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noto12ious

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

:laugh: WTF do we even need doctors, engineers, politicians, etc for? I mean, Charlie Sheen, Tom Cruise and the rest of Hollywood are all perfectly capable of making all of our decisions for us. I mean, they get paid to act, therefore they are obviously smarter than us all, no?

Well, they've taken the time to research the facts for themselves... and engineers have publicly come out saying it was controlled demolition :)

There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss.

Like I said in my other post...Back and to the left. Back and to the left.


Well, the fire fighters and news reporters noticed... bombs were found in the buildings, and numerous explosions occured before the towers collapsed. Of course, you won't hear about that in the official 911 Commission Report ;)

USA Today reported the FBI believed bombs brought the towers down

CNN reported secondary devices

NBC also reported secondary devices


Videos of witnesses reporting explosions before the towers collapsed
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide...floor26th_firefighter_high_quality.wmv


Fire fighter: "here we go again"

Another fire fighter: "Bomb in the building, start clearing out"
Background voices: "secondary device..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11+bomb
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

:laugh: WTF do we even need doctors, engineers, politicians, etc for? I mean, Charlie Sheen, Tom Cruise and the rest of Hollywood are all perfectly capable of making all of our decisions for us. I mean, they get paid to act, therefore they are obviously smarter than us all, no?

Well, they've taken the time to research the facts for themselves... and engineers have publicly come out saying it was controlled demolition :)

There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss.

Like I said in my other post...Back and to the left. Back and to the left.


Well, the fire fighters and news reporters noticed... bombs were found in the buildings, and numerous explosions occured before the towers collapsed. Of course, you won't hear about that in the official 911 Commission Report ;)

USA Today reported the FBI believed bombs brought the towers down

CNN reported secondary devices

NBC also reported secondary devices


Videos of witnesses reporting explosions before the towers collapsed
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide...floor26th_firefighter_high_quality.wmv


Fire fighter: "here we go again"

Another fire fighter: "Bomb in the building, start clearing out"
Background voices: "secondary device..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11+bomb

I heard a lot of "maybe"s and "could have been"s. Not once did they mention the possibility of the fuel tanks exploding or gas line explosions. But, hey maybe it was a van or maybe it was a bomb. Good enough for us conspiracy wackos.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

:laugh: WTF do we even need doctors, engineers, politicians, etc for? I mean, Charlie Sheen, Tom Cruise and the rest of Hollywood are all perfectly capable of making all of our decisions for us. I mean, they get paid to act, therefore they are obviously smarter than us all, no?

Well, they've taken the time to research the facts for themselves... and engineers have publicly come out saying it was controlled demolition :)

There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss.

Like I said in my other post...Back and to the left. Back and to the left.


Well, the fire fighters and news reporters noticed... bombs were found in the buildings, and numerous explosions occured before the towers collapsed. Of course, you won't hear about that in the official 911 Commission Report ;)

USA Today reported the FBI believed bombs brought the towers down

CNN reported secondary devices

NBC also reported secondary devices


Videos of witnesses reporting explosions before the towers collapsed
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide...floor26th_firefighter_high_quality.wmv

Listen dumbass...controlled demolitions like would be required for the WTC would require MASSIVE prep and lead time. Not to mention thousands of feet of det cord (or whatever they call it now). You can't just use a cable gun to shoot that crap behind walls and such. The controlled demolition community is a small one, you cannot convince me that one of those companies managed to rig the buildings to drop without some menial laborer running his mouth by now...not even mentioning that the prep for a demo would couldn't be done in clandestine manner.

Take the tinfoil hat off, take a shower, move out of your parents basement and get a grip on reality.
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

:laugh: WTF do we even need doctors, engineers, politicians, etc for? I mean, Charlie Sheen, Tom Cruise and the rest of Hollywood are all perfectly capable of making all of our decisions for us. I mean, they get paid to act, therefore they are obviously smarter than us all, no?

