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Originally posted by: amicold
Originally posted by: TBone48
Originally posted by: amicold


Because I'm sure most women are having the abortions before the baby forms to the point you're at. Regardless, there's a lot of beautiful things in life. Some find insects beautiful but that doesn't stop you from stepping on ants, spiders, etc. Or grabbing the can of Raid when those wasps nest near your house.

So bugs = human babies?

Insects/Arachnids = Life
Embryo = Life

Your life = worthless. Sensitive fool, you're a perfect example of where an abortion should have occurred.

so you're saying human embryos = insects?
 

TBone48

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Originally posted by: amicold
Originally posted by: TBone48
Originally posted by: amicold


Because I'm sure most women are having the abortions before the baby forms to the point you're at. Regardless, there's a lot of beautiful things in life. Some find insects beautiful but that doesn't stop you from stepping on ants, spiders, etc. Or grabbing the can of Raid when those wasps nest near your house.

So bugs = human babies?

Insects/Arachnids = Life
Embryo = Life

Your life = worthless. Sensitive fool, you're a perfect example of where an abortion should have occurred.


Ooh, another internet philosopher:disgust: Stop, you might hurt my feelings.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: amicold
Originally posted by: TBone48
Originally posted by: amicold


Because I'm sure most women are having the abortions before the baby forms to the point you're at. Regardless, there's a lot of beautiful things in life. Some find insects beautiful but that doesn't stop you from stepping on ants, spiders, etc. Or grabbing the can of Raid when those wasps nest near your house.

So bugs = human babies?

Insects/Arachnids = Lifeform
Embryo = Sentient Lifeform


Fixed
 

amicold

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Originally posted by: TBone48
Originally posted by: amicold
Originally posted by: TBone48
Originally posted by: amicold


Because I'm sure most women are having the abortions before the baby forms to the point you're at. Regardless, there's a lot of beautiful things in life. Some find insects beautiful but that doesn't stop you from stepping on ants, spiders, etc. Or grabbing the can of Raid when those wasps nest near your house.

So bugs = human babies?

Insects/Arachnids = Life
Embryo = Life

Your life = worthless. Sensitive fool, you're a perfect example of where an abortion should have occurred.


Ooh, another internet philosopher:disgust: Stop, you might hurt my feelings.

They don't call me Socrates for nothing.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
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Just an FYI, I've spoken to many Germans (a group of enlightened Europeans if you will) about this issue. Their word for it is Abtreibung.

Anyway, even they think our policies on third-trimester abortion, including partial-birth abortion, are completely inhumane. And if you polled Americans about third-trimester abortions, I think you would find that close 75% or more disagree (poll).

More info on partial birth abortion.

So, I believe you are in the majority when it comes to aborting a 7-month-old unborn baby. Heck, I was born at 7 months.

And I will part with this bombshell: We all have a choice. That choice should be whether we have sex or not. If sex is forced upon you, that's a different matter. If you can't accept the responsibilities of parenthood, you shouldn't be having sex.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: joedrake
Sure, I can symphasize with people who were raped, but that doesn't give the person the right to end/prevent another's life.
So why did you support the murder of the teen who walked on the old guy's lawn?

You disgust me.
 

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Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Tell you what, you worry about yourself and stop carring about what the rest of us do mmmkay?

It's really none of your business.

Put perfectly.
Sweet. I'm gonna go murder 5 people (whom have no friends or close family)... don't worry about them, though, (or me) its none of your business.

u watch, soon hindu's will be killing mcdonalds managers to save the innocent cows:D
 

Dacalo

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Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Tell you what, you worry about yourself and stop carring about what the rest of us do mmmkay?

It's really none of your business.

Put perfectly.
Sweet. I'm gonna go murder 5 people (whom have no friends or close family)... don't worry about them, though, (or me) its none of your business.

This issue is not black/white, zealot. You are a simpleton if you believe that this issue is simplistic as you state.

Although it saddens me to see babies getting aborted especially in later stages, the choice is the mother's alone. It's a choice made between the mother, the doctor, and God/Allah/Buddah (if she is religious).
 

Conky

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Killing children is legal according to the Supreme Court. I don't know why it stops being legal the moment the child is born. I think parents should be able to abort their children until at least the age of 2 since the whole issue is convenience for the mother.
 

JDrake

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Originally posted by: Howard
So why did you support the murder of the teen who walked on the old guy's lawn?

You disgust me.
Babies cannot talk/make their own decisions.
However, an idiot 15 year old can. And FTR, I didn't support the shooting, just felt all the blame shouldn't be brought upon the old man.
 

OdiN

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Abortion = Muder

Plain and simple. As said, there are only a few cases in which I can understand why - a pregnancy that threatens the life of the mother, etc.

Think of it this way. A mother who is say 2 months pregnant is mugged and stabbed, which causes her unborn child to die. Would you want the mugger charged with assault with a deadly weapon, or murder?
 

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Lifer
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What I want to know is...when does the US Constitution start protecting our rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? And when does it stop?
 

amicold

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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Killing children is legal according to the Supreme Court. I don't know why it stops being legal the moment the child is born. I think parents should be able to abort their children until at least the age of 2 since the whole issue is convenience for the mother.

Look, are you celebrating the day you were born once a year, or your conception date? My point exactly.
 

altonb1

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Tell you what, you worry about yourself and stop carring about what the rest of us do mmmkay?

It's really none of your business.

A little defensive?

 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: Howard
So why did you support the murder of the teen who walked on the old guy's lawn?

You disgust me.
Babies cannot talk/make their own decisions.
However, an idiot 15 year old can. And FTR, I didn't support the shooting, just felt all the blame shouldn't be brought upon the old man.

