Smoke
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I didn't mention my CPU Cooler ... I'm using a Thermaltake Volcano 7+.
There are better coolers but that does not seem to be what's holding me back. Others have been able to do a little better. Maybe if I add another stick of memory and run Dual Channel I could squeeze a little more out of it but it really wouldn't be worth the money.
Capt'n Rick #1 is still the champ. He's now running one of the good OCing 2100+ XP chips and getting about 100 MHz more than I can manage. :Q
There are better coolers but that does not seem to be what's holding me back. Others have been able to do a little better. Maybe if I add another stick of memory and run Dual Channel I could squeeze a little more out of it but it really wouldn't be worth the money.
Capt'n Rick #1 is still the champ. He's now running one of the good OCing 2100+ XP chips and getting about 100 MHz more than I can manage. :Q
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Smokeball
That's a damn fast rig you've got there
I can't get anyway near 200MHz (wasn't expecting too with DDR333),well not unless I run CAS3 timings which I don't want too.
Wiz
and now IE is frelled
Lol ,my 1st sighting of Farscape swearing (I wonder if they'll ever be able to get that going again?)
Btw folks ,I haven't mentioned it yet but my cpu cooler is no wimp! ,its a Global Win CAK 88T.
For those who don't know its a huge all copper heatsink with a temperature variable case fan bolted to the top of it.
That's a damn fast rig you've got there
I can't get anyway near 200MHz (wasn't expecting too with DDR333),well not unless I run CAS3 timings which I don't want too.
Wiz
and now IE is frelled
Lol ,my 1st sighting of Farscape swearing
(I wonder if they'll ever be able to get that going again?)Btw folks ,I haven't mentioned it yet but my cpu cooler is no wimp! ,its a Global Win CAK 88T.
For those who don't know its a huge all copper heatsink with a temperature variable case fan bolted to the top of it
.I also just discovered that I was running my board with 2 sticks of DDR in single channel mode. DOH! I will fix this once I flash my bios. I had a very wierd issue pop up on me. When I went t the bios to see what the voltage was for my ram, it no longer showed the default 1.70 1.80 1.90, it showed 2.50 2.66 and 2.87 WTF? So I yanked my good corsair ram and stuck in a piece of crucial that I had in the garage. Man this board is great but has been lots of darn work so far. I almost miss my beloved 8K3A+.
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Err vdimm is supposed to be from 2.5-2.8v
Re HSF ,yeah its an adapater to be able to fix the big fan on
Re dual channel ,that explains some of the performance anomolie
Re HSF ,yeah its an adapater to be able to fix the big fan on
Re dual channel ,that explains some of the performance anomolie
Well I have the chipset coolers in place, I put the little copper HS on the southbridge cuz it looked to be the right size.
Then when I touched that sucker while running I found it very hot. I ripped it off and put the bigger one on there, then I put in another 80mm fan, this one blows right across the mb diagonally so it passes air over both the south&northbridges.
I started up at 11.5 X 180 and ran prime for a while but got errors.
Now at 11 x 180 and it's running prime95. I've never kept stability at 180 before so we shall see.
One thing, if someone wants a chipset cooler let me just say the attachment mechanism on the pcToys Icechip kit leaves a lot to be desired.
I ended up tossing the little plastic quick connects in the trash and used a couple case screws instead.
The outstanding thing is the way my tems are much lower now. Before I had a mobo temp of about 38C and a cpu temp of about 49C
Now my mobo is sitting at 27C and cpu running prime95 is 43C
It seems to be stable running prime95, I will let it go a while more and run some tests with all my hardware. One thing that would go out before even when everything else was stable was the audio on my tv tuner card. It would just stop after 10 - 20 minutes of use unless I lowered the fsb 1 or 2 mhz. So I feel like it's the canary in the mineshaft for this system, when it goes out I know I'm pushing just a little too hard.
BTW, I really enjoyed the weekly feast presented by the sci-fi channel here when they paired Farscape and Stargate. I truly wish they would have continued. At least there should be more Stargate's to look forward to.
Then when I touched that sucker while running I found it very hot. I ripped it off and put the bigger one on there, then I put in another 80mm fan, this one blows right across the mb diagonally so it passes air over both the south&northbridges.
I started up at 11.5 X 180 and ran prime for a while but got errors.
Now at 11 x 180 and it's running prime95. I've never kept stability at 180 before so we shall see.
One thing, if someone wants a chipset cooler let me just say the attachment mechanism on the pcToys Icechip kit leaves a lot to be desired.
I ended up tossing the little plastic quick connects in the trash and used a couple case screws instead.
The outstanding thing is the way my tems are much lower now. Before I had a mobo temp of about 38C and a cpu temp of about 49C
Now my mobo is sitting at 27C and cpu running prime95 is 43C
It seems to be stable running prime95, I will let it go a while more and run some tests with all my hardware. One thing that would go out before even when everything else was stable was the audio on my tv tuner card. It would just stop after 10 - 20 minutes of use unless I lowered the fsb 1 or 2 mhz. So I feel like it's the canary in the mineshaft for this system, when it goes out I know I'm pushing just a little too hard.
