Abercrombie & Fitch sued after firing muslim lady

[Infohawk]

That said, I think if a girl had been fired for refusing to remove a Christian cross around her neck, a lot of the same people defending the company in this case would be at its doors with torches and pitchforks.

So what? Does that make it ok?

 

[classy]

Religious expression / freedom of religion overrides company rules.

The company hired her with a headscarf, it did not interfere with her job duties, there was no reason to fire her.

She was probably fired because she is muslim, and anger with the muslim community runs deep in the USA.

In truth we all know thats all it was. Call a spade a spade. People she worked with, higher ups, didn't want a muslim working there. As we use to say back in the day, we know what time is.

 

[spidey07]

Honestly what point are you trying to make here?

If one is selling something (in sales) and one doesn't use what one is selling while on the clock one typically gets fired. It's like the hooters thing, their image, and she wasn't portraying the image of the clothing they sell.

 

[Infohawk]

In truth we all know thats all it was. Call a spade a spade. People she worked with, higher ups, didn't want a muslim working there. As we use to say back in the day, we know what time is.

Evidence? You don't have any.

 

[Texashiker]

Evidence? You don't have any.

Evidence? How about common sense?

Anyone in management should have know what was going to happen if the lady was fired.

Anyone that has went through the public school system in the USA should know about fair labor laws.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

So what? Does that make it ok?

Does that make what ok?

 

[Infohawk]

Evidence? How about common sense?

Anyone in management should have know what was going to happen if the lady was fired.

Anyone that has went through the public school system in the USA should know about fair labor laws.

Speculative garbage. Don't feel the need to try again.

 

[OCGuy]

She should be fired. How would you feel if it was a full burka?

Your religious freedom stops when you are on my clock. Just like if you start talking politics with my customers (which is technically a constitutional right), I can fire you if you refuse to stop. Just like if you have a weapon (which is a constitutional right), I can fire you if you refuse to stop carrying it.

 

[Texashiker]

Speculative garbage.

I guess you slept through high school government class?

I dont guess you have ever held a job?

Do you really expect mommy and daddy to take care of you for the rest of their lives?

 

[zinfamous]

I thought A&F policy was about wearing no clothes whatsoever?

 

[waggy]

since they hired her knowing she wore it they shouldn't and can't fire her for it now. They are in the wrong and the lawsuit is justified.

now in the future i just wouldn't hire anyone with one..

 

[classy]

If one is selling something (in sales) and one doesn't use what one is selling while on the clock one typically gets fired. It's like the hooters thing, their image, and she wasn't portraying the image of the clothing they sell.

She worked in the stockroom. And was told it was fine for her to wear it, as long as it was company colors.

Here is the woman with her head scarf.

Apparently, it was a district manager who objected. Hmm,I wonder why?

There ain't nothing wrong with her get up.
If this was a face covering I would agree she should be fired. Those things should be outlawed anyway.

 

[woolfe9999]

We don't know all the evidence. It turns on intent. If she was fired for clothing alone, having nothing to do with religion, then there is no liability. Since the company will automatically say it had nothing to do with religion, it comes down to circumstantial evidence. My bet is the key issue will be, when exactly was the policy put in place. If it looks like the policy was suddenly crafted with her in mind, then yes, they should probably settle it.

 

[classy]

http://www.mercurynews.com/san-mateo-county/
I posted a link where you can access the video. Lot more info in the 2 minute clip. The direct link doesn't work for me.
It was the EEOC who filed on her behalf. Long story short, if the EEOC files on a persons behalf, no doubt the company has more than likely done something wrong.

 

[woolfe9999]

Holy crap I live less than a mile away from that store. I had no idea this was the store in San Mateo.

 

[Nebor]

Work in the stock room eh? Maybe acceptable then. Otherwise, A&F has strict rules about what their employees wear, and the look that they present.

 

[BansheeX]

My religious beliefs tell me I must be naked and wear a banana hat. If you fire me for it, I'm suing you.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Yep. Not seeing a problem here. If I wore a ball cap to work and didn't remove it I would be fired if repeated offenses.

If your ball cap was part of your religion, and your religion said you must wear a ball cap it all times you would scream bloody murder if your employer fired you for wearing your ball cap.

 

[glenn1]

If she got hired wearing her head scarf, then she should be allowed to continue to wear her head scarf. In the article it said she was wearing a hijab. If true I don't see why that should be an issue.

If the company is forced to keep her, she'll probably be the last person with a headcovering that they'll ever hire.

 

[SandEagle]

A&F should create their own brand of hijab.

 

[spidey07]

If your ball cap was part of your religion, and your religion said you must wear a ball cap it all times you would scream bloody murder if your employer fired you for wearing your ball cap.

I absolutely would not. Employers are free to hire, fire at will in my mind. It's nothing more than a business transaction to me. Money in exchange for service, I don't care about how I should dress for said exchange. Money talks.

If I disagreed with them telling me "no ball caps" I would find another job. Personal responsibility.

It's been a while since I wore a suit to work everyday, but if they're paying me to do so then that is what I will do.

 

[JEDIYoda]

But she was hired and told it would be okay for her to wear her scarf.

were you there? How do you know what she was told?? What she wore is way more than a scarf...

 

[CrackRabbit]

I absolutely would not. Employers are free to hire, fire at will in my mind. It's nothing more than a business transaction to me. Money in exchange for service, I don't care about how I should dress for said exchange. Money talks.

If I disagreed with them telling me "no ball caps" I would find another job. Personal responsibility.

It's been a while since I wore a suit to work everyday, but if they're paying me to do so then that is what I will do.

Somehow, I doubt that.

 

[spidey07]

Somehow, I doubt that.

Somehow you have no idea what I do to make my money. And image is everything in selling my product, which is me. And before the whore comments come out - when I walk into a room, you WILL listen to me. That's what you're paying me for, to listen to me. But it's best to put on good first impressions which is where the suit comes in.

But if I walk onto a client site and offend them via my dress (which is what our little jihadi did), am told to knock it off, and still did it. Guess what, they won't want to pay for my services anymore.

A buyer has rights, a right to tell the seller "I don't want your jihadi shit in my place of business, it's costing me money".

 

[CrackRabbit]

Somehow you have no idea what I do to make my money. And image is everything in selling my product, which is me. And before the whore comments come out - when I walk into a room, you WILL listen to me. That's what you're paying me for, to listen to me. But it's best to put on good first impressions which is where the suit comes in.

But if I walk onto a client site and offend them via my dress (which is what our little jihadi did), am told to knock it off, and still did it. Guess what, they won't want to pay for my services anymore.

A buyer has rights, a right to tell the seller "I don't want your jihadi shit in my place of business, it's costing me money".

Psst. Your bigotry is showing, again.
You should really get that taken care of, its rather ugly.
If I were you boss I would fire you for letting it hang out like that.