Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

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event8horizon

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Originally posted by: JohnnyGage
Originally posted by: Vicken
debunked debunked and debunked

1) The amount of thermite needed to bring down that building would be literally tons. How would that go unnoticed?

2) Thermite does not burn horizontally.

3) None of the steel shows signs of thermite damage. Thermite does not burn evenly. It makes nasty holes with molten metal drips.

4) There is zero evidence of thermite.

Reposting for Event8. Here is one objection.

have u read the paper yet. i myself would also like to have a few more things added to the paper. i would like to know what u think of the paper. focus on the paper and their scientific claims.
 
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Originally posted by: event8horizon
Originally posted by: JohnnyGage
Originally posted by: Vicken
debunked debunked and debunked

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

1) The amount of thermite needed to bring down that building would be literally tons. How would that go unnoticed?

2) Thermite does not burn horizontally.

3) None of the steel shows signs of thermite damage. Thermite does not burn evenly. It makes nasty holes with molten metal drips.

4) There is zero evidence of thermite.

Reposting for Event8. Here is one objection.


1. one might find tons here:
from the research paper posted

1. How Much of the Energetic Red Material Survived
During the WTC Destruction?
In the sample provided by collector J. MacKinlay the
fraction of red/gray chips was roughly estimated. Fifteen
small chips having a total mass of 1.74 mg were extracted
from a 1.6 g sample of dust from which readily identifiable
glass and concrete fragments had been removed by
hand. Thus the fraction of red/gray chips was approximately
0.1% by weight in the separated dust Another sampling
showed 69 small red/gray chips in a 4.9 g sample of separated
dust. Further samples are being analyzed to refine this
estimate. The fall of the WTC Towers produced enormous
clouds of dust whose total mass is difficult to ascertain; but
clearly the total mass of red/gray chips in the WTC dust
must be substantial given the fraction observed in these samplings.

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn-MCCZ3O1M

there were also multiple layered chips found. one might be able to bend and manipulte this stuff. premade sheets with layers and layers deep that could be wraped around steel...just one scenario.

3. it would be interesting to know what caused this only after alittle over 7 days of being in the wtc 7 pile. Dr. Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl got there sept 19. he saw this when he arrived outside his hotel. now one has to assume this piece also came from the top of the pile since it was loaded just after 7 days. avaris flew over the wtc sites and did see some hot spots. one hot spot pretty much where column 79 (nist theory about wtc 7 revolves around column 79) was.

"One piece Dr. Astaneh-Asl saw was a charred horizontal I-beam from 7 World Trade Center, a 47-story skyscraper that collapsed from fire eight hours after the attacks. The beam, so named because its cross-section looks like a capital I, had clearly endured searing temperatures. Parts of the flat top of the I, once five-eighths of an inch thick, had vaporized.

Less clear was whether the beam had been charred after the collapse, as it lay in the pile of burning rubble, or whether it had been engulfed in the fire that led to the building's collapse, which would provide a more telling clue.

The answer lay in the beam's twisted shape. As weight pushed down, the center portion had buckled outward.

''This tells me it buckled while it was attached to the column,'' not as it fell, Dr. Astaneh-Asl said, adding, ''It had burned first, then buckled.''

4. the paper proves there was thermite at the wtc.
That doesn't begin to answer the question you were asked. The issue with the use of thermite, first and foremost, is the logistics of placing the charges. The more thermite you bring into the equation the more difficult it is to explain how tons and tons and tons of it were placed in the first place, all without anyone noticing anything out of the ordinary. The truthers are claiming there were tens of tons of it. Yet, no WTC workers, no security, and no maintenance crew have ever mentioned noticing the massive amount work that would have been necessary to access the bare columns, place large amounts of thermite around those columns, cart off the debris from demoliting the drywall, bringing in new insulation/drywall, repainting and having the interior look as if nothing had changed. This would liteally had to have been done in hundreds, if not thousands, of locations in each of the 3 buildings the truthers claimed were demolished. So who did this massive job without ever being noticed? Demolition ninjas?

That's just the first issue. There are many other problems regarding thermite but you have to explain that first glaring issue before you can even begin to contemplate all the other problems with the truther version of events.
 

