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A threat greater than terrorism which will probably be ignored

They had a great Discovery channel show dedicated to this volcano several years ago, really going into depth and explaining the geology of this volcano and how it would affect us on the East coast... not pretty
 
Originally posted by: lozina
They had a great Discovery channel show dedicated to this volcano several years ago, really going into depth and explaining the geology of this volcano and how it would affect us on the East coast... not pretty

I think I saw that, not pretty indeed
 
Not saying that it could not happen tomorrow but:

Scientist Bill McGuire told a news conference on natural disasters on Monday that sometime in the next few thousand years the western flank of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the Canary Island of La Palma will collapse, sending walls of water 100 meters high racing across the Atlantic.


Also I think monitoring would be a good idea in general, but 7 to 10 hours is not enough time to evacuate the entire EAST COAST. So unless the monitoring could give a few days notice there is not much you can do about it. Just think of how long it takes people to evacuate when there is a hurricane.
 
You also will note that eruptions occur every 25 to 200 years and the last was in 1949. Slippage has begun.

Monitoring Mt. St. Helens has given accurate predictions regarding eruptions. It should be the same here. If an impending major eruption is detected then plans already formulated (which seem to be missing so far) could be put into effect.

I believe the "few thousand year" reference is best, otherwise the author wouldn't be worring so much.
 
That's something that I've been worrying about after seeing the South Asian tsunami -- can a tsunami hit the eastern US (Maryland)? I kind of live near the water.
 
Originally posted by: StormRider
That's something that I've been worrying about after seeing the South Asian tsunami -- can a tsunami hit the eastern US (Maryland)? I kind of live near the water.

In this particular scenario, the chances that you and everything you know would be gone are high.
 
7 to 10 hours is plenty of time to get people off of the beaches, out of the streets, and into higher floor buildings and higher ground...we aren't talking about the waves that hit in the movie "Deep Impact", we are talking about waves that would be very similar to the waves from the earthquake in the Indian Ocean a few days ago
 
What we need to do is launch a pre-emptive strike agains this terrorist volcano. If we nuke it now we might be able to prevent its fascist lavas from reaching our land.
 
It is a vast conspiracy by the right to wipe out the blue populations!

On a more serious note we do what we can. There is a threat much larger than a volcano but we dont spend much money on it. Astroids, Comets, or Meteors can wipe out the entire planet.

I mean if you want to get crazy and try to blame the US for something.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
It is a vast conspiracy by the right to wipe out the blue populations!

On a more serious note we do what we can. There is a threat much larger than a volcano but we dont spend much money on it. Astroids, Comets, or Meteors can wipe out the entire planet.

I mean if you want to get crazy and try to blame the US for something.

So you are for pulling out of Iraq since it poses a lower potential danger than this, and you write off something so easily monitored as worthless. OK.

First we aren't doing what we can do. That is the entire point of the article.

Second. WE ARE doing something about asteroids and such. We have an ongoing project to catalog.

Third, maybe we can't kill it, and that makes it "unsexy" to some, but we can buy more time to evacuate people from potentially affected areas.

Fourth, as a nation affected by such an event we are idiots to ignore it. Blame the US? Well if the shoe fits, wear it. Guess what? If you let your kids play in traffic, and they get run over I'd blame you too. When (not if) this happens and we have millions of deaths more than necessary then we HAVE earned the destruction by sheer idiocy.

Maybe it would be helpful for people to DO something than play games with it.
 
This sounds like the next Memorial Day Hollywood movie

Tsunami: written by Maddogchen

Opening scene: scientists (3 old people, one new guy, one hottie) observing the volcano discover rise in pressure, try to warn everybody, no one listens. Running around, new guy pathetic attempt to hit on hottie, strike 1.

Volcano blows, cue CGI effects. Canarie islands gets wiped out. Cue interest by US military, then word gets to US president. Cabinet meeting, meeting with scientists, evacuation of entire East Coast begins, not enough time, more time must be bought. Cue family(2 parents 3 small children including baby) getting order to evacuate.
Conclusion: set off a nuclear device in the Atlantic Ocean ahead of the wave front to dull the effects.

After debate only one location set for nuclear device to blunt waves, but there are problems:
1. nuclear device will cause a small 10-20 ft Tsunami that will kill some people. Cue Tsunami hitting North Africa and wiping everyone out.
2. US submarine in area about to nuke, they can't get out in time. Cue sad scene with Mr. President telling submariners "you are making a great sacrifice" Captain breaks out his cigars and orders a last ditch effort to get out of the blast zone.