BTW, I really enjoyed the weekly feast presented by the sci-fi channel here when they paired Farscape and Stargate. I truly wish they would have continued
. At least there should be more Stargate's to look forward to.
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There is? ,cool
Btw re temps ,mine hover around 25-28C case temps ,49-52C cpu (though that went up recently when I R&R'd the HSF ,maybe I put too much paste on?)
Which bridge was very hot btw?
What I don't get is why cpu temps should come down by much when cooling the chipset!
Btw re temps ,mine hover around 25-28C case temps ,49-52C cpu (though that went up recently when I R&R'd the HSF ,maybe I put too much paste on?)
Which bridge was very hot btw?
What I don't get is why cpu temps should come down by much when cooling the chipset!
That small southbridge gets hot on mine. Much better with the large copper HS on it and a little air blowing past it.
I think the cpu runs cooler due to less stress on the chipset. lower temp means it will pull & waste less current, somehow that translates to lower cpu temp as well.
I'm also running a Thermaltake Volcano 7+ here, nice HSF and it's a lot quiter than my old Alpha that had the 7200rpm fan on it.
I think the cpu runs cooler due to less stress on the chipset. lower temp means it will pull & waste less current, somehow that translates to lower cpu temp as well.
I'm also running a Thermaltake Volcano 7+ here, nice HSF and it's a lot quiter than my old Alpha that had the 7200rpm fan on it.
Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Err vdimm is supposed to be from 2.5-2.8v
Ooops typo....But here are what my vdimm options are 2.50 2.63 2.77 2.90.....What is up with that? I am going to flash the bios right now and if it goes back to normal, put the ram in the right way this time!
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Originally posted by: MoFunk
Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Err vdimm is supposed to be from 2.5-2.8v
Ooops typo....But here are what my vdimm options are 2.50 2.63 2.77 2.90.....What is up with that? I am going to flash the bios right now and if it goes back to normal, put the ram in the right way this time!
Those are the same options i've got on my 8RDA+
I'm currently seeing how high I can push my 1 stick of Samsung 512mb PC2700 in this board, it is OK at 190 6-2-2-2.5, but doesn't like anything faster. So, i've come back down from 210 FSB with RAM @ 83% of that, to running in sync. Also got multi @ 11, for 2090Mhz, XP2600+ levels
Fails P95 at this speed after about 10 mins, but it's stable for what I do with it I haven't done any Seti WUs yet, but I may do a day full of WUs, just to see, but that'll hurt my SoB production, though!
Will report back later
Garry
I just tried the 1002A1 Uber bios. It gave me a lot more selections, like higher volts for the ram & vdd & up to +1.9 for the southbridge but I had a boot error afterwards.
I went ahead and flashed up to the current 1003 bios and got past the boot issue and now all seems ok.
I don't seem to be any farther ahead for the experience but at least I didn't corrupt my system again.
Oh, by the way I put the Win XP cd in and booted to it then part way in chose to repair an existing install. Worked like a charm on that corrupted IE problem.
I went ahead and flashed up to the current 1003 bios and got past the boot issue and now all seems ok.
I don't seem to be any farther ahead for the experience but at least I didn't corrupt my system again.
Oh, by the way I put the Win XP cd in and booted to it then part way in chose to repair an existing install. Worked like a charm on that corrupted IE problem.
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Damn ! wish I'd bought Samsung RAM now! amazing RAM speed for DDR333!
Btw if it can't run P95 it isn't stable & it will crash in something else sooner or latter
Mofunk
I don't get it,what's up with those voltage options?
Wiz
Bios 1003 is out?
Any better?
amazing RAM speed for DDR333!Btw if it can't run P95 it isn't stable & it will crash in something else sooner or latter
Mofunk
I don't get it,what's up with those voltage options?
Wiz
Bios 1003 is out?
Any better?
1003 has better support for some usb devices (good for me, I am using 5 of them now)
I think it also increases compatability with more types of ram (maybe this was my trouble?)
I'm sure they fixed some other things.
Uber bios is probably fine and I probably messed something up, I wouldn't judge it by my experience.
Lot's of folks at Nforcehq forums use & like it.
I think it also increases compatability with more types of ram (maybe this was my trouble?)
I'm sure they fixed some other things.
Uber bios is probably fine and I probably messed something up, I wouldn't judge it by my experience.
Lot's of folks at Nforcehq forums use & like it.
hmmm... just looked at my seti times for this morning and was greeted with a bit of a surprise:
2003 Apr 05 08:16am 17.968,16.01 0.422 BLACKY 2:27
2003 Apr 05 05:39am 5.8,13.58 3.874 BLACKY 2:07
2003 Apr 05 03:21am 11.411,16.18 0.421 BLACKY 2:30
....................... Updated bios to 1003 right in here .......................
