Abercrombie & Fitch sued after firing muslim lady

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jackstar7

Lifer
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A buyer has rights, a right to tell the seller "I don't want your jihadi shit in my place of business, it's costing me money".

Then you were pretty fucking stupid to hire me, no? Good luck with your business, clownboy.

Is what I'm sure the person being fired would say.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Psst. Your bigotry is showing, again.
You should really get that taken care of, its rather ugly.
If I were you boss I would fire you for letting it hang out like that.

blah, blah, blah, bigot, blah.

You don't know how the real world works. Damned fucking, dirty, dirty liberals.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Let's be honest, people here claiming companies have the right to change their policy, it A&F told employees who wear crosses to remove them, it would be...


blah...blah...religious freedom...blah

blah...blah...A&F are atheists...blah
 

classy

Lifer
Oct 12, 1999
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were you there? How do you know what she was told?? What she wore is way more than a scarf...

Did you read the article? Or were you sorting out the star wars up your rear? She wore the thing to the interview and wore the thing several months after.
 

CrackRabbit

Lifer
Mar 30, 2001
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blah, blah, blah, bigot, blah.

You don't know how the real world works. Damned fucking, dirty, dirty liberals.

I know plenty on how the real world works, you seem to be be the one that has a very loose grasp on reality.
I'm also not the one calling some random woman a jihadi simply because she feels like observing her religious beliefs.

This ends with this post. I don't feel like getting another infraction arguing with an idiot.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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If the company is forced to keep her, she'll probably be the last person with a headcovering that they'll ever hire.

They won't be forced to keep her. They'll settle for an amount that's well below the cost of having a potential terrorist working in their store, and the damage to their name and image that that could do.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Let's be honest, people here claiming companies have the right to change their policy, it A&F told employees who wear crosses to remove them, it would be...


blah...blah...religious freedom...blah

blah...blah...A&F are atheists...blah

Not from me it wouldn't be.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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You don't know how the real world works.
That's pretty funny coming from a guy that recently started a thread ranting about the rise in energy costs being the fault of Obama, only to be shown that the increases are due to legislation passed years before he was in office. I bet we could have a good ol' time recounting the number of threads you've been factually refuted if anyone took the time to do the searches.

In fact, I'm relatively certain you're a theist, so I don't think you have much in the way of authority about how the world works at all.

But you do talk tough. I guess you like feeling like you swing some big e-balls. When you really think about it, that's pretty pathetic, too.
 

QuantumPion

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Jun 27, 2005
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1). Get hired somewhere.
2). Convert to Islam.
3). Screw off doing whatever you want to do for the rest of your life, knowing that you can never be fired.
 

Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
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A&F's policy should have been: We don't give a crap about what religion you are, but if you are unable to meet $DRESSCODE, then you are not able to work here. For example, I just can't see a Muslim woman wearing the hijab ever working at Hooters.
 

IGBT

Lifer
Jul 16, 2001
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yet another example that it's not a religion but a way of life that dictates (liberals like this) all aspects of life including garb and finance.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Jan 24, 2004
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OP is oversimplifying the state of the law on this issue. And regardless of the state of the law, businesses shouldn't have to be constrained by anyone's retarded arbitrary religious beliefs and practices.

LAND OF THE FREE*!

*(except when not christian and in the way of business)
 

halik

Lifer
Oct 10, 2000
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If that happened she would probably be stoned.

Hmm I think that's more of a record store thing than A&F
images
 

Oric

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Oct 11, 1999
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If the worker was male, he would not be instantly noticable and would probably not be accused against a " dress code" and not be fired, but a female muslim worker gets attention and is fired. I read a lot of criticism in the west about Muslim socities segregating against women's rights (some of which I agree with), but here you practice what you criticise and help the segregation of female muslims by denying them equal work opportunities. Can anyone explain that ?
 

OCGuy

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If the worker was male, he would not be instantly noticable and would probably not be accused against a " dress code" and not be fired, but a female muslim worker gets attention and is fired. I read a lot of criticism in the west about Muslim socities segregating against women's rights (some of which I agree with), but here you practice what you criticise and help the segregation of female muslims by denying them equal work opportunities. Can anyone explain that ?

What? That is some circular logic there if I have ever seen it...
 

piasabird

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Any company can have a policy on acceptable attire. People get sent home all the time because they are wearing party attire or attire that is not suitable for a business environmnet. I have even seen the statement your attire does not match our corporate image. This has nothing to do with religion.
 

Beev

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Forgive me if this was already posted, but they fired her for the scarf, not her religion. If they're "the same thing" then what if my religion happened to always wear cutoff shorts? If I wear it to A&F and they fire me I can sue for religious discrimination? Hell, Jedi is an official religion, if they don't let me wear my robe can I sue?

This is stupid. She deserved to be fired because the company has a certain style, they don't give two shits that she's Muslim.
 

CrackRabbit

Lifer
Mar 30, 2001
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Forgive me if this was already posted, but they fired her for the scarf, not her religion. If they're "the same thing" then what if my religion happened to always wear cutoff shorts? If I wear it to A&F and they fire me I can sue for religious discrimination? Hell, Jedi is an official religion, if they don't let me wear my robe can I sue?

This is stupid. She deserved to be fired because the company has a certain style, they don't give two shits that she's Muslim.

If you interviewed with your Jedi robe on, and then asked to be allowed to wear it at work and were given permission to work in it as long as your robe matched company colors, then you were fired for wearing the robe that you were told you could wear. Then yes you could sue them.

Fail at reading the article you do, yeeesss!
 

Imp

Lifer
Feb 8, 2000
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Shouldn't have hired her in the first place. Did they think she would take it off later?
 

woolfe9999

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Any company can have a policy on acceptable attire. People get sent home all the time because they are wearing party attire or attire that is not suitable for a business environmnet. I have even seen the statement your attire does not match our corporate image. This has nothing to do with religion.

This is correct. However, the issue here is whether she was terminated solely for reasons of a dress code, or for reasons having to do with her religion. The company says it was dress code but that is always what the company says. It's for a jury to decide based on all the evidence submitted.
 

Ackmed

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Oct 1, 2003
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How do the human resources people get those jobs? Dont they know they can not fire someone based on their religious beliefs?

Do posters not know the whole story? Do they just make up stuff and slant a story their way?
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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She should be fired. How would you feel if it was a full burka?

...

Why would I care what someone in the stock room wears?

Mind you I couldn't give a shit what someone on the tills wears either, I just want to give them my money, get my shit and leave as quickly as possible. Why should I care about what they wear on their head?
 

D-Man

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I was told once by HR you cannot fire him for that find another reason.

They should have made a compromise and put her in the scarf and shawl department.