Well, they've taken the time to research the facts for themselves... and engineers have publicly come out saying it was controlled demolition :)

There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss.

Like I said in my other post...Back and to the left. Back and to the left.


Well, the fire fighters and news reporters noticed... bombs were found in the buildings, and numerous explosions occured before the towers collapsed. Of course, you won't hear about that in the official 911 Commission Report ;)

USA Today reported the FBI believed bombs brought the towers down

CNN reported secondary devices

NBC also reported secondary devices


Videos of witnesses reporting explosions before the towers collapsed
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide...floor26th_firefighter_high_quality.wmv


Fire fighter: "here we go again"

Another fire fighter: "Bomb in the building, start clearing out"
Background voices: "secondary device..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11+bomb

I heard a lot of "maybe"s and "could have been"s. Not once did they mention the possibility of the fuel tanks exploding or gas line explosions. But, hey maybe it was a van or maybe it was a bomb. Good enough for us conspiracy wackos.

Explosives certainly explain the molten steel found at ground zero. Explain to me how molten steel was found at ground zero, when FEMA + NIST have admitted the steel on the upper floors did not reach melting temperatures. It's well documented. FEMA + NIST have been unable to explain the molten steel found under WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 :)

Edit: Numerous explosions did occur, that's not even debatable, but to this very day, the government of the United States of America has not acknowledged any of these explosions took place, even though numerous witnesses such as William Rodriguez (google William Rodriguez 9/11), and other fire fighters have testified to the Commission behind closed doors about explosions.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

:laugh: WTF do we even need doctors, engineers, politicians, etc for? I mean, Charlie Sheen, Tom Cruise and the rest of Hollywood are all perfectly capable of making all of our decisions for us. I mean, they get paid to act, therefore they are obviously smarter than us all, no?

Well, they've taken the time to research the facts for themselves... and engineers have publicly come out saying it was controlled demolition :)

There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss.

Like I said in my other post...Back and to the left. Back and to the left.


Well, the fire fighters and news reporters noticed... bombs were found in the buildings, and numerous explosions occured before the towers collapsed. Of course, you won't hear about that in the official 911 Commission Report ;)

USA Today reported the FBI believed bombs brought the towers down

CNN reported secondary devices

NBC also reported secondary devices


Videos of witnesses reporting explosions before the towers collapsed
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide...floor26th_firefighter_high_quality.wmv


Fire fighter: "here we go again"

Another fire fighter: "Bomb in the building, start clearing out"
Background voices: "secondary device..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11+bomb

I heard a lot of "maybe"s and "could have been"s. Not once did they mention the possibility of the fuel tanks exploding or gas line explosions. But, hey maybe it was a van or maybe it was a bomb. Good enough for us conspiracy wackos.

Explosives certainly explain the molten steel found at ground zero. Explain to me how molten steel was found at ground zero, when FEMA + NIST have admitted the steel on the upper floors did not reach melting temperatures. It's well documented. FEMA + NIST have been unable to explain the molten steel found under WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 :)

Demolition charges don't melt the metal, they cut it. Look up cutting(or shaped) charges.
 

myusername

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss..

So if only a few people in the whole world had the expertise to do it deliberately, you choose to believe that 5 towelheads in an airplane managed to do it
SUCCESSFULLY

BY ACCIDENT

TWICE
?
Just looking for some clarification ;)
 

QED

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

:laugh: WTF do we even need doctors, engineers, politicians, etc for? I mean, Charlie Sheen, Tom Cruise and the rest of Hollywood are all perfectly capable of making all of our decisions for us. I mean, they get paid to act, therefore they are obviously smarter than us all, no?

Well, they've taken the time to research the facts for themselves... and engineers have publicly come out saying it was controlled demolition :)

There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss.

Like I said in my other post...Back and to the left. Back and to the left.


