conorvansmack
Diamond Member
- Feb 24, 2004
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The double-barrel in Doom 2 was my favorite weapon.
The shotgun in Fallout 3 was one of my two mainstays (along with the chinese assault rifle) as well.
The shotgun in Fallout 3 was one of my two mainstays (along with the chinese assault rifle) as well.
A shotgun is designed to spread a large amount of "shot" over a big area, so that it is easier to hunt for small game (pheasants and such) It is designed to be a spread pattern so that you can hit a moving target easier, but it is not designed to hit with any decernable force. That is what a slug round is for.
Loved the shotgun in Doom 3. It was easily my most effective weapon and I played through most of the game with it. Strafe in close, fire off 2 rounds, that would pretty much drop most enemies.
I remember when the Doom 3 alpha was leaked. I played it on my 1.3 ghz P4 with a geforce 2 gts. I was in the bathroom part of alpha labs and a HellKnight came at me. As soon as I fired my shotgun at the HellKnight my computer froze and crashed. :laugh:
I remember when the Doom 3 alpha was leaked. I played it on my 1.3 ghz P4 with a geforce 2 gts. I was in the bathroom part of alpha labs and a HellKnight came at me. As soon as I fired my shotgun at the HellKnight my computer froze and crashed. :laugh:
Scout-- is all about shotguns...
Soldier-- shotgun
Pyro-- shotgun
Heavy-- shotgun
Engineer-- shotgun
so true the half have shotguns...
but non have assault rifles.. i guess that is because the setting of the game.. two companies fighting each other lol...
Got some inexplicable urge of playing TF2
Small survey...
shotgun is best used for?
1. Close Range Fight
2. Shooting various targets at once
3. Zombie Hunting
4. Way to get around your bad accuracy
5. dont have anyother weapon around
shotgun is best used for?
1. Close Range Fight
2. Shooting various targets at once
3. Zombie Hunting
4. Way to get around your bad accuracy
5. dont have anyother weapon around
I realize what a shotgun is for, but are you telling me you could survive getting hit from birdshot from 10 yards away? In most videogames, it wouldn't even hurt you (except maybe a sliver). I realize in videogames you can usually get shot a few times from all guns anyways of course, but developers don't make the guns so they spread realistically at all. They've turned them into melee weapons, basically.
AstroManLuca
Lifer
- Jun 24, 2004
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You'd probably be fine. Birdshot isn't very powerful (from here):
Obviously that is anecdotal but talk to anyone who knows anything about ballistics and they'll tell you birdshot is not very dangerous and won't do much damage to anything but small animals like birds and perhaps rodents.
I think most video game shotguns operate on the assumption that they're using buckshot, which doesn't spread as much and penetrates better but does significant damage. Basically the pellets are roughly marble-sized instead of roughly BB-sized. Of course, that's also unrealistic because buckshot doesn't spread enough to make up for poor aim or to hit multiple targets except at a very long range, but who said video games were realistic?
conorvansmack
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HL2 Shotgun secondary fire. I started playing through it again and set the shotgun to expel 800 bb's/pellets for every shot instead of the default 8 (i think its 8 pellets). So much fun.
nitromullet
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I use the shotgun in just about every FPS that has one. The best use for it is in conjunction with a sniper or other scoped gun. Use the scope for distance or single kills, and the shotgun for up close or crowd control.
I've shot textbooks with birdshot at about 10 yards or so, which blew a hole right in them. Obviously it wouldn't do the same to a human but I'm pretty sure it'd stop anyone dead in their tracks. While I don't have any experience with buckshot (and I'm sure that's what most videogames "use"), I can only imagine the kind of damage that would do to a person.
The whole point of what I was saying though is shotguns have a much longer range than is portrayed in most videogames. Someone said that in Halo you have armor and a shield, but your shield doesn't even flicker at more than a Master Chief's length away in Halo 2. I'm sure they did it to balance it against the energy sword but it just comes off as ridiculous.