Device set up, preparations set, scientists sent to observe. Running around, new guy pathetic attempt to hit on hottie, strike 2. Nuke goes off. Scene at sub getting hit by blast, darkness, shouting, switch to CGI of impact against incoming big wave, switch to family stuck trying to get out of East Coast. 10-20 ft Tsunami comes rushing in. Lots of deaths still. Bravery of family saving each other.

Real Tsunami finally hits, but much smaller now. Not much damage. Scientists find missing submarine. Attempt rescue operation. Rescue operation success. new guy pathetic attempt to hit on hottie, Home Run! The End.

okay...maybe my version is made for TV 🙂
 
Terrorists can kill hundreds of thousands of not millions by smuggling nuclear weapons into cities, how is this greater than terrorism? Both are equal and both deserve attention.
 
So you are for pulling out of Iraq since it poses a lower potential danger than this, and you write off something so easily monitored as worthless. OK.

It is fun putting words into other peoples mouth isnt it? It keeps you from using your brain.
If you think not killing terrorists has lower potential risk than a Volcano that may erupt in 2000 years. Your opinion is hilarious.

First we aren't doing what we can do. That is the entire point of the article.

If you feel so strongly about it then donate some money to the cause.

Second. WE ARE doing something about asteroids and such. We have an ongoing project to catalog.

rotflmao at tops they can scan and track 1% of the objects floating around out there. I am surprised you arent out all worried about that.

Third, maybe we can't kill it, and that makes it "unsexy" to some, but we can buy more time to evacuate people from potentially affected areas.

I think it would be a good idea to have a warning system. But to think we need to pull out of iraq and cancel the war on terror to do it is foolish thinking.

Maybe it would be helpful for people to DO something than play games with it.

Who said anybody is playing games?
 
Originally posted by: maddogchen
This sounds like the next Memorial Day Hollywood movie

Tsunami: written by Maddogchen

Opening scene: scientists (3 old people, one new guy, one hottie) observing the volcano discover rise in pressure, try to warn everybody, no one listens. Running around, new guy pathetic attempt to hit on hottie, strike 1.

Volcano blows, cue CGI effects. Canarie islands gets wiped out. Cue interest by US military, then word gets to US president. Cabinet meeting, meeting with scientists, evacuation of entire East Coast begins, not enough time, more time must be bought. Cue family(2 parents 3 small children including baby) getting order to evacuate.
Conclusion: set off a nuclear device in the Atlantic Ocean ahead of the wave front to dull the effects.

After debate only one location set for nuclear device to blunt waves, but there are problems:
1. nuclear device will cause a small 10-20 ft Tsunami that will kill some people. Cue Tsunami hitting North Africa and wiping everyone out.
2. US submarine in area about to nuke, they can't get out in time. Cue sad scene with Mr. President telling submariners "you are making a great sacrifice" Captain breaks out his cigars and orders a last ditch effort to get out of the blast zone.

Device set up, preparations set, scientists sent to observe. Running around, new guy pathetic attempt to hit on hottie, strike 2. Nuke goes off. Scene at sub getting hit by blast, darkness, shouting, switch to CGI of impact against incoming big wave, switch to family stuck trying to get out of East Coast. 10-20 ft Tsunami comes rushing in. Lots of deaths still. Bravery of family saving each other.

Real Tsunami finally hits, but much smaller now. Not much damage. Scientists find missing submarine. Attempt rescue operation. Rescue operation success. new guy pathetic attempt to hit on hottie, Home Run! The End.

okay...maybe my version is made for TV 🙂

So lemme guess, you've got a new job at some firm where there's a real hottie you want to hook up with? 😉
 
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: maddogchen
This sounds like the next Memorial Day Hollywood movie

Tsunami: written by Maddogchen

Opening scene: scientists (3 old people, one new guy, one hottie) observing the volcano discover rise in pressure, try to warn everybody, no one listens. Running around, new guy pathetic attempt to hit on hottie, strike 1.

Volcano blows, cue CGI effects. Canarie islands gets wiped out. Cue interest by US military, then word gets to US president. Cabinet meeting, meeting with scientists, evacuation of entire East Coast begins, not enough time, more time must be bought. Cue family(2 parents 3 small children including baby) getting order to evacuate.
Conclusion: set off a nuclear device in the Atlantic Ocean ahead of the wave front to dull the effects.

After debate only one location set for nuclear device to blunt waves, but there are problems:
1. nuclear device will cause a small 10-20 ft Tsunami that will kill some people. Cue Tsunami hitting North Africa and wiping everyone out.
2. US submarine in area about to nuke, they can't get out in time. Cue sad scene with Mr. President telling submariners "you are making a great sacrifice" Captain breaks out his cigars and orders a last ditch effort to get out of the blast zone.

