A returning troll

[conjur]

What game? All I did was ask a simple question that requires very little thought for an answer but charrison deemed the question too hard for him, apparently, and resorted to BS tactics to avoid answering it.


As for the pullout, P&N thoughts and opinions are different from what goes on in Washington. Trying to frame the debate based upon the Republican resolution is a joke. Do I want to see an immediate withdrawal back to the U.S.? Sure. I'd love to see it. Will it happen that way? No. And I don't know of any Democrat, Republican, Independent, etc. that has gone on the record stating so. Even Murtha's statements have been GREATLY distorted by the GOP so they can frame the debate in a way that would seemingly be politically beneficial to them. That's the problem. The Republicans want to play games with the lives of our soldiers. This move is a slap in the face to the brave men and women dying at an average of three per day for the last two months.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: conjur
What game? All I did was ask a simple question that requires very little thought for an answer but charrison deemed the question too hard for him, apparently, and resorted to BS tactics to avoid answering it.


As for the pullout, P&N thoughts and opinions are different from what goes on in Washington. Trying to frame the debate based upon the Republican resolution is a joke. Do I want to see an immediate withdrawal back to the U.S.? Sure. I'd love to see it. Will it happen that way? No. And I don't know of any Democrat, Republican, Independent, etc. that has gone on the record stating so. Even Murtha's statements have been GREATLY distorted by the GOP so they can frame the debate in a way that would seemingly be politically beneficial to them. That's the problem. The Republicans want to play games with the lives of our soldiers. This move is a slap in the face to the brave men and women dying at an average of three per day for the last two months.

Hist statements were quite defeatest.

But as far as the left wanting the troops home now....

linkage

This is been the mantra of the left for quite some time.

 

[conjur]

Nice try.

Name me the Dems (and back it up with proof) that want an IMMEDIATE PULLOUT of all troops back to the U.S. (which I assume this resolution means). And I mean IMMEDIATE...not a gradual withdrawal.

Shouldn't be hard. You *do* know how to search the Congressional Record, don't you?


BTW, watch the Republicans try to disavow this stunt was a resolution introduced by them:
http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/buyernov1805wrongresolution.wmv

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: conjur
Nice try.

Name me the Dems (and back it up with proof) that want an IMMEDIATE PULLOUT of all troops back to the U.S. (which I assume this resolution means). And I mean IMMEDIATE...not a gradual withdrawal.

Shouldn't be hard. You *do* know how to search the Congressional Record, don't you?


BTW, watch the Republicans try to disavow this stunt was a resolution introduced by them:
http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/buyernov1805wrongresolution.wmv

on the first page of the search cynthia mckinnie...

then there is dennis kucinich..this is not a hard game conjur....

 

[conjur]

Cynthia McKinney wasn't a member of Congress when she gave that speech. Although, it's likely that helped her get re-elected.

As for Kucinich, care to do what I asked? Provide proof of Dems wanting troops home (to American, not redeployed just outside Iraq as Murtha stated)?

 

[eits]

whatever squashes the republicans and gets america back on her feet and on the right track is a plus..... this vote might help do that

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: raildogg
Yeah lets pull out and declare total defeat and admit defeat to the Islamists everywhere. I'm sure many would like to see that.

Many of the libbies in here would, especially the America haters.

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[conjur]

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/murthanov1805floorspeech.wmv
http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/murthanov1805part2.wmv
http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/murthanov1805part3.wmv
http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/murthanov1805partfour.wmv
http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/murthapart5nov1805.wmv

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/mcgovernmurthanotafraidofyounov1805.wmv
http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/waxmanrepublicanstuntnov1805.wmv (McGovern and Waxman go on the record that no Dem leader has called for an immediate withdrawal that does not provide for the safety of U.S. troops)
http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/kucinichnov18republicanstunt.wmv (Where are the WMDs? Where's Osama bin Laden? What did Iraq have to do with 9/11?)

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/countdownhellbreaksloosenov1805.wmv

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/schmidtrepublicanstuntnov1805.wmv :roll:

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/buyernov1805wrongresolution.wmv

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/duncanhunternov1805.wmv (Tierney rips the Republicans to shreds!!)


And, for grins, Rep. Kingston proves himself the moran that he apparently is by invoking the name of "Scoop" Jackson
http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/kingstonnov1805.wmv

Some info on "Scoop" Jackson
http://www.conjur.com/blog/2005/11/17/w...his-administration-hiding-info-on-him/

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: conjur
It's a trap and setup by the GOP. $20 their version of the Murtha bill will resemble nothing like what Murtha stated yesterday.