The same goes for almost all ballistics in videogames though..no bullet drop, there's never and wind, but for some reason, depending on the gun, bullets can just disappear after so long. I remember hearing some kid on COD4 say that a P90 shouldn't be able to kill anyone past a certain distance..but I can't think of any map on the game where there is a distance so great a simple little P90 couldn't shoot fairly accurately in real life.
The whole point of what I was saying though is shotguns have a much longer range than is portrayed in most videogames. Someone said that in Halo you have armor and a shield, but your shield doesn't even flicker at more than a Master Chief's length away in Halo 2. I'm sure they did it to balance it against the energy sword but it just comes off as ridiculous.
The same goes for almost all ballistics in videogames though..no bullet drop, there's never and wind, but for some reason, depending on the gun, bullets can just disappear after so long. I remember hearing some kid on COD4 say that a P90 shouldn't be able to kill anyone past a certain distance..but I can't think of any map on the game where there is a distance so great a simple little P90 couldn't shoot fairly accurately in real life.
ConstipatedVigilante
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Shotguns were amazing in Fallout 1/2. Get a Pancor Jackhammer or a combat shotgun and you'll be blowing people to pieces in no time.
I also remember an awesome mod for Quake 2 that made all the weapons super-powerful with new effects and stuff. The minigun became the streetsweeper, which shot a shotgun shell from each barrel.
The shotguns in GTA4 are pretty effective too. 1 shot kill close up, and if you hit someone with a pellet at range they'll stumble a bit or fall down, so you can get closer.
I also remember an awesome mod for Quake 2 that made all the weapons super-powerful with new effects and stuff. The minigun became the streetsweeper, which shot a shotgun shell from each barrel.
The shotguns in GTA4 are pretty effective too. 1 shot kill close up, and if you hit someone with a pellet at range they'll stumble a bit or fall down, so you can get closer.
styrafoam
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http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm
Real life shotgun tests for people curious about how they act.
Real life shotgun tests for people curious about how they act.
I have never played Halo, but it really depends on the game. Stalker has pretty accurate shotguns if I remember right (as long as you don't use the sawed off double barrel). Doom shotguns were pretty accurate as well.
As for doing damage to someone at 10 yards with bird shot; I was actually on a jury with a guy who shot his girlfriend with a shotgun using birdshot at point blank range. She didn't only survive, but the shot barely did any damage to her at all (from the pictures shown). He used a 410 though, so it isn't exactly the most powerfull shotgun. The guy only got 6-9 months in jail for that. It was a rather strange trial; the defense attorney was so bad that he proved his client guilty, and the prosecutor was just as bad as she didn't prove a thing. If the guy picked a different attorney he probably could of got off.
What do you hate about shotguns the most?
1. Some dont have stocks...
2. Bad crap at long range...
3. Slow Firing Rate...
4. Lack of custom items like the M4...
5. Real Bitch to reload...
1. Some dont have stocks...
2. Bad crap at long range...
3. Slow Firing Rate...
4. Lack of custom items like the M4...
5. Real Bitch to reload...
shortylickens
No Lifer
- Jul 15, 2003
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The SWAT games featured prominant shotgun use. I didnt care for it, but it was there.
Max Payne 1 and 2 had fun shotguns, because you could automatically load them up instantly if you were in the middle of Bullet-Time.
I think they are underpowered in most games. I liked FEAR and left 4 dead because if you were good you could kill two enemies with one blast.
Doom 1 and Serious Sam had awesome pump shotguns because you didnt need to reload them. There was also a mod for Doom to make it semi-automatic.
Max Payne 1 and 2 had fun shotguns, because you could automatically load them up instantly if you were in the middle of Bullet-Time.
I think they are underpowered in most games. I liked FEAR and left 4 dead because if you were good you could kill two enemies with one blast.
Doom 1 and Serious Sam had awesome pump shotguns because you didnt need to reload them. There was also a mod for Doom to make it semi-automatic.
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