A8-6410? Heads up: it's Beema, not Richland

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redrumy3

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Some info from aida64
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monstercameron

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those scores seem kinda low compared to the previous a6-5200 [benchmarks], especially since the clocks are higher, what is your memory speed? and did you notice the clock speeds during any tests?
 
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The name upgrade seems justified in this case. AMD does emphasize that it sell APUs, not CPUs alone, so a name upgrade based on iGPU upgrade is legitimate.
 
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redrumy3 said:
Hey guys sorry for late replys I just got back from work. I will post more info soon once I eat and stuff :p

passmark results.

www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/display.php?id=25110007759
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Thanks!! Looks like the statement re. A8-6410 made in MobileEdge's review of the HP 15-g012dx ("offers more power than A8-4500M accelerated processor") is accurate (A8-6410 at CPU mark of 2720 vs. A8-4500M at CPU mark of 2688).
 
TeknoBug

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Yeah I think the DDR3 (my A4-5000 runs on single-channel even with 2x DDR3 1600 sticks) is the culprit here.
 
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Enigmoid

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shady28 said:
For comparison, here is how the 512MB 6770M in my 2011 iMac scores. Probably worth noting that Apple used DDR5 and higher clocks on their 6770M, so these are 20-30% faster than what you would see with a normal 6770M in a 2011/2012 laptop.

http://www.3dmark.com/is/2064917
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Ice storm on desktop GPUs (or higher end mobile) is pretty useless, often CPU limited. Try cloudgate.
 
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redrumy3 said:
Hey guys sorry for late replys I just got back from work. I will post more info soon once I eat and stuff :p

passmark results.

www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/display.php?id=25110007759

updated drivers so i ran 3dmark again

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/3266166
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Just for comparrison, my Llano laptop with a bit of an overclock of 1650MHz/2867MHz (now at 1750MHz/2800MHz) with a 320 VLIW5 core GPU @ 400MHz and dual channel 1333MHz ram scored 35561 in Ice Storm. The APU I have is rated with a 35 watt TDP. So it seems like AMD has made some progress, that is a pretty comparable score you got with an APU rated at 15 watts, partly thanks to the more efficient 128 GCN cores, and of course a more advanced manufacturing process. And my guess is Beema only has a single channel memory controller?
 
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SlowSpyder said:
And my guess is Beema only has a single channel memory controller?
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Yes, Beema like Kabini has just single channel MC.
With dual channel A8-6410/A6-6310 should have a better/higher result in Ice Storm than Llano in your laptop.
 
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Hi everyone. I have been stalking this thread and just joined so I can comment. I too bought this laptop... it's not my main pc but I just needed a basic laptop to work from home a day or two a week. My experience so far...

When I first got it I downloaded a quick demo, grid 2, to check out how it did (rarely game on pc's but just curious). The damn thing could barely get through the menu and when I tried playing on ultra low, there was still a huge amount of lag and it wasn't smooth by any means. I knew it was a low end laptop/graphics but damn. I also noticed when I would check out task manager and performance, the cpu was hovering around 1.0 ghz, occasionally dipping below 1 and hanging around 0.90 ghz -- plugged in, not battery, and thought this was odd.

I was about to return the laptop but saw the other post about the 3dmark so I ran that test and got 16,000 - no where close to the other poster. Jumped on hp's website and saw there was a bios update so I updated my bios and tested again -- jumped up to 32,000. Much better. Ran grid 2 again, and can play perfectly without a hiccup on medium settings (the auto setting didn't try anything higher). Obviously this game isn't the most demanding one out there but its newer and wanted to compare to the first test. also, after my bios update my processor now hovers around 2.0 ghz and bumps up to 2.4 which its suppose to.

I also installed the beta drivers from amd's website and my score went higher.. 33,500. I don't know a lot about this 3dmark stuff since it's new to me but at least it went up and it's a heck of a lot better than 16,000!