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Originally posted by: event8horizon
have u read the paper yet. i myself would also like to have a few more things added to the paper. i would like to know what u think of the paper. focus on the paper and their scientific claims.

Yes, I read the paper. And, while it throws around a lot of science words, it is not a well written paper, nor is it in a science peer reviewed journal. It's in a conspiracy nutcase peer reviewed journal. The only people it will convince are people who want to be convinced, and people who are already convinced.

Note: there are "peer reviewed" papers that other nutcases have which prove the world is flat. Don't you think that something of this magnitude would be picked up by the popular media, rather than reposted ad nauseum in every forum on the internet? There's a reason that the rest of the world isn't discussing these results: like the flat-earthers, we know these people are bat shit insane.
 

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tlc asked-
"That doesn't begin to answer the question you were asked. The issue with the use of thermite, first and foremost, is the logistics of placing the charges. The more thermite you bring into the equation the more difficult it is to explain how tons and tons and tons of it were placed in the first place, all without anyone noticing anything out of the ordinary. The truthers are claiming there were tens of tons of it. Yet, no WTC workers, no security, and no maintenance crew have ever mentioned noticing the massive amount work that would have been necessary to access the bare columns, place large amounts of thermite around those columns, cart off the debris from demoliting the drywall, bringing in new insulation/drywall, repainting and having the interior look as if nothing had changed. This would liteally had to have been done in hundreds, if not thousands, of locations in each of the 3 buildings the truthers claimed were demolished. So who did this massive job without ever being noticed? Demolition ninjas?

That's just the first issue. There are many other problems regarding thermite but you have to explain that first glaring issue before you can even begin to contemplate all the other problems with the truther version of events."


are u saying that there was thermite in the dust afterall and now u are trying to figure out the who and how??

where did the planes crash into?? the upgraded floors put in just befor 911. and from what i remember, secure computer rooms. security was kroll. look them up. ex cia, british inteligence. as with wtc 7, do u remember they built the oem just right before 911. that might be the how they brought it in. this wasnt just a spur of the moment op. took yrs.
ill be gone for a few hrs but ill respond when i get back.
thanks for tlc for hopefully reading and understanding the signifigance of this research paper!!
 

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Originally posted by: event8horizon
tlc asked-
"That doesn't begin to answer the question you were asked. The issue with the use of thermite, first and foremost, is the logistics of placing the charges. The more thermite you bring into the equation the more difficult it is to explain how tons and tons and tons of it were placed in the first place, all without anyone noticing anything out of the ordinary. The truthers are claiming there were tens of tons of it. Yet, no WTC workers, no security, and no maintenance crew have ever mentioned noticing the massive amount work that would have been necessary to access the bare columns, place large amounts of thermite around those columns, cart off the debris from demoliting the drywall, bringing in new insulation/drywall, repainting and having the interior look as if nothing had changed. This would liteally had to have been done in hundreds, if not thousands, of locations in each of the 3 buildings the truthers claimed were demolished. So who did this massive job without ever being noticed? Demolition ninjas?

That's just the first issue. There are many other problems regarding thermite but you have to explain that first glaring issue before you can even begin to contemplate all the other problems with the truther version of events."


are u saying that there was thermite in the dust afterall and now u are trying to figure out the who and how??

where did the planes crash into?? the upgraded floors put in just befor 911. and from what i remember, secure computer rooms. security was kroll. look them up. ex cia, british inteligence. as with wtc 7, do u remember they built the oem just right before 911. that might be the how they brought it in. this wasnt just a spur of the moment op. took yrs.
ill be gone for a few hrs but ill respond when i get back.
thanks for tlc for hopefully reading and understanding the signifigance of this research paper!!


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Originally posted by: event8horizon
are u saying that there was thermite in the dust afterall and now u are trying to figure out the who and how??
How do you get that out of anything I said? I'm saying that if thermite was used, as the truthers claim, how did they manage to place tens and tens of tons of it in all 3 buildings without anyone noticing?

where did the planes crash into?? the upgraded floors put in just befor 911. and from what i remember, secure computer rooms. security was kroll. look them up. ex cia, british inteligence. as with wtc 7, do u remember they built the oem just right before 911. that might be the how they brought it in. this wasnt just a spur of the moment op. took yrs.
ill be gone for a few hrs but ill respond when i get back.
thanks for tlc for hopefully reading and understanding the signifigance of this research paper!!
Now this took years? So now Clinton was fully in on this too and he handed it off to GWB? Upgraded floors? Are you talking about the cabling upgrade? As far as Kroll, who do you imagine would be heading up a security firm, former ballet dancers?

