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Corbett

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Jun 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Corbett maginalized again.

I'll take that as a complement, coming from a lefty loon who wants more of the same here in Michigan.

This coming from a right wing zealot who blames the dems in Michigan for the problems we have had for years. You have ZERO credibility loser.

Michigan has been run by Dems for decades, overall. I don't place the blame on them 100%, but their policies over the last 5 years have only worsened the situation.

As far as credibility goes, well, coming from a guy who blindly supports the policies of those who have worsened the situation here in Michigan, well, frankly, it doesn't surprise me one bit.

Get your head out of your ass before typing. Your posts reek of shit.

You're on a roll! Keep up the insightful posts! Only 40,000 more to catch up with Red Dawn!
 

Specop 007

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Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: Thump553
Excellent reaction. It is really hearting to see that the Dems (and Obama's campaign in particular) have learned a lot from the swiftboating episode and react quickly, forcefully and effectively to the bogus attacks. It bodes well for how Obama will perform as President.

And Scotty, there are more than a few of us Americans who do not think the government should be encouraging the concept of concentration of wealth in a small elite, which is all that has been accomplished in this trickle down fiasco. Responsible citizens should be willing to pay their fair share of the government's expenses-at least if they claim to be patriotic. I never understood the GOP antipathy to paying for government in anything but the blood of others.

And again dumbass, there is no "concentration of wealth".

PLEASE take a fucking economics class. Please. Wealth is not a fixed asset. One man is NOT getting rich at anothers expense.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Corbett maginalized again.

I'll take that as a complement, coming from a lefty loon who wants more of the same here in Michigan.

This coming from a right wing zealot who blames the dems in Michigan for the problems we have had for years. You have ZERO credibility loser.

Michigan has been run by Dems for decades, overall. I don't place the blame on them 100%, but their policies over the last 5 years have only worsened the situation.

As far as credibility goes, well, coming from a guy who blindly supports the policies of those who have worsened the situation here in Michigan, well, frankly, it doesn't surprise me one bit.

Get your head out of your ass before typing. Your posts reek of shit.

You're on a roll! Keep up the insightful posts! Only 40,000 more to catch up with Red Dawn!

Face it Corbett, you are a laughing stock here.
 

Red Dawn

Elite Member
Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Corbett maginalized again.

I'll take that as a complement, coming from a lefty loon who wants more of the same here in Michigan.

This coming from a right wing zealot who blames the dems in Michigan for the problems we have had for years. You have ZERO credibility loser.

Michigan has been run by Dems for decades, overall. I don't place the blame on them 100%, but their policies over the last 5 years have only worsened the situation.

As far as credibility goes, well, coming from a guy who blindly supports the policies of those who have worsened the situation here in Michigan, well, frankly, it doesn't surprise me one bit.

Get your head out of your ass before typing. Your posts reek of shit.

You're on a roll! Keep up the insightful posts! Only 40,000 more to catch up with Red Dawn!
20,000 of them proving you wrong.
 

seemingly random

Diamond Member
Oct 10, 2007
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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Skitzer
Originally posted by: seemingly random
^ We'll see. I wonder how many repugs are leaving the country if obama wins.

Just as many as Dems that will leave if McCain wins?
If he wins lets just hope he doesn't die because that twit he has for a running mate is no way even close to being qualified intellectually to be President.

You are turning into Harvey with these macros for answers.

You're saying that's not a valid point? Do YOU think Palin would make a good President?

Compared to Obama? Absolutely! Shes more qualified and is 10x the reformer Obama claims to be.
Look at yourself in a mirror and say this with exuberance.

Feels pretty stupid, eh?
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Skitzer
Originally posted by: seemingly random
^ We'll see. I wonder how many repugs are leaving the country if obama wins.

Just as many as Dems that will leave if McCain wins?
If he wins lets just hope he doesn't die because that twit he has for a running mate is no way even close to being qualified intellectually to be President.

You are turning into Harvey with these macros for answers.