2003 Apr 04 11:28pm 9.565,11.16 0.43 BLACKY 2:46
2003 Apr 04 07:30pm 10.506,27.84 4.046 BLACKY 2:16
2003 Apr 05 08:16am 17.968,16.01 0.422 BLACKY 2:27
2003 Apr 05 05:39am 5.8,13.58 3.874 BLACKY 2:07
2003 Apr 05 03:21am 11.411,16.18 0.421 BLACKY 2:30
....................... Updated bios to 1003 right in here .......................
2003 Apr 04 11:28pm 9.565,11.16 0.43 BLACKY 2:46
2003 Apr 04 07:30pm 10.506,27.84 4.046 BLACKY 2:16
Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Damn ! wish I'd bought Samsung RAM now!
Btw if it can't run P95 it isn't stable & it will crash in something else sooner or latter
Mofunk
I don't get it,what's up with those voltage options?
Wiz
Bios 1003 is out?
Any better?
Assim
Well now that i look at it, those are just what the 8RDA+ use, took me off guard a bit.
I had a bit of a problem last night. I finally figured out that my ram was not in the right spots for dual, so I put them in, cranked myself back up to 11.5x190 and I corrupted my OS. Had to load from scratch! Man this board is driving me nuts. I am very concerned that I have a bum stick of ram. Because everytime I have the new stick of corsair in I can't load windows. It will get to the point where it is registering components and it just hangs. Take the new stick out and it goes fine. Hmmmm.......
Oh well I now have a ghost image so I wont have toload from scratch again!
It also appears that my Outlook problem is my modem. When I loaded fresh last night I loaded office before I did anything else and I got the same issue and now sometimes when it loads a page it hangs. I have a new modem on the way so when I get it I will know for sure. Wierd that it does not freak out with my wifes e-mail, but she has 2 accounts and I have almost 20! LOL
Do you load your OS while overclocked?
Whenever I do anything potentially time threatening I always reduce fsb & mult to factory specs or below.
When I flash bios I take it down to 11 x 100fsb - just being careful I suppose but you hear the horror stories of badflash and you want to be extra careful
I'm happy to report that a repair operation brought my IE & Outlook back to life
Whenever I do anything potentially time threatening I always reduce fsb & mult to factory specs or below.
When I flash bios I take it down to 11 x 100fsb - just being careful I suppose but you hear the horror stories of badflash and you want to be extra careful
I'm happy to report that a repair operation brought my IE & Outlook back to life
No I was running everything 100% stock. I do that same thing. If I am loading the OS or flashing the bios the FSB goes back to 133 and the mult to 11!
I am at 11.5x180 right now but have not touched ram timings yet. Maybe I was pushing them too hard in the dual channel.
I am at 11.5x180 right now but have not touched ram timings yet. Maybe I was pushing them too hard in the dual channel.
Argh.....well I have now discovered that I have a bad module! I kept noticing that when I had both sticks of ram in I would get crashes and errors. When I took the one out, no problems. So I took the old one out. put the new one in and crash! Swithed and no problems. Darn it, gotta RMA this one!
Ahhh.... BadRamU - educational stuff there
Glad you found the trouble!
I have a problem keeping my Winfast TV2000XP Deluxe running right when overclocked.
The TV part works fine, it's the audio that cuts out.
My normal Audio still works fine, I test by playing a system sound, then playing an mp3 and it's all good.
I can only get the TV audio back by restarting Windows.
I just tried to update the drivers but the update says it Cannot do it.
Maybe I need to load the latest DirectX.
Glad you found the trouble!
I have a problem keeping my Winfast TV2000XP Deluxe running right when overclocked.
The TV part works fine, it's the audio that cuts out.
My normal Audio still works fine, I test by playing a system sound, then playing an mp3 and it's all good.
I can only get the TV audio back by restarting Windows.
I just tried to update the drivers but the update says it Cannot do it.
Maybe I need to load the latest DirectX.
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lol ,maybe you got a bad stick Smokeball
Wiz
Looks like your times have come into line
Remind me of your cpu & FSB speeds again?
,maybe you got a bad stick SmokeballWiz
Looks like your times have come into line
Remind me of your cpu & FSB speeds again?
I'm at 11.5 x 177 2T-2-2-6 currently - any higher and the audio part of my tvtuner dies.
I can now pass prime95 up to 180fsb but anything above 177 kills the audio on the Winfast TV2000xp Deluxe card after a few minutes of playing.
I installed the latest drivers, DirectX9.0a and the latest Winfast application but it's no help.
Maybe I need a cooler on the tvcard?
I can now pass prime95 up to 180fsb but anything above 177 kills the audio on the Winfast TV2000xp Deluxe card after a few minutes of playing.
I installed the latest drivers, DirectX9.0a and the latest Winfast application but it's no help.
Maybe I need a cooler on the tvcard?
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