Again, I'm asking you to consider the logisitcs of placing the thermite and to fully explain how it would have been possible without anyone noticing anything out of the ordinary. You haven't provided any sort of explanation that doesn't go beyond Hollywood cloak & dagger fantasy and pure speculation.
 

benzylic

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: event8horizon
are u saying that there was thermite in the dust afterall and now u are trying to figure out the who and how??
How do you get that out of anything I said? I'm saying that if thermite was used, as the truthers claim, how did they manage to place tens and tens of tons of it in all 3 buildings without anyone noticing?

where did the planes crash into?? the upgraded floors put in just befor 911. and from what i remember, secure computer rooms. security was kroll. look them up. ex cia, british inteligence. as with wtc 7, do u remember they built the oem just right before 911. that might be the how they brought it in. this wasnt just a spur of the moment op. took yrs.
ill be gone for a few hrs but ill respond when i get back.
thanks for tlc for hopefully reading and understanding the signifigance of this research paper!!
Now this took years? So now Clinton was fully in on this too and he handed it off to GWB? Upgraded floors? Are you talking about the cabling upgrade? As far as Kroll, who do you imagine would be heading up a security firm, former ballet dancers?

Again, I'm asking you to consider the logisitcs of placing the thermite and to fully explain how it would have been possible without anyone noticing anything out of the ordinary. You haven't provided any sort of explanation that doesn't go beyond Hollywood cloak & dagger fantasy and pure speculation.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I want to see him explain that one
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
One of the most fundamental assumptions made in 9/11 conspiracy theories is that the government has more power than it really does. First, the security cameras in place just about anywhere aren't designed to pick up something moving 500+ mph. I assumed that the cameras were ~30 fps, but I was informed by someone on these forums who does security installations that many cameras used are much slower than that. Second, the cameras aren't HD. Third, the cameras aren't aimed at the sky, they're aimed at roads, sidewalks, passageways, and doors.
Why are you assuming what hit the pentagon came diving down out of the sky? Not even the official reports suggest that. Here is some videos they did release:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAaP4Z3zls8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L75Gga92WO8#t=1m20s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bapUohJn1E8

But there were other videos confiscated and still not released:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/flight77

Sigh, notice what I wrote. None of those cameras are aimed at the sky.
I noticed what you wrote and asked a question in response, as bolded above, but you are apparently too oblivious to acknowledge it.
Originally posted by: mxrider
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: event8horizon
are u saying that there was thermite in the dust afterall and now u are trying to figure out the who and how??
How do you get that out of anything I said? I'm saying that if thermite was used, as the truthers claim, how did they manage to place tens and tens of tons of it in all 3 buildings without anyone noticing?

where did the planes crash into?? the upgraded floors put in just befor 911. and from what i remember, secure computer rooms. security was kroll. look them up. ex cia, british inteligence. as with wtc 7, do u remember they built the oem just right before 911. that might be the how they brought it in. this wasnt just a spur of the moment op. took yrs.
ill be gone for a few hrs but ill respond when i get back.
thanks for tlc for hopefully reading and understanding the signifigance of this research paper!!
Now this took years? So now Clinton was fully in on this too and he handed it off to GWB? Upgraded floors? Are you talking about the cabling upgrade? As far as Kroll, who do you imagine would be heading up a security firm, former ballet dancers?

