A7N8X & XP2000+ running to fast in 98se?????help!!

[goggles]

I just upgraded from Athlon 650 & Asus K7M to a Athlon 2000+ & Asus A7N8X Dlx. I installed win98SE and I now find all multimedia apps are running (or seems like it) too fast. When I play any music it plays a second then skips ahead a couple seconds, plays a second, skips, etc. It will also do this when running a .mpg file also, skips. I tried playing Unreal and the game play seems smooth enough but the sound again is jittery and skips. I have not tried anything else in 98.

I then installed WinXP Pro on a different partition and I now have a dual boot system. Everything seems to run fine under XP with no skips or jumps. The reason for dual boot is some games don't play in XP.

I have another annoying problem, it seems when it comes time to install certain service packs (win XP SP1 or win98SE SP1) it takes a loooooong time. For the 98 SP1 it took over 3 hrs to install!!

As far as the whole puter goes it seems to be runing fine except for those few glitches. Can someone help with the 98SE problem??

I hope I have given enough info.

Thanks.

A7N8X dlx - bios 1002
1 x Samsung 256 DDR 2700
Athlon 2000+ - not overclocked
Asus Gforce 3 Ti200 - asus driver 3.1.4.0
Sparkle 300wt power
onboard sound, lan (love the digital output and sound)

 

[RSMemphis]

Did you reinstall Win98? Or if not, did you delete all the mobo drivers in the safe mode before?

If not, then that's probably the reason.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Do you have the chipset drivers installed for your mobo, is it a VIA chipset? if so install the all in ones.

 

[goggles]

Sorry guys, should have given even more info.
Both operating systems were installed from a freshly formatted HD.
As far as the mobo drivers go, I went to Asus's website and downloaded the latest nForce2 drivers for 98 and XP.

 

[RSMemphis]

I am stumped...

Bump for ya.

 

[goggles]

I've reinstalled 98 3 times since Monday and I am clueless at this time.
Perhaps some memory timings, bios settings......I don't have a clue....kinda reaching I know.

I hope someone can help.

 

[BD231]

Last I heard n-force has problems with 9x based opperating systems, uninstall the drivers you got from asus if you can, then try and boot up (check for the skipping and whatnot). If the Asus drivers ask you to install special IDE enhancement drivers click no next time around. Not sure there is any fix other than WindowsXP/2000.

 

[BigFatCow]

it could be your sound card drivers...

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Do you have the chipset drivers installed for your mobo, is it a VIA chipset? if so install the all in ones.

Dude, you're out of your element. (Get it? Dude?)

That movie rocks. I've watched it more times than... well... anyone.

 

[goggles]

Sound card drivers....hmmm....here's a question:
Could I install my old sound card (MX300, amp has digital and analog inputs), uninstall nforce sound drivers in 98 and install MX300 drivers? Would I be able to disable the sounds card for XP? If this turns out to be the problem that is.

 

[Whitedog]

You can disable the NForce2 Sound through the bios as well as the OS. It truely sounds like a driver issue to me.

NVidia probably figures anyone owning an NX D'lux isn't going to run such an old OS such as 9x? Well, they probably Don't see it that way, but hey, just my .02

If you have an old sound card, disable the onboard and try it. A lot easier than reinstalling the OS over and over.

 

[mechBgon]

Does Windows Device Manager show any problem devices in Win98SE?

 

[splice]

You should think about upgrading to Win2k or XP. DOS7 isn't exactly the best OS platform, esp. with newer hardware like the nforce.

 

[goggles]

>>Splice,
I DO have Xp Pro. Like the original post says, I have them set up for a dual boot so I can play games that don't like XP...(ie: Unreal, Return to castle Wolfenstein, etc.) This way if something doesn't work in XP I can always try it in 98.

>>I'll have to check the device manager but from what I can remember it didn't show anything out of the ordinary.

>>Whitedog,
If I disable the onboard sound in the bios then I can't use it in XP so I'll try disabling each in the respective OS's. I think you're right about it being a driver issue...I hope.

All in all after playing with this set up for a couple of worry free hours, I can honestly say I'm not overy impressed. I thought it would be much faster and problem free. It still seems to want to run a little slower than I wanted, for instance, when going into windows explorer it takes aloooong time to power up my cdrom and display the contents.

Back to the win 98 problem, I've also noted it takes 75 seconds to get it to the desktop. Would a driver problem do this?

Thanks.

 

[mechBgon]

Regarding boot time, disable unused NICs in the BIOS. Also, you didn't say what hard drive you've got or whether it's brand new, but that could shed some light as well.

 

[goggles]

ooooops, you're right;

Primary = Maxtor 60gb ata133 (about 6 weeks old)
secondary = IBM 30gb 60gxp ata100 (about 3yrs old)
3com lan is disabled.

Only 98 boots slow, XP is fast.

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Do you have the chipset drivers installed for your mobo, is it a VIA chipset? if so install the all in ones.

A7N is nForce, not KT whatever chipset.

 

[nutxo]

bah, xp sucks a**, its big smelly turd that M$ has somehow convinced the world is a tasty hershey bar!

9x kicks the crap out of it for games

I just got my a7n8x today, when my cpu gets here if i find out 98se doent work ill go back to my a7v8x till the kt400a mobos come out !!

 

[mechBgon]

Just out of curiosity, check in the BIOS and see what your parallel port is set for. If it isn't set for "ECP", try that or disable it altogether.

 

[Cuular]

Nutxo says:

bah, xp sucks a**, its big smelly turd that M$ has somehow convinced the world is a tasty hershey bar!

9x kicks the crap out of it for games

I just got my a7n8x today, when my cpu gets here if i find out 98se doent work ill go back to my a7v8x till the kt400a mobos come out !!

Dude get with the times. When was the last time you looked at anandtech's or firingsquads OS comparisons for gaming. XP is as fast and in most cases faster then 9X now a days, and in most cases more reliable.

Before you spout untrue information research the topic. Especially if it's been a few months since you last checked.

And for the record, unreal and RTCW both work perfectly well on Windows XP. So the original poster may want to check that out, and just blow off his 98se install to reclaim the diskspace.

 

[goggles]

.....you've got my interest now. How do I make them run in Xp pro?
I've figured out how to make Unreal Tournament work, but I could never get the others to work.
I appreciate your knowledge.

 

[goggles]

>>Cuular,

Could you please tell me how to get Unreal and RTCW to work in XP Pro. I tried changing the compatability mode but that didn't help.

Thanks.

 

[IanthePez]

they both run for me right out of the box....

does it give you an error or what?

 

[tdawg]

RTCW and Unreal (the demo, at least) runs perfectly out of the box under XP pro for me as well.

 

[Insane3D]

IIRC, after you install Win98SE, you need to go into the device manager and check the "DMA" box to enable UDMA HD access. This would cause everything to run very slow including boot up and loading any large files like service packs. It will also cause your sound to skip quite bad.

Start---> Settings---> Control Panel--> System---> Device Manger---> Disk Drives ---> Generic IDE Disk---> Settings---> Check the DMA box---> Apply and Reboot.