Sorry for the long post but wanted to let everyone know my experience. Here is the link from my most recent test:
http://www.3dmark.com/is/2066989
 
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SlowSpyder said:
Just for comparrison, my Llano laptop with a bit of an overclock of 1650MHz/2867MHz (now at 1750MHz/2800MHz) with a 320 VLIW5 core GPU @ 400MHz and dual channel 1333MHz ram scored 35561 in Ice Storm. The APU I have is rated with a 35 watt TDP. So it seems like AMD has made some progress, that is a pretty comparable score you got with an APU rated at 15 watts, partly thanks to the more efficient 128 GCN cores, and of course a more advanced manufacturing process. And my guess is Beema only has a single channel memory controller?
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Llano just really sucks at 3dmark. My guess is that AMD never released optimized drivers.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6726/3dmark-for-windows-launches-we-test-it-with-various-laptops/2

The other thing to be aware of is graphics vs overall score.

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HD 4000 does ridiculously well so comparisons to intels igps are difficult.
 
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jbs102 said:
Hi everyone. I have been stalking this thread and just joined so I can comment. I too bought this laptop... it's not my main pc but I just needed a basic laptop to work from home a day or two a week. My experience so far...

When I first got it I downloaded a quick demo, grid 2, to check out how it did (rarely game on pc's but just curious). The damn thing could barely get through the menu and when I tried playing on ultra low, there was still a huge amount of lag and it wasn't smooth by any means. I knew it was a low end laptop/graphics but damn. I also noticed when I would check out task manager and performance, the cpu was hovering around 1.0 ghz, occasionally dipping below 1 and hanging around 0.90 ghz -- plugged in, not battery, and thought this was odd.

I was about to return the laptop but saw the other post about the 3dmark so I ran that test and got 16,000 - no where close to the other poster. Jumped on hp's website and saw there was a bios update so I updated my bios and tested again -- jumped up to 32,000. Much better. Ran grid 2 again, and can play perfectly without a hiccup on medium settings (the auto setting didn't try anything higher). Obviously this game isn't the most demanding one out there but its newer and wanted to compare to the first test. also, after my bios update my processor now hovers around 2.0 ghz and bumps up to 2.4 which its suppose to.

I also installed the beta drivers from amd's website and my score went higher.. 33,500. I don't know a lot about this 3dmark stuff since it's new to me but at least it went up and it's a heck of a lot better than 16,000!

Sorry for the long post but wanted to let everyone know my experience. Here is the link from my most recent test:
http://www.3dmark.com/is/2066989
Click to expand...

good stuff man, vigilance pays off!
 
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Enigmoid said:
Llano just really sucks at 3dmark. My guess is that AMD never released optimized drivers.
HD 4000 does ridiculously well so comparisons to intels igps are difficult.
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That's surprising, that the HD4000 would do so well in comparison with Llano's IGP. Clearly, it does seem like a driver issue. Perhaps Intel special-cases 3DMark in their drivers and has an optimized path for it, and AMD never bothered for Llano?
 
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I too just updated my bios to F16 it was on F12 I think and installed beta drivers as well. Laptop really aint bad for the price. It's doing great for what I needed it for.
 
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Earlier when you updated drivers before running 3dmark for the second time... What exactly did you update? The bios or you just recently did the bios? Curious if I'm missing other driver updates...
 
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jbs102 said:
Earlier when you updated drivers before running 3dmark for the second time... What exactly did you update? The bios or you just recently did the bios? Curious if I'm missing other driver updates...
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2nd run I did was just with updated drivers I haven't tried running it again with updated bios.
 
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Battery life is pretty good, not amazing but not ridiculously short either. I'll do some testing to get some numbers over the next few days. What I am curious about is... Can I overclock this apu? I have an A6 3420m in another laptop that I use Fusion Tweaker and K10Stat to manage but neither seem to work with the A8 6410.
 
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