Again, I'm asking you to consider the logisitcs of placing the thermite and to fully explain how it would have been possible without anyone noticing anything out of the ordinary. You haven't provided any sort of explanation that doesn't go beyond Hollywood cloak & dagger fantasy and pure speculation.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I want to see him explain that one
It is TLC's claim, ask him to explain it.
 

dphantom

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Originally posted by: mxrider
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: event8horizon
are u saying that there was thermite in the dust afterall and now u are trying to figure out the who and how??
How do you get that out of anything I said? I'm saying that if thermite was used, as the truthers claim, how did they manage to place tens and tens of tons of it in all 3 buildings without anyone noticing?

where did the planes crash into?? the upgraded floors put in just befor 911. and from what i remember, secure computer rooms. security was kroll. look them up. ex cia, british inteligence. as with wtc 7, do u remember they built the oem just right before 911. that might be the how they brought it in. this wasnt just a spur of the moment op. took yrs.
ill be gone for a few hrs but ill respond when i get back.
thanks for tlc for hopefully reading and understanding the signifigance of this research paper!!
Now this took years? So now Clinton was fully in on this too and he handed it off to GWB? Upgraded floors? Are you talking about the cabling upgrade? As far as Kroll, who do you imagine would be heading up a security firm, former ballet dancers?

Again, I'm asking you to consider the logisitcs of placing the thermite and to fully explain how it would have been possible without anyone noticing anything out of the ordinary. You haven't provided any sort of explanation that doesn't go beyond Hollywood cloak & dagger fantasy and pure speculation.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I want to see him explain that one

ooops.
 

benzylic

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
One of the most fundamental assumptions made in 9/11 conspiracy theories is that the government has more power than it really does. First, the security cameras in place just about anywhere aren't designed to pick up something moving 500+ mph. I assumed that the cameras were ~30 fps, but I was informed by someone on these forums who does security installations that many cameras used are much slower than that. Second, the cameras aren't HD. Third, the cameras aren't aimed at the sky, they're aimed at roads, sidewalks, passageways, and doors.
Why are you assuming what hit the pentagon came diving down out of the sky? Not even the official reports suggest that. Here is some videos they did release:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAaP4Z3zls8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L75Gga92WO8#t=1m20s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bapUohJn1E8

But there were other videos confiscated and still not released:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/flight77

Sigh, notice what I wrote. None of those cameras are aimed at the sky.
I noticed what you wrote and asked a question in response, as bolded above, but you are apparently too oblivious to acknowledge it.
Originally posted by: mxrider
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: event8horizon
are u saying that there was thermite in the dust afterall and now u are trying to figure out the who and how??
How do you get that out of anything I said? I'm saying that if thermite was used, as the truthers claim, how did they manage to place tens and tens of tons of it in all 3 buildings without anyone noticing?

where did the planes crash into?? the upgraded floors put in just befor 911. and from what i remember, secure computer rooms. security was kroll. look them up. ex cia, british inteligence. as with wtc 7, do u remember they built the oem just right before 911. that might be the how they brought it in. this wasnt just a spur of the moment op. took yrs.
ill be gone for a few hrs but ill respond when i get back.
thanks for tlc for hopefully reading and understanding the signifigance of this research paper!!
Now this took years? So now Clinton was fully in on this too and he handed it off to GWB? Upgraded floors? Are you talking about the cabling upgrade? As far as Kroll, who do you imagine would be heading up a security firm, former ballet dancers?

Again, I'm asking you to consider the logisitcs of placing the thermite and to fully explain how it would have been possible without anyone noticing anything out of the ordinary. You haven't provided any sort of explanation that doesn't go beyond Hollywood cloak & dagger fantasy and pure speculation.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I want to see him explain that one
It is TLC's claim, ask him to explain it.

Um no event8horizon is the one insinuating Clinton would have been involved by saying it would take years to pull this off. Or did Bush and Cheney start planning this in 1996 and the final piece of the puzzle to put the operation into motion was for them to get elected?
 
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Originally posted by: mxrider
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
One of the most fundamental assumptions made in 9/11 conspiracy theories is that the government has more power than it really does. First, the security cameras in place just about anywhere aren't designed to pick up something moving 500+ mph. I assumed that the cameras were ~30 fps, but I was informed by someone on these forums who does security installations that many cameras used are much slower than that. Second, the cameras aren't HD. Third, the cameras aren't aimed at the sky, they're aimed at roads, sidewalks, passageways, and doors.
Why are you assuming what hit the pentagon came diving down out of the sky? Not even the official reports suggest that. Here is some videos they did release:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAaP4Z3zls8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L75Gga92WO8#t=1m20s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bapUohJn1E8

But there were other videos confiscated and still not released:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/flight77

