will later switch to AD 107?
RTX 4060 and 4050 are based on AD107. 3050 A will be AD106? Broken dies that Nvidia will later switch to AD 107?
Got a link for that? That's cheesy that it has less cores than the 3050 4 GB.
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3050 with Ada Lovelace GPU reportedly in the works
Nvidia has a new GeForce RTX 3050 GPU lined up. Instead of an Ampere GPU, it will use an Ada Lovelace-based AD106 found on the RTX 4070 mobile. Updated: Nvidia has confirmed some key specifications of said GeForce RTX 3050 variant.
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It has less CUDA cores than the 2050 itself (2048).
New GeForce RTX 4070 rumored to feature 20 Gbps GDDR6 memory - VideoCardz.com
NVIDIA RTX 4070 with GDDR6 non-X memory gets first specs leak Another leaker confirms speculation by Asian media. A new graphics card is reportedly in development, confirming earlier rumors. MEGAsizeGPU, a reliable source for NVIDIA leaks, has provided an update on the RTX 4070 GDDR6. According...
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The 4070 with GDDR6's speed is 20 gbps. Specs otherwise are the same. That's 5% less bandwidth so it should be slower but only so much.
Are they just going to manufacture this variant going forward? It seems unusual to build something like this at all while keeping the older models in production.
I would assume so. Lines up with the idea that Blackwell does not support GDDR6X at all.
NVIDIA introduces GeForce RTX 4070 with GDDR6 memory, offering 'similar' performance to GDDR6X version - VideoCardz.com
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 GDDR6 edition to launch in September The leaks were true, there’s a new GDDR6 version of RTX 4070 which is said to have similar performance to existing SKU with GDDR6X memory. NVIDIA has confirmed the release of the new RTX 4070 GDDR6, a variant of the existing model...
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4070 GDDR6 now official. Says release is in September.
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I'm sure that GDDR6X makes no financial sense anymore when GDDR7 is available, since 6X uses the expensive PAM4 signalling, while GDDR7 uses the more economical PAM3.
Furthermore, Nvidia surely pays a premium for GDDR6X since they are wedded to a single supplier for it, while they can play suppliers against each other for GDDR7.
Looks like initial results are in for the 4070 GDDR6.Theoretical bandwidth difference is 5%, highest performance difference in this test is metro exodus.
wccftech.com
GALAX GeForce RTX 4070 OC 2X Graphics Card Review: Out Goes GDDR6X, In Goes GDDR6
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4070 GDDR6 graphics card offers the same performance as the GDDR6X variant at the same price point.
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