Well, the fire fighters and news reporters noticed... bombs were found in the buildings, and numerous explosions occured before the towers collapsed. Of course, you won't hear about that in the official 911 Commission Report ;)

USA Today reported the FBI believed bombs brought the towers down

CNN reported secondary devices

NBC also reported secondary devices


Videos of witnesses reporting explosions before the towers collapsed
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide...floor26th_firefighter_high_quality.wmv


Fire fighter: "here we go again"

Another fire fighter: "Bomb in the building, start clearing out"
Background voices: "secondary device..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11+bomb



So..... by your same logic and rationale there REALLY was a sniper in downtown Pittsburgh today?

That man who actually had a pellet gun must've been a decoy or something... because as you are so eloquently saying first-reports on breaking news stories are always 100% accurate and trustworthy.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: myusername
Originally posted by: Feldenak
There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss..

So if only a few people in the whole world had the expertise to do it deliberately, you choose to believe that 5 towelheads in an airplane managed to do it
SUCCESSFULLY

BY ACCIDENT

TWICE
?
Just looking for some clarification ;)


I'm talking about controlled demolition.

Edit: I'm not an engineer..the way it was explained to me was once the floors above and around the burning planes gave way it created a chain reaction that looked like a CD.
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

:laugh: WTF do we even need doctors, engineers, politicians, etc for? I mean, Charlie Sheen, Tom Cruise and the rest of Hollywood are all perfectly capable of making all of our decisions for us. I mean, they get paid to act, therefore they are obviously smarter than us all, no?

Well, they've taken the time to research the facts for themselves... and engineers have publicly come out saying it was controlled demolition :)

There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss.

Like I said in my other post...Back and to the left. Back and to the left.


Well, the fire fighters and news reporters noticed... bombs were found in the buildings, and numerous explosions occured before the towers collapsed. Of course, you won't hear about that in the official 911 Commission Report ;)

USA Today reported the FBI believed bombs brought the towers down

CNN reported secondary devices

NBC also reported secondary devices


Videos of witnesses reporting explosions before the towers collapsed
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide...floor26th_firefighter_high_quality.wmv


Fire fighter: "here we go again"

Another fire fighter: "Bomb in the building, start clearing out"
Background voices: "secondary device..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11+bomb

I heard a lot of "maybe"s and "could have been"s. Not once did they mention the possibility of the fuel tanks exploding or gas line explosions. But, hey maybe it was a van or maybe it was a bomb. Good enough for us conspiracy wackos.

Explosives certainly explain the molten steel found at ground zero. Explain to me how molten steel was found at ground zero, when FEMA + NIST have admitted the steel on the upper floors did not reach melting temperatures. It's well documented. FEMA + NIST have been unable to explain the molten steel found under WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 :)

Demolition charges don't melt the metal, they cut it. Look up cutting(or shaped) charges.

But thermite does ;)
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
But thermite does ;)

Holy Christ, you really are a bafoon. I'm done with this thread.

It goes to show how ignorant you are on the subject...do the research, many people already have. FEMA and NIST have been unable to explain the molten steel found at ground zero. It's a critical point.
 

MiniDoom

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

:laugh: WTF do we even need doctors, engineers, politicians, etc for? I mean, Charlie Sheen, Tom Cruise and the rest of Hollywood are all perfectly capable of making all of our decisions for us. I mean, they get paid to act, therefore they are obviously smarter than us all, no?

Well, they've taken the time to research the facts for themselves... and engineers have publicly come out saying it was controlled demolition :)

There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss.

Like I said in my other post...Back and to the left. Back and to the left.