Sigh, notice what I wrote. None of those cameras are aimed at the sky.
I noticed what you wrote and asked a question in response, as bolded above, but you are apparently too oblivious to acknowledge it.
Originally posted by: mxrider
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: event8horizon
are u saying that there was thermite in the dust afterall and now u are trying to figure out the who and how??
How do you get that out of anything I said? I'm saying that if thermite was used, as the truthers claim, how did they manage to place tens and tens of tons of it in all 3 buildings without anyone noticing?

where did the planes crash into?? the upgraded floors put in just befor 911. and from what i remember, secure computer rooms. security was kroll. look them up. ex cia, british inteligence. as with wtc 7, do u remember they built the oem just right before 911. that might be the how they brought it in. this wasnt just a spur of the moment op. took yrs.
ill be gone for a few hrs but ill respond when i get back.
thanks for tlc for hopefully reading and understanding the signifigance of this research paper!!
Now this took years? So now Clinton was fully in on this too and he handed it off to GWB? Upgraded floors? Are you talking about the cabling upgrade? As far as Kroll, who do you imagine would be heading up a security firm, former ballet dancers?

Again, I'm asking you to consider the logisitcs of placing the thermite and to fully explain how it would have been possible without anyone noticing anything out of the ordinary. You haven't provided any sort of explanation that doesn't go beyond Hollywood cloak & dagger fantasy and pure speculation.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I want to see him explain that one
It is TLC's claim, ask him to explain it.

Um no event8horizon is the one insinuating Clinton would have been involved by saying it would take years to pull this off. Or did Bush and Cheney start planning this in 1996 and the final piece of the puzzle to put the operation into motion was for them to get elected?
You might not get an answer from him on that one because I doubt he can source a youtube video as a rebuttal. ;)
 

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
9-11 conspiracy theories might be the ONE P&N topic I would not mind seeing banned.

This is my daily dose of humor.

Multiples could get locked, for a single one, it is interesting to see the CTs squirm for a new justification everytime their next original theory gets scientifically or logistically demolished.

 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
9-11 conspiracy theories might be the ONE P&N topic I would not mind seeing banned.

This is my daily dose of humor.

Multiples could get locked, for a single one, it is interesting to see the CTs squirm for a new justification everytime their next original theory gets scientifically or logistically demolished.
If you understand the concept of Occam's razor then you will understand why this people are so damn crazy.
 
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
9-11 conspiracy theories might be the ONE P&N topic I would not mind seeing banned.

This is my daily dose of humor.

Multiples could get locked, for a single one, it is interesting to see the CTs squirm for a new justification everytime their next original theory gets scientifically or logistically demolished.
If you understand the concept of Occam's razor then you will understand why this people are so damn crazy.

Wait... what? Occams razor is all about the simplest possible explanation being the most credible, why wouldn't Common understand that, he's arguing FOR the simplest possible explanation.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
9-11 conspiracy theories might be the ONE P&N topic I would not mind seeing banned.

This is my daily dose of humor.

Multiples could get locked, for a single one, it is interesting to see the CTs squirm for a new justification everytime their next original theory gets scientifically or logistically demolished.
If you understand the concept of Occam's razor then you will understand why this people are so damn crazy.

Wait... what? Occams razor is all about the simplest possible explanation being the most credible, why wouldn't Common understand that, he's arguing FOR the simplest possible explanation.

Simplest possible explanation:
2 jets, hijacked by terrorists, were flown into the World Trade Center towers. The impact and resulting inferno weakened the structure enough that the weight of the floors above the weak spot caused the floor to pancake. The resulting kinetic energy of the moving floors caused subsequent floors to fail in series.

Bat shit insane explanation: there were 10's of 1000's of pounds of hidden explosives. No one noticed the explosives being brought into the building. No one noticed all the holes cut into the walls to expose the structural members that had to be cut with thermite. The real passengers on the jets are hidden somewhere. The jets were flown by remote control into the trade centers. This was done as a diversionary tactic - with all the smoke, no one would see the bombs going off. Only some of the firemen in the building were actually firemen. The rest were rigging the remaining explosives. Bringing down the 2 towers was just a diversionary tactic to hide the real target: one of the other buildings adjacent to the towers.