You're saying that's not a valid point? Do YOU think Palin would make a good President?

Compared to Obama? Absolutely! Shes more qualified and is 10x the reformer Obama claims to be.
Look at yourself in a mirror and say this with exuberance.

Feels pretty stupid, eh?
Probably no more than usual

 

seemingly random

Diamond Member
Oct 10, 2007
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Skitzer
Originally posted by: seemingly random
^ We'll see. I wonder how many repugs are leaving the country if obama wins.

Just as many as Dems that will leave if McCain wins?
If he wins lets just hope he doesn't die because that twit he has for a running mate is no way even close to being qualified intellectually to be President.

You are turning into Harvey with these macros for answers.

You're saying that's not a valid point? Do YOU think Palin would make a good President?

Compared to Obama? Absolutely! Shes more qualified and is 10x the reformer Obama claims to be.
Look at yourself in a mirror and say this with exuberance.

Feels pretty stupid, eh?
Probably no more than usual
I should have said dishonest instead of stupid.

On the other hand, maybe people should give mr. corbett a break since it appears that he's coming unhinged. I imagine he feels pretty let down by his master about now. He's praying for answers and keeps hearing obama, obama.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Skitzer
Originally posted by: seemingly random
^ We'll see. I wonder how many repugs are leaving the country if obama wins.
Just as many as Dems that will leave if McCain wins?
If he wins lets just hope he doesn't die because that twit he has for a running mate is no way even close to being qualified intellectually to be President.
You are turning into Harvey with these macros for answers.
You're saying that's not a valid point? Do YOU think Palin would make a good President?
Compared to Obama? Absolutely! Shes more qualified and is 10x the reformer Obama claims to be.
I'm sorry, that is so utterly ridiculous I had to quote it.
If she some how makes it to the oval office I will be pissed, but when she runs the country straight into ground I will at least gain some joy by rubbing your face in it.

Then I will stock up on emergency supplies.

 

Wheezer

Diamond Member
Nov 2, 1999
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I find in confusing that libs will fight to the death for a woman to have the independent control over another life she carries in her gut, but they are all for maintaining control over another mans wallet.
 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
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Everyone's just all defensive because Obama sprung a leak when a guy knocked him off balance.
 

Stuxnet

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Jun 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Shame Joe isn't licensed to fix any such leak. Real or imagined.

Of all the things to hang your hat on in this election, I can't believe how many people can't get beyond his lack of a license, even when confronted with the fact that he DOESN'T NEED ONE.
 

Corbett

Diamond Member
Jun 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Corbett maginalized again.

I'll take that as a complement, coming from a lefty loon who wants more of the same here in Michigan.

This coming from a right wing zealot who blames the dems in Michigan for the problems we have had for years. You have ZERO credibility loser.

Michigan has been run by Dems for decades, overall. I don't place the blame on them 100%, but their policies over the last 5 years have only worsened the situation.

As far as credibility goes, well, coming from a guy who blindly supports the policies of those who have worsened the situation here in Michigan, well, frankly, it doesn't surprise me one bit.

Get your head out of your ass before typing. Your posts reek of shit.

You're on a roll! Keep up the insightful posts! Only 40,000 more to catch up with Red Dawn!
20,000 of them proving you wrong.

Now you're just delusional. But we already knew that, didnt we?
 

Corbett

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Jun 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Shame Joe isn't licensed to fix any such leak. Real or imagined.

Of all the things to hang your hat on in this election, I can't believe how many people can't get beyond his lack of a license, even when confronted with the fact that he DOESN'T NEED ONE.

They are doing whatever they can to distract from the fact that Joe the Plumber has a very good point. Obama wants to raise his taxes and tries to justify it by saying he is only trying to "spread the wealth around"
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Guess what, service plumbing companies make a large portion of their money on "sells," the extra services they provide when they go to a service call. In poorer neighborhoods and tougher economic times, it's these extra services are the first to be lost, as people will only pay the bare minimum and will avoid having to spend any extra money they don't have. The faucet leaks, repair the valve seat, or buy a new faucet? Maybe upgrade to a nice Moen? Not if you are strapped.