Well, the fire fighters and news reporters noticed... bombs were found in the buildings, and numerous explosions occured before the towers collapsed. Of course, you won't hear about that in the official 911 Commission Report ;)

USA Today reported the FBI believed bombs brought the towers down

CNN reported secondary devices

NBC also reported secondary devices


Videos of witnesses reporting explosions before the towers collapsed
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide...floor26th_firefighter_high_quality.wmv


Fire fighter: "here we go again"

Another fire fighter: "Bomb in the building, start clearing out"
Background voices: "secondary device..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11+bomb

It would take allot to pull this off. Do you really think no one would come forward by now because they felt bad or to make a buck? With all these people behind this. What about the passengers? Some people will believe anything. Benjamin Franklin once said ?Three can keep a secret if two are dead?. That means conspiracy theories die young.
:roll:
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: myusername
Originally posted by: Feldenak
There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss..

So if only a few people in the whole world had the expertise to do it deliberately, you choose to believe that 5 towelheads in an airplane managed to do it
SUCCESSFULLY

BY ACCIDENT

TWICE
?
Just looking for some clarification ;)


I'm talking about controlled demolition.

Shhh.. he thinks he may be on to something. :laugh:
 

ElFenix

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Calls for truly independent investigation, joins growing ranks of prominent credible whistleblowers
how is charlie sheen a 'credible whistleblower'?
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

:laugh: WTF do we even need doctors, engineers, politicians, etc for? I mean, Charlie Sheen, Tom Cruise and the rest of Hollywood are all perfectly capable of making all of our decisions for us. I mean, they get paid to act, therefore they are obviously smarter than us all, no?

Well, they've taken the time to research the facts for themselves... and engineers have publicly come out saying it was controlled demolition :)

There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss.

Like I said in my other post...Back and to the left. Back and to the left.


Well, the fire fighters and news reporters noticed... bombs were found in the buildings, and numerous explosions occured before the towers collapsed. Of course, you won't hear about that in the official 911 Commission Report ;)

USA Today reported the FBI believed bombs brought the towers down

CNN reported secondary devices

NBC also reported secondary devices


Videos of witnesses reporting explosions before the towers collapsed
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide...floor26th_firefighter_high_quality.wmv


Fire fighter: "here we go again"

Another fire fighter: "Bomb in the building, start clearing out"
Background voices: "secondary device..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11+bomb

It would take allot to pull this off. Do you really think no one would come forward by now because they felt bad or to make a buck? With all these people behind this. What about the passengers? Some people will believe anything. Benjamin Franklin once said ?Three can keep a secret if two are dead?. That means conspiracy theories die young.
:roll:


Of course it would take a lot... but why would they come forward if they were involved in the first place? Operation Northwoods was kept quiet for 40 years.

Many engineers have disagreed with the official story regarding the collapse, including engineer magazines overseas (don't forget, the 911 commission completely omitted WTC7's collapse from their report because FEMA + NIST have been unable to explain its collapse. FEMA even admitted their version for the collapse (due to fires) had a "low probability" of occuring)

MIT engineer, who also references others:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248

 

JulesMaximus

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Who really gives a sh!t what some halfwit actor thinks? This guy is barely literate.

Seriously, he's an idiot...this just proves it beyond a reasonable doubt.
 

MiniDoom

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

:laugh: WTF do we even need doctors, engineers, politicians, etc for? I mean, Charlie Sheen, Tom Cruise and the rest of Hollywood are all perfectly capable of making all of our decisions for us. I mean, they get paid to act, therefore they are obviously smarter than us all, no?

Well, they've taken the time to research the facts for themselves... and engineers have publicly come out saying it was controlled demolition :)

There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss.

Like I said in my other post...Back and to the left. Back and to the left.


Well, the fire fighters and news reporters noticed... bombs were found in the buildings, and numerous explosions occured before the towers collapsed. Of course, you won't hear about that in the official 911 Commission Report ;)

USA Today reported the FBI believed bombs brought the towers down

CNN reported secondary devices

NBC also reported secondary devices


Videos of witnesses reporting explosions before the towers collapsed
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide...floor26th_firefighter_high_quality.wmv


Fire fighter: "here we go again"

Another fire fighter: "Bomb in the building, start clearing out"
Background voices: "secondary device..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11+bomb

It would take allot to pull this off. Do you really think no one would come forward by now because they felt bad or to make a buck? With all these people behind this. What about the passengers? Some people will believe anything. Benjamin Franklin once said ?Three can keep a secret if two are dead?. That means conspiracy theories die young.
:roll:


Of course it would take a lot... but why would they come forward if they were involved in the first place? Operation Northwoods was kept quiet for 40 years.