Just more dirty politics from the GOP.


But, if the bill is written well (HA!...fat chance), this is a chance for the Dems to sh*t or get off the pot.

Oh, come the fvck off it already. ALL politics that involve DEMOCRATS and REPUBLICANS are "Dirty politics". If you're LUCKY you'll find maybe 5 good, honest Democrats and 5 good, honest Republicans in the WHOLE of congress. The rest of them on BOTH sides of the fence are a bunch of con artists. What's sad is that so many people are so incredibly STUPID that they actually *believe* Democrats or Republicans give a rat's ass about them.

The Democratic party is 100% as corrupt as the Republican party. Only a fool or a liar says otherwise.

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: conjur
And here's what Jean Schmidt thinks of Rep. Murtha:

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/schmidtrepublicanstuntnov1805.wmv



What a stupid, ignorant, and callous b*tch. I wonder how long she served and in what branch. Amazing she beat out Hackett. Then again, knowing the corruption in the Ohio election system, it's not surprising.

The message wasn't from her, dumbass, it was from a retired Marine Colonel.

Incidentally, the corruption in the Ohio election system doesn't hold a *candle* to the corruption in the California election system.

Jason

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: conjur
And here's what Jean Schmidt thinks of Rep. Murtha:

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/schmidtrepublicanstuntnov1805.wmv



What a stupid, ignorant, and callous b*tch. I wonder how long she served and in what branch. Amazing she beat out Hackett. Then again, knowing the corruption in the Ohio election system, it's not surprising.

The message wasn't from her, dumbass, it was from a retired Marine Colonel.

Incidentally, the corruption in the Ohio election system doesn't hold a *candle* to the corruption in the California election system.

Jason

Hmm...and here I thought the mods were cracking down on the personal attacks and insults.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: ntdz
This bill is politically genius by the Republicans.

i'm sure their next bill will be to
endorse mom & apple pie & then
dare the democrats to oppose it:roll:

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: conjur
And here's what Jean Schmidt thinks of Rep. Murtha:

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/schmidtrepublicanstuntnov1805.wmv



What a stupid, ignorant, and callous b*tch. I wonder how long she served and in what branch. Amazing she beat out Hackett. Then again, knowing the corruption in the Ohio election system, it's not surprising.

The message wasn't from her, dumbass, it was from a retired Marine Colonel.

Incidentally, the corruption in the Ohio election system doesn't hold a *candle* to the corruption in the California election system.

Jason

Hmm...and here I thought the mods were cracking down on the personal attacks and insults.

Translation: I haven't anything constructive to add, nor an argument against, therefore I'll derail the whole discussion! Hi there, I'm Conjur!

Jason

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: conjur
And here's what Jean Schmidt thinks of Rep. Murtha:

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/schmidtrepublicanstuntnov1805.wmv



What a stupid, ignorant, and callous b*tch. I wonder how long she served and in what branch. Amazing she beat out Hackett. Then again, knowing the corruption in the Ohio election system, it's not surprising.

The message wasn't from her, dumbass, it was from a retired Marine Colonel.

Incidentally, the corruption in the Ohio election system doesn't hold a *candle* to the corruption in the California election system.

Jason

Hmm...and here I thought the mods were cracking down on the personal attacks and insults.

Read my sig Conjur!

 

[ShadesOfGrey]

Originally posted by: conjur
Nice try.

Name me the Dems (and back it up with proof) that want an IMMEDIATE PULLOUT of all troops back to the U.S. (which I assume this resolution means). And I mean IMMEDIATE...not a gradual withdrawal.

Shouldn't be hard. You *do* know how to search the Congressional Record, don't you?


BTW, watch the Republicans try to disavow this stunt was a resolution introduced by them:
http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/buyernov1805wrongresolution.wmv

Well, there are atleast 3 as shown by last night's vote. Murtha is included also because he stated "the United States will immediately redeploy" during his press conference. He also said this: "To immediately redeploy U.S. troops consistent with the safety of U.S. forces." And the cherry on top is this statement at the end of his press conference: "It is time to bring them home."
I'm not sure what you think the different between "immediate pullout" and "immediate redeploy" is, but there is no practical or logical difference.

So conjur, care to play apologist for those who seek an "immediate" cut and run policy? There are atleast 4.