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Active Duty Soldier Illegally Disarmed and Arrested

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Lanyap said:
If he had a semi auto hunting rifle slung over his shoulder nobody would have reported him and the police would have never bothered him. The fact that he had what most people would consider an assault rifle strapped to his chest and a handgun at his side obviously created this incident. Both sides were at fault in this. The guy was obvioulsy combative and wanted to provoke the LEO who was responding to a concerned citizen report but the LEO could have handled it better.

If this guy was legally carrying a 50 cal sniper rifle or M249 SAW it would have provoked the same results if not worse.
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Lmao. He did have a semi automatic hunting rifle on him.
 
For the first minute or so, it's clear contempt of cop. Sure, it escalates from there, but he's not solely to blame.
 
ciba said:
For the first minute or so, it's clear contempt of cop. Sure, it escalates from there, but he's not solely to blame.
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No laws against contempt of cop. Cops need composure in all situations. Especially when citizens aren't breaking any laws.
 
ch33zw1z said:
I watched the video when I first visited the thread, but I don't recall....did hte cop make an issue of this? Or was the rifle the problem?
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I was taught in my CHL class that open carry of a handgun, rifle, or shotgun was against the law unless you were on property that you own or have permission to hunt. The Texas legislator is currently trying to change the law to allow CHL holders to open carry handguns.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
I was taught in my CHL class that open carry of a handgun, rifle, or shotgun was against the law unless you were on property that you own or have permission to hunt. The Texas legislator is currently trying to change the law to allow CHL holders to open carry handguns.
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Open carry of "long guns" has been legal here forever.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Pistol was likely concealed under shirt.

Concealed permit.

Long gun open carry.

No legal issues.
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Correct on both. The pistol was so well concealed the cop had to be told where to find it. Sad this is happening in Texas, we are better than this. Police everywhere are out of control. By that I mean they are in total control and no longer answer to the Constitution. Every officer should keep a copy on hand at all times. The job description is "To protect and Serve" not "control and suppress".
 
Sohaltang said:
Correct on both. The pistol was so well concealed the cop had to be told where to find it. Sad this is happening in Texas, we are better than this. Police everywhere are out of control. By that I mean they are in total control and no longer answer to the Constitution. Every officer should keep a copy on hand at all times. The job description is "To protect and Serve" not "control and suppress".
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So when the police received a report of a man walking along the road with an assault style rifle strapped to his chest they are supposed to ignore it?
 
Lanyap said:
So when the police received a report of a man walking along the road with an assault style rifle strapped to his chest they are supposed to ignore it?
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That report, yes. There's nothing illegal or threatening in that report.

A report of someone waving one around, no.

In reality, they won't ignore any reports at all, including reports of armed garden gnomes.
 
LTC8K6 said:
That report, yes. There's nothing illegal or threatening in that report.

A report of someone waving one around, no.

In reality, they won't ignore any reports at all, including reports of armed garden gnomes.
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I've owned rifles, shotguns and handguns for 42 years - since I was 14 years old. I'm not afraid of them, I'm a longtime NRA member, hunter, target shooter and I believe we have the right to bear arms but if I see some guy I don't know walking down my street with an AR15 strapped to his chest then I'm going to call the police and I expect them check it out.

It's stunts like this that contribute to people wanting to ban guns.
 
This is the same thing I was taught in my CHL class, the instructor was a retired Constable.

http://felonyguide.com/Texas-Gun-Law.php

Texas Gun Permits
In Texas, as with most other states, there is a distinction made between handguns versus shotguns and rifles. In Texas, you do not need a permit to purchase a gun or rifle. You also do not need to register those weapons or have a license to be an owner of a handgun or rifle. There is a distinction made with regard to the right to carry a gun. Simply put you can't carry a rifle but you can carry a concealed handgun.

However, if you are on your own property, are hunting or involved in a shooting activity such as at an exhibition or gun range you are permitted to openly carry your handgun and/or rifle and shotgun.
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Orignal Earl said:
This is where the gun guys come in and tell you that the police enforce the law.
They don't have to protect you
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And when the "gun guys" come in and tell you that they often include a link to the court case that backs this up. I think it is in this thread already, if not one of the other recent gun threads.
 
Watched your video and while I agree that technicaly your rights may have been violated under your states laws I also think k that you went far out of your way to aggravate and sensationalize the incident for your own personal aggrandizement. Behaving as you did does not help. You come off as a fringe nutjob.
 
davmat787 said:
And when the "gun guys" come in and tell you that they often include a link to the court case that backs this up. I think it is in this thread already, if not one of the other recent gun threads.
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Ah..sorry about that, I didn't read the whole thread.
I guess since you just *think* the link is in here, neither have you, and obviously not the guy I was replying too

edit- In case it's not in this thread, I will post it
top of the google search, can't tell if its a liberal site or a libertarian

The police 'protect and serve' the state, not you

In 1856, the U.S. Supreme Court (South v. Maryland) found that law enforcement officers had no duty to protect any individual. Their duty is to enforce the law in general. More recently, in 1982 (Bowers v. DeVito), the Court of Appeals, Seventh Circuit held, "...there is no Constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered by criminals or madmen. It is monstrous if the state fails to protect its residents... but it does not violate... the Constitution." Later court decisions concurred: the police have no duty to protect you.
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http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=34199
 
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Lanyap said:
I've owned rifles, shotguns and handguns for 42 years - since I was 14 years old. I'm not afraid of them, I'm a longtime NRA member, hunter, target shooter and I believe we have the right to bear arms but if I see some guy I don't know walking down my street with an AR15 strapped to his chest then I'm going to call the police and I expect them check it out.

It's stunts like this that contribute to people wanting to ban guns.
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This is just common sense. Someone walking down the street with an AR15 strapped to their chest is a highly unusual event. The idea that one would not consider that threatening until they took the one second to transfer the weapon to their hands before calling the cops (at which point it is obviously far too late) is absurd.

I believe in an individual's right to arm and protect themselves but the gun nuts who walk around town with rifles strapped to their chests for the explicit purpose of getting a reaction out of people are simply jackasses. I have no idea what sort of personality disorder makes someone want to walk around making others feel threatened in order to prove some political point.
 
There is a so much to say about this thread,

1, Cop tells you to do something, just do it. Arguing with a cop on the street is not going to end well.

2, If the cop does make a false arrest, it opens the cop and whoever he works for up to a civil lawsuit.

3, As for carrying a rifle in public, I only watched a little of the video, it looks like a rural area? As long as no laws were broken, the guy has nothing to worry about.

Just do what you are told, then take it up with the judge later. The cop will have to answer for his actions, but the street is not the place to do it.
 
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