Many engineers have disagreed with the official story regarding the collapse, including engineer magazines overseas (don't forget, the 911 commission completely omitted WTC7's collapse from their report because FEMA + NIST have been unable to explain its collapse. FEMA even admitted their version for the collapse (due to fires) had a "low probability" of occuring)

MIT engineer, who also references others:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248


Big difference, Operation Northwood never happened. The government can?t do much right let alone a conspiracy on this scale.
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

:laugh: WTF do we even need doctors, engineers, politicians, etc for? I mean, Charlie Sheen, Tom Cruise and the rest of Hollywood are all perfectly capable of making all of our decisions for us. I mean, they get paid to act, therefore they are obviously smarter than us all, no?

Well, they've taken the time to research the facts for themselves... and engineers have publicly come out saying it was controlled demolition :)

There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss.

Like I said in my other post...Back and to the left. Back and to the left.


Well, the fire fighters and news reporters noticed... bombs were found in the buildings, and numerous explosions occured before the towers collapsed. Of course, you won't hear about that in the official 911 Commission Report ;)

USA Today reported the FBI believed bombs brought the towers down

CNN reported secondary devices

NBC also reported secondary devices


Videos of witnesses reporting explosions before the towers collapsed
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide...floor26th_firefighter_high_quality.wmv


Fire fighter: "here we go again"

Another fire fighter: "Bomb in the building, start clearing out"
Background voices: "secondary device..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11+bomb

It would take allot to pull this off. Do you really think no one would come forward by now because they felt bad or to make a buck? With all these people behind this. What about the passengers? Some people will believe anything. Benjamin Franklin once said ?Three can keep a secret if two are dead?. That means conspiracy theories die young.
:roll:


Of course it would take a lot... but why would they come forward if they were involved in the first place? Operation Northwoods was kept quiet for 40 years.

Many engineers have disagreed with the official story regarding the collapse, including engineer magazines overseas (don't forget, the 911 commission completely omitted WTC7's collapse from their report because FEMA + NIST have been unable to explain its collapse. FEMA even admitted their version for the collapse (due to fires) had a "low probability" of occuring)

MIT engineer, who also references others:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248


Big difference, Operation Northwood never happened. The government can?t do much right let alone a conspiracy on this scale.

Don't be naive in thinking Bush and Cheney were the ones pulling the strings.

Even PNAC's own documents said they needed a "New Pearl Harbor".

Sheen's interview is coming after Maxim Magazine and New York Metro ran articles this past week. The truth is coming out, which is always a good thing :)
 

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USS Liberty, new charges (from 2003)

people died
coverup ordered
military followed orders and didn't talk
didnt hear about it till 35 years later
yadda yadda yadda

[Though Boston had made these charges informally, this was the first time a sworn affidavit supported them. Boston said he had been a serving naval officer and followed orders keeping quiet about his knowledge for 36 years.]

You see, you keep quiet about what you know, or you end up like that Brazilian guy in London who got shot 7 times in the head. OR you're a mercenary type and you love death.
 

MiniDoom

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

:laugh: WTF do we even need doctors, engineers, politicians, etc for? I mean, Charlie Sheen, Tom Cruise and the rest of Hollywood are all perfectly capable of making all of our decisions for us. I mean, they get paid to act, therefore they are obviously smarter than us all, no?

Well, they've taken the time to research the facts for themselves... and engineers have publicly come out saying it was controlled demolition :)

There are only so many people in the world with the expertise to bring down buildings like the WTC...you honestly think those people and the people working for them would keep quiet? I'm no expert but even I know you cannot do a controlled demolition like that without someone...anyone noticing something amiss.