But baby does not have the same DNA as her mother. It's NOT like cutting off a finger or unwanted scab.
 

SLCentral

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Abortion = Muder

Plain and simple. As said, there are only a few cases in which I can understand why - a pregnancy that threatens the life of the mother, etc.

Think of it this way. A mother who is say 2 months pregnant is mugged and stabbed, which causes her unborn child to die. Would you want the mugger charged with assault with a deadly weapon, or murder?

The embryo is not living on it's own; it requires the mothers support in order to survive. Therefore, the MOTHER has control as to what she wants to do with the baby. Therefore, no, it is not murder. It's her body.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: amicold
Originally posted by: TBone48
Originally posted by: amicold


Because I'm sure most women are having the abortions before the baby forms to the point you're at. Regardless, there's a lot of beautiful things in life. Some find insects beautiful but that doesn't stop you from stepping on ants, spiders, etc. Or grabbing the can of Raid when those wasps nest near your house.

So bugs = human babies?

Insects/Arachnids = Lifeform
Embryo = Sentient Lifeform


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Since when are embryos sentient? :confused:
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Tell you what, you worry about yourself and stop carring about what the rest of us do mmmkay?

It's really none of your business.

Put perfectly.
Sweet. I'm gonna go murder 5 people (whom have no friends or close family)... don't worry about them, though, (or me) its none of your business.

This issue is not black/white, zealot. You are a simpleton if you believe that this issue is simplistic as you state.

Although it saddens me to see babies getting aborted especially in later stages, the choice is the mother's alone. It's a choice made between the mother, the doctor, and God/Allah/Buddah (if she is religious).

It isn't the mothers choice. How can any sane person say that it's up to her if she wants to kill a child? She already made her choice.

She decided to risk pregnancy, which has consequences and responsibilities. If she doesn't want those responsibilities then she should abstain from sexual relations or make damn sure that there are two methods of birth control being used. Abortion used as birth control is just sickening.
 

0roo0roo

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he who has not murdered millions of partial people through masturbation can throw the first stone;)
 

Phlargo

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It's much funnier to hear people react to the risk of having a controversial discussion topic than the actual discussion of the issue.

Abortion is good because people don't want their babies. You shouldn't abort your child if you want it. You should either abort it (at the right time) or go through with the pregnancy to put it up for adoption. If you are sentimental about your child, you obviously belong to the former category.

Why is this so tricky?
 

SLCentral

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Tell you what, you worry about yourself and stop carring about what the rest of us do mmmkay?

It's really none of your business.

Put perfectly.
Sweet. I'm gonna go murder 5 people (whom have no friends or close family)... don't worry about them, though, (or me) its none of your business.

This issue is not black/white, zealot. You are a simpleton if you believe that this issue is simplistic as you state.

Although it saddens me to see babies getting aborted especially in later stages, the choice is the mother's alone. It's a choice made between the mother, the doctor, and God/Allah/Buddah (if she is religious).

It isn't the mothers choice. How can any sane person say that it's up to her if she wants to kill a child? She already made her choice.

She decided to risk pregnancy, which has consequences and responsibilities. If she doesn't want those responsibilities then she should abstain from sexual relations or make damn sure that there are two methods of birth control being used. Abortion used as birth control is just sickening.

Well obviously it's sickening, but so are many things that are legal in this world. It is still the mothers body, and while you may find it sickening, it isn't your right to judge. I don't agree with using abortion as a birth control, but I don't agree with a lot of things.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: SLCentral
Originally posted by: OdiN
Abortion = Muder

Plain and simple. As said, there are only a few cases in which I can understand why - a pregnancy that threatens the life of the mother, etc.

Think of it this way. A mother who is say 2 months pregnant is mugged and stabbed, which causes her unborn child to die. Would you want the mugger charged with assault with a deadly weapon, or murder?

The embryo is not living on it's own; it requires the mothers support in order to survive. Therefore, the MOTHER has control as to what she wants to do with the baby. Therefore, no, it is not murder. It's her body.

That's bullshit.

Next time you require medical assitance in order to survive...maybe you shoouldn't get any.

The mother made her decision already. She decided to have sex and risk getting pregnant. That is the choice the mother has. Not a choice to kill her child or not.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: amicold
Originally posted by: TBone48
Originally posted by: amicold


Because I'm sure most women are having the abortions before the baby forms to the point you're at. Regardless, there's a lot of beautiful things in life. Some find insects beautiful but that doesn't stop you from stepping on ants, spiders, etc. Or grabbing the can of Raid when those wasps nest near your house.

So bugs = human babies?

Insects/Arachnids = Lifeform
Embryo = Sentient Lifeform


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Since when are embryos sentient? :confused:

Last time I checked, they are humans. Humans are sentient.
 

Dacalo

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Tell you what, you worry about yourself and stop carring about what the rest of us do mmmkay?

It's really none of your business.

Put perfectly.
Sweet. I'm gonna go murder 5 people (whom have no friends or close family)... don't worry about them, though, (or me) its none of your business.

This issue is not black/white, zealot. You are a simpleton if you believe that this issue is simplistic as you state.

Although it saddens me to see babies getting aborted especially in later stages, the choice is the mother's alone. It's a choice made between the mother, the doctor, and God/Allah/Buddah (if she is religious).

It isn't the mothers choice. How can any sane person say that it's up to her if she wants to kill a child? She already made her choice.

She decided to risk pregnancy, which has consequences and responsibilities. If she doesn't want those responsibilities then she should abstain from sexual relations or make damn sure that there are two methods of birth control being used. Abortion used as birth control is just sickening.

Well, what you say are choices made by a person. If I take an extreme stance, why not make sex illegal unless you are given a license from the gov't?