Device set up, preparations set, scientists sent to observe. Running around, new guy pathetic attempt to hit on hottie, strike 2. Nuke goes off. Scene at sub getting hit by blast, darkness, shouting, switch to CGI of impact against incoming big wave, switch to family stuck trying to get out of East Coast. 10-20 ft Tsunami comes rushing in. Lots of deaths still. Bravery of family saving each other.

Real Tsunami finally hits, but much smaller now. Not much damage. Scientists find missing submarine. Attempt rescue operation. Rescue operation success. new guy pathetic attempt to hit on hottie, Home Run! The End.

okay...maybe my version is made for TV 🙂

So lemme guess, you've got a new job at some firm where there's a real hottie you want to hook up with? 😉
no no no, its Hollywood. There's always a hot female scientist in these movies even though they really don't exist in real life. Hopefully they'll find a hot chick that can actually say the word nu·cle·ar 😉
 
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: maddogchen
This sounds like the next Memorial Day Hollywood movie

Tsunami: written by Maddogchen

Opening scene: scientists (3 old people, one new guy, one hottie) observing the volcano discover rise in pressure, try to warn everybody, no one listens. Running around, new guy pathetic attempt to hit on hottie, strike 1.

Volcano blows, cue CGI effects. Canarie islands gets wiped out. Cue interest by US military, then word gets to US president. Cabinet meeting, meeting with scientists, evacuation of entire East Coast begins, not enough time, more time must be bought. Cue family(2 parents 3 small children including baby) getting order to evacuate.
Conclusion: set off a nuclear device in the Atlantic Ocean ahead of the wave front to dull the effects.

After debate only one location set for nuclear device to blunt waves, but there are problems:
1. nuclear device will cause a small 10-20 ft Tsunami that will kill some people. Cue Tsunami hitting North Africa and wiping everyone out.
2. US submarine in area about to nuke, they can't get out in time. Cue sad scene with Mr. President telling submariners "you are making a great sacrifice" Captain breaks out his cigars and orders a last ditch effort to get out of the blast zone.

Device set up, preparations set, scientists sent to observe. Running around, new guy pathetic attempt to hit on hottie, strike 2. Nuke goes off. Scene at sub getting hit by blast, darkness, shouting, switch to CGI of impact against incoming big wave, switch to family stuck trying to get out of East Coast. 10-20 ft Tsunami comes rushing in. Lots of deaths still. Bravery of family saving each other.

Real Tsunami finally hits, but much smaller now. Not much damage. Scientists find missing submarine. Attempt rescue operation. Rescue operation success. new guy pathetic attempt to hit on hottie, Home Run! The End.

okay...maybe my version is made for TV 🙂

So lemme guess, you've got a new job at some firm where there's a real hottie you want to hook up with? 😉
no no no, its Hollywood. There's always a hot female scientist in these movies even though they really don't exist in real life. Hopefully they'll find a hot chick that can actually say the word nu·cle·ar 😉

Change "Newguy" to "Hottie 2" and we'll send it to Production! 😀
 
Originally posted by: NeoV
7 to 10 hours is plenty of time to get people off of the beaches, out of the streets, and into higher floor buildings and higher ground...we aren't talking about the waves that hit in the movie "Deep Impact", we are talking about waves that would be very similar to the waves from the earthquake in the Indian Ocean a few days ago
7 to 10 hours enough time? Only in theory. In reality, many would not hear about it or get out in time -- just wouldn't happen 100% smoothly and you should know that.

Think of the Outer Banks. One big traffic accident on any part ot the 17 mile long Chesapeake Bay Bridge and Tunnel and everyone would be piped. Want to talk about that endless two lane road out of the Florida Keys? Didn't think so.
 
7 to 10 hours enough time? Only in theory. In reality, many would not hear about it or get out in time -- just wouldn't happen 100% smoothly and you should know that.

5 hours is enough to walk 10-15 miles inland. Enough time for majority to reach safe ground, even without transportation.

Leon
 
Originally posted by: Leon
7 to 10 hours enough time? Only in theory. In reality, many would not hear about it or get out in time -- just wouldn't happen 100% smoothly and you should know that.

5 hours is enough to walk 10-15 miles inland. Enough time for majority to reach safe ground, even without transportation.

Leon
Yo, Leon, I guess if someone in your family in the car was aged or infirm, you'd just leave them behind and start walking, huh?

 
there are plenty of large hotels in the keys, all anyone would have to do, assuming we are talking about waves similar to the ones from last week, is get into those buildings and get up a few floors
 
Originally posted by: NeoV
there are plenty of large hotels in the keys, all anyone would have to do, assuming we are talking about waves similar to the ones from last week, is get into those buildings and get up a few floors
There is absolutely nowhere near enough upper floor space in Key West even to crowd in all the residents and touruists alike. Not even close.

 
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