Like I said in my other post...Back and to the left. Back and to the left.


Well, the fire fighters and news reporters noticed... bombs were found in the buildings, and numerous explosions occured before the towers collapsed. Of course, you won't hear about that in the official 911 Commission Report ;)

USA Today reported the FBI believed bombs brought the towers down

CNN reported secondary devices

NBC also reported secondary devices


Videos of witnesses reporting explosions before the towers collapsed
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide...floor26th_firefighter_high_quality.wmv


Fire fighter: "here we go again"

Another fire fighter: "Bomb in the building, start clearing out"
Background voices: "secondary device..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11+bomb

It would take allot to pull this off. Do you really think no one would come forward by now because they felt bad or to make a buck? With all these people behind this. What about the passengers? Some people will believe anything. Benjamin Franklin once said ?Three can keep a secret if two are dead?. That means conspiracy theories die young.
:roll:


Of course it would take a lot... but why would they come forward if they were involved in the first place? Operation Northwoods was kept quiet for 40 years.

Many engineers have disagreed with the official story regarding the collapse, including engineer magazines overseas (don't forget, the 911 commission completely omitted WTC7's collapse from their report because FEMA + NIST have been unable to explain its collapse. FEMA even admitted their version for the collapse (due to fires) had a "low probability" of occuring)

MIT engineer, who also references others:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248


Big difference, Operation Northwood never happened. The government can?t do much right let alone a conspiracy on this scale.

Don't be naive in thinking Bush and Cheney were the ones pulling the strings.

Even PNAC's own documents said they needed a "New Pearl Harbor".

Sheen's interview is coming after Maxim Magazine and New York Metro ran articles this past week. The truth is coming out, which is always a good thing :)

Who did it then? The Mossad? Are you going to tell me next the moon landing never happened? I know there are people who would like for it to happen. But it would be impossible to execute.
 

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Originally posted by: rdubbz420


Who did it then? The Mossad? Are you going to tell me next the moon landing never happened? I know there are people who would like for it to happen. But it would be impossible to execute.

Elements within our government, obviously. Bush and Cheney are part of the coverup, but I doubt they were in charge of pulling the strings.
Moon landing? I never doubted that for a second. However, I do doubt the Warren Commission's findings, just like the 911 Commission.

For example,
911 Commission intentionally omitting Norman Mineta's damning testimony
 

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There are alot of things you have to accept as truths for this article to be taken seriously... I just don't see the proof. Still I wouldn't mind learning more about this theory. Still just a theory. I imagine that the government is holding info on 9/11 from us... but this article has a very accusatory tone.
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: morkinva
USS Liberty, new charges (from 2003)

people died
coverup ordered
military followed orders and didn't talk
didnt hear about it till 35 years later
yadda yadda yadda

[Though Boston had made these charges informally, this was the first time a sworn affidavit supported them. Boston said he had been a serving naval officer and followed orders keeping quiet about his knowledge for 36 years.]

You see, you keep quiet about what you know, or you end up like that Brazilian guy in London who got shot 7 times in the head. OR you're a mercenary type and you love death.


good point.
 

MiniDoom

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: rdubbz420


Who did it then? The Mossad? Are you going to tell me next the moon landing never happened? I know there are people who would like for it to happen. But it would be impossible to execute.

Elements within our government, obviously. Bush and Cheney are part of the coverup, but I doubt they were in charge of pulling the strings.
Moon landing? I never doubted that for a second. However, I do doubt the Warren Commission's findings, just like the 911 Commission.

For example,
911 Commission intentionally omitting Norman Mineta's damning testimony

Elements within our government are ordinary people with conscience and convictions. I doubt any American can or would kill thousand of innocent fellow citizens, women and children if ordered to. Yes it?s a nice little pipe dream of yours but it would never happen, at least with so many conspirators.