 
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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
9-11 conspiracy theories might be the ONE P&N topic I would not mind seeing banned.

This is my daily dose of humor.

Multiples could get locked, for a single one, it is interesting to see the CTs squirm for a new justification everytime their next original theory gets scientifically or logistically demolished.
If you understand the concept of Occam's razor then you will understand why this people are so damn crazy.

Wait... what? Occams razor is all about the simplest possible explanation being the most credible, why wouldn't Common understand that, he's arguing FOR the simplest possible explanation.

Simplest possible explanation:
2 jets, hijacked by terrorists, were flown into the World Trade Center towers. The impact and resulting inferno weakened the structure enough that the weight of the floors above the weak spot caused the floor to pancake. The resulting kinetic energy of the moving floors caused subsequent floors to fail in series.

Bat shit insane explanation: there were 10's of 1000's of pounds of hidden explosives. No one noticed the explosives being brought into the building. No one noticed all the holes cut into the walls to expose the structural members that had to be cut with thermite. The real passengers on the jets are hidden somewhere. The jets were flown by remote control into the trade centers. This was done as a diversionary tactic - with all the smoke, no one would see the bombs going off. Only some of the firemen in the building were actually firemen. The rest were rigging the remaining explosives. Bringing down the 2 towers was just a diversionary tactic to hide the real target: one of the other buildings adjacent to the towers.

Exactly my point.

Occams is what CC is claiming instead of CT's running around with their "theories" who are against that view.

 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: mxrider
Um no event8horizon is the one insinuating Clinton would have been involved by saying it would take years to pull this off. Or did Bush and Cheney start planning this in 1996 and the final piece of the puzzle to put the operation into motion was for them to get elected?
event8horizon didn't suggest either administration played any part in the planning, TLC came up with that conspiracy theory on his own.
 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: KlokWyze
No man, I'm saying the problem isn't who did it. It doesn't matter who did it. Whenever an event like this happens normal people like you will always turn to authority for answers & orders..... without question.

You see what I'm saying?

Since these tinfoil nutters are so "crazy", why try & justify your beliefs to them? I don't argue about the meaning of life with homeless crackheads. LOL
Yeah, I see what you're saying. You're proffering yet another version of the ridiculously oafish and sophomoric "lemming" argument and making the squalid assumption that people like me haven't actually looked into the facts of the matter; that I merely take my marching orders willingly and without argument. That's the first point where you are wrong. You also try to imply that you are somehow more aware than those "normal people" and can see beyond what they see. Odd, but you haven't demonstrated any of that alleged great knowledge and awareness in the least concerning this matter. In fact, about all you seem to be doing is demonstrating a paranoia about authority, an underpinning and the great foundation common to most truthers.

btw, I'm not trying to justify any beliefs to truthers. Truthers are hopeless. I just want to prevent the truthers from poisoning the minds of others with their hocus pocus, superficial baloney. So if you have nothing to add related to the facts of the matter around 9/11, kindly step aside and allow those who are aware of the facts deal with this.

You see what I'm saying?

No need to take it personally man. I can see that you feel really strongly about this & that's what's guiding your response.

I've looked @ quite a bit of the information & the one thing I eventually concluded was that arguing online about scientific evidence regarding something as emotionally charged as 9/11 is a waste of my time, & probably yours as well.

Have fun "preventing the truthers" from poisoning others. :laugh:

 

wwswimming

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146 replies. 1458 page views.

this thread is tracking at about a perfect 1:10 ratio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6DQjBfbn24

Danish television interviews lead researcher on the discovery
of a variety of thermite labelled "nano-thermite".

"Chemist talk about the findings of explosives in dust from World Trade Center."
 

event8horizon

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Originally posted by: wwswimming
146 replies. 1458 page views.

this thread is tracking at about a perfect 1:10 ratio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6DQjBfbn24

Danish television interviews lead researcher on the discovery
of a variety of thermite labelled "nano-thermite".

"Chemist talk about the findings of explosives in dust from World Trade Center."



i havent seen that yet! is that a danish mainstream media outlet?
 
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LOL crazies. Try loosening the tin foil, it's cutting off the circulation to your higher brain functions (if they even exist).