Customers spend less, the company and the individual plumber makes less on the service call.

You can set the company's tax rate to zero, but they are not going to make any money if their customers don't have it to spend to begin with.


Ol Joe actually demonstrates why McCain's plans are so bassackwards.
 

seemingly random

Diamond Member
Oct 10, 2007
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I hope obama tries to shake up how the wealth is distributed. I don't see why alaska gets such a disproportionately large chunk.
 

Rainsford

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Billions have been spent programming the brains of morons to fire their synapses in alarm whenever the words 'redistribute the wealth' is heard. The heart begins to pound, knees began to jerk, and mouths open wide to scream Commie Commie Commie.

Ziek heil ziek heil ziek heil!

So fucking sad.

And well they should!.
Generally it means hard working people like me end up giving money to deadbeats who want to sit on their fat asses and watch tv.

If you look at the facts, you'd see that there is a LARGE gap between "deadbeats who want to sit on their fat asses and watch TV" and people who benefit more from McCain's tax plan than Obama's. You've bought into the lie because it lines up so well with your Republican ideology, but the fact is that "hard working people" like (probably) you and me and pretty much everyone I know are better off tax-wise with Obama as President rather than McCain. And that's not even taking into account that Obama's plan is revenue neutral, while McCain's would increase the deficit all the more.

I really wish people would look at the facts instead of making their decisions based on the same old stereotypes that weren't all that true to begin with.
 

seemingly random

Diamond Member
Oct 10, 2007
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Originally posted by: Rainsford
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I really wish people would look at the facts instead of making their decisions based on the same old stereotypes that weren't all that true to begin with.
:laugh:

p&n would become a ghost town.
 

Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Everyone's just all defensive because Obama sprung a leak when a guy knocked him off balance.

Shame how you are so deluded about reality, since Obama was not in any way off balance and provided an answer which was highly persuasive to anyone rational that he's right.
 

Viditor

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Oct 25, 1999
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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Shame Joe isn't licensed to fix any such leak. Real or imagined.

Of all the things to hang your hat on in this election, I can't believe how many people can't get beyond his lack of a license, even when confronted with the fact that he DOESN'T NEED ONE.

They are doing whatever they can to distract from the fact that Joe the Plumber has a very good point. Obama wants to raise his taxes and tries to justify it by saying he is only trying to "spread the wealth around"

And this is the point where Republicans stop listening I see...
Obama is LOWERING JOE'S TAXES...Why should he need to justify that???
 

Throckmorton

Lifer
Aug 23, 2007
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Originally posted by: Wheezer
I find in confusing that libs will fight to the death for a woman to have the independent control over another life she carries in her gut, but they are all for maintaining control over another mans wallet.

Are you saying GWB and the Republican dominated Congress repealed income taxes? Where was I when that happened?
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Shame Joe isn't licensed to fix any such leak. Real or imagined.

Of all the things to hang your hat on in this election, I can't believe how many people can't get beyond his lack of a license, even when confronted with the fact that he DOESN'T NEED ONE.

They are doing whatever they can to distract from the fact that Joe the Plumber has a very good point. Obama wants to raise his taxes and tries to justify it by saying he is only trying to "spread the wealth around"

And this is the point where Republicans stop listening I see...
Obama is LOWERING JOE'S TAXES...Why should he need to justify that???
Yep, not even sure why Corbett bothers to post anymore.

 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Everyone's just all defensive because Obama sprung a leak when a guy knocked him off balance.

Shame how you are so deluded about reality, since Obama was not in any way off balance and provided an answer which was highly persuasive to anyone rational that he's right.

Oh get real. Obama was visibly uncomfortable and out of his element when pressed. Looks like Palin isn't the only one who can't deal with follow up questions.