A64 vs Opteron: Dual-Core

[lopri]

http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lol6fd.jpg

Hope this will reduce the number of threads asking "which is better?"

 

[unprecedented]

LMAO i think i will

 

[JustStarting]

conclusive results

 

[TSS]

sorry but no. only thing that proves is that a ~$800 X2 (4800+) can perform as well as a ~$300 dollar opteron (165).

which puts it more in favor of the opteron.

but it can be argued that the X2 isnt atleast as good.

even if you'd pull that off with a 3800+ X2 theres the cache thing.

only thing that would be even would be a X2 4400+ compared to a similar priced opteron (so the 170 or 175).

not bad OC's + scores tho.

 

[TheRyuu]

Originally posted by: TSS
sorry but no. only thing that proves is that a ~$800 X2 (4800+) can perform as well as a ~$300 dollar opteron (165).

which puts it more in favor of the opteron.

but it can be argued that the X2 isnt atleast as good.

even if you'd pull that off with a 3800+ X2 theres the cache thing.

only thing that would be even would be a X2 4400+ compared to a similar priced opteron (so the 170 or 175).

not bad OC's + scores tho.

Thats what he's proving, that it's worth it to buy the $300 165 opposed to the 4800+...right?

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

279x10 and 310x9.

Good work though. :thumbsup:

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
279x10 and 310x9.

Yes but the X2 4800+ is also using lower timings on memory so 310 with opteron doesnt give it any advantage. Good point though, Opty >>>> X2 any day.

 

[NewBlackDak]

Shouldn't the mulit, fsb, and memory timings be exactly the same to prove anything?

This shows nothing, but what everyone has already said. Spend $300 to get the same you can from $800.

 

[imhungry]

Basically...get the Opteron.

Is that a 7800GTX 512mb ? ;o

 

[themusgrat]

Setting the tras to 8 like the other will only help the 165 a bit. Save money and get a better processor.

 

[lopri]

Sigh.. These two are different systems. The comparison didn't mean to be an exact science nor did I try to get the max overclock. I just used the ClockGen to match the clock. Then dividers for memory. Memory timings have no affect here. (except possibly on Super PI) And on Opteron rig actually better RAM was used. (TCCD) The point is, given same clock/cache size, A64 and Opteron will perform equally on day-to-day use.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Lopri:

Would you might posting a screenshot of the motherboard tab in CPU-Z? Also, do you have any problem with your A8N-SLI Premium occasionally not booting up if the HTT is around 300?

 

[lopri]

Here it is.
http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpuz1vx.jpg

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Thanks.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: lopri
The point is, given same clock/cache size, A64 and Opteron will perform equally on day-to-day use.

Isn't that obvious? Because Optreron, FX and A64 are all identical in architecture.

 

[EagleEye]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

Originally posted by: lopri
The point is, given same clock/cache size, A64 and Opteron will perform equally on day-to-day use.

Isn't that obvious? Because Optreron, FX and A64 are all identical in architecture.

You would be suprised how many people don't like to think that way.

 

[KIAman]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

Originally posted by: lopri
The point is, given same clock/cache size, A64 and Opteron will perform equally on day-to-day use.

Isn't that obvious? Because Optreron, FX and A64 are all identical in architecture.

Obviously not obvious enough for many people on this board. Look at how many "X2 or Opteron" thread here are lately.

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
Lopri:

Would you might posting a screenshot of the motherboard tab in CPU-Z? Also, do you have any problem with your A8N-SLI Premium occasionally not booting up if the HTT is around 300?

I think my ASUS board's limit is somewhere around HTT 310. Also x10 multi makes playing with memory easy, so I have it at that. I've tried 300+ HTT, but didn't really test or use it on a regular basis. But HTT 280 is quite comfortable.

 

[Triggerhappy007]

lopri, can you test again with the same memory settings?

 

[lopri]

Will do tomorrow. (Too busy today!)

 

[Elfear]

Thanks for results lopri. Hopefully all the naysayers/doubters will check out your results.

 

[TriggerHappy101]

Yes, buy how do the lower opterons perform in comparision with an AMD 64 3700+? (Both being overclocked but still stable.)

How much of a price difference will you see? Im not familair with the Opteron line and im looking to buy a CPU for my gaming rig. I will be using the EPoX nForce4 Ultra (939) EP-9NPA+Ultra mobo.

I am currently looking at the AMD 64 3700+ (210 bucks) for my CPU but latley all of this chatter about the Opteron is making me double guess myself.

Also: WHAT kind of cooling do you use on the proccessors? Stock cooling? Some 70 dollar super duper fan? Water cooling?

Thanks

 

[Alexstarfire]

Well, the only thing that matters, to me and probably to others, is the only thing that's not in the screen and that's game benchmarks. You got 3DMark05, but unless your running a high end SLI or Crossfire setup you aren't going to notice too much with the CPU. THe timings and all that matter a little bit, but only a little. It sure is looking in the favor of the Opteron since it costs less.

 

[TriggerHappy101]

Yeah im aware that the GPU is much more important than the CPU, but i want to get as much bang for the buck out of my CPU and delay my next upgrade as long as possible.

 

[chinkgai]

nice comparo lopri

we have nearly the same setup, cept u got an extra vid card and the single card that i got is an ati

what's your 4800